The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:36 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Chi Chi also never displayed anything special so what are you basing her victory on when Yamcha seems clearly superior?
Yamcha being a big dork. Chichi rages at him like a Fury, Yamcha goes "oh lawd dez wimmen skreemn at meh" and Chichi suplexes him off the side.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:48 am

Kid Buu wrote:23rd Budokai Chichi runs the gauntlet, how far does she get?

1.) 21st Budokai Yamcha
2.) 22nd Budokai Yamcha
3.) 23rd Budokai Yamcha
I'm pretty sure she can beat the first two but Yamcha easily takes the last one. He already beat Chi Chi so the like Kid Buu said, the suck rule doesn't apply.
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Post by Rocketman » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:51 am

Never underestimate the power of Yamcha's sucking.

He'll suck the chrome off a car bumper.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:54 am

Rocketman wrote:Never underestimate the power of Yamcha's sucking.

He'll suck the chrome off a car bumper.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:59 am

Yamcha sucking was known long before TFS started their jank.


Yamcha can't beat anybody with a name, and ChiChi has a name, so ChiChi wins.
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Post by Kid Buu » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:10 am

Rocketman wrote:Yamcha sucking was known long before TFS started their jank.


Yamcha can't beat anybody with a name, and ChiChi has a name, so ChiChi wins.
Can Chichi beat anybody with a name?

1.) Chichi Vs Yamcha - Loss
2.) Chichi Vs Goku - Loss
3.) Chichi Vs Super Buu - Loss
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Post by Rocketman » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:16 am

Stop being a dinosaur racist. Jesus, it's like I don't even know you any more.



(Also she smacked Goku off Nimbus, so ha-ha!)
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Post by Kid Buu » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:20 am

Rocketman wrote:Stop being a dinosaur racist. Jesus, it's like I don't even know you any more.



(Also she smacked Goku off Nimbus, so ha-ha!)
Did the T-Rex have a name?

And Rocketmen we still cool I was just wondering where people generally place Chichi's 23rd Power Level compared to the Z Senshi.
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Post by Rocketman » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:34 am

Alright, serious time with serious face.

ChiChi is weaker than Yamcha, but not by enough for stomp. I think she's strong enough and fast enough to surprise him and take a victory.

Yamcha doesn't start wigging out until after his death against the Saibaman, so I also think he trained after the 23rd Budokai, making the gap even less.
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Post by Kid Buu » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:56 am

I think they'd be close in powers by the 23rd Budokai. I think it'd probably go either way unless Yamcha pulls out the Sodikan.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super Vegetto » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:48 am

SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Post Z sword) vs Good Boo

LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:23 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:BoG Vegeta (not counting apparent rage boost) VS Kid Buu.
Vegeta looses. But if he had the rage boost, and had done what he did to Beers, then maybe he would destroy Boo.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Ok then, BOG Goku (No SSJG) VS Super Janemba.
Goku hasn't improved significantly IMO, so he looses again.
TheGmGoken wrote:Nappa vs Ebifurya

Kishime vs Krillin and Gohan(Namek Arc but no power hidden powers unlocked)
Nappa destroys Ebifurya, and Kuririn can easily destroy Kishime by himself.
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Garlic?

Tullece?

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KentalSSJ6 wrote:Super Janemba VS Super Buu (no absorption)
Boo destroys Janenba.
TheGmGoken wrote:Tullece vs Cooler's Version of Ginyu Force, The Ginyu Force, and Vegeta(When he did a power struggle with Freeza before Freeza transformed)
Tullece gets stomped in an instant.
Kid Buu wrote:23rd Budokai Chichi runs the gauntlet, how far does she get?

1.) 21st Budokai Yamcha
2.) 22nd Budokai Yamcha
3.) 23rd Budokai Yamcha
Chichi wins first 2 fights, but looses in the 3rd one.
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Yamcha most likely got weaker since the Budokai.
Why?
Super Vegetto wrote:SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Post Z sword) vs Good Boo

LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan
Gohan gets stomped in both fights. Broli is too strong for any SS2 IMO, and as for post Z-Sword Gohan, he only noticed an increase in his arm strength, and Boo is much stronger than SS2 Gohan, so Gohan still can't do anything.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by Kid Buu » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:22 am

Gohan loses to Broly and Buu, IMO.

22nd Budokai Tenshinan (Can't use Ki) Vs. 22nd Budokai Yajirobe (Can't use sword)
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Post by Super Vegetto » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:50 am

Kid Buu wrote:Gohan loses to Broly and Buu, IMO.

22nd Budokai Tenshinan (Can't use Ki) Vs. 22nd Budokai Yajirobe (Can't use sword)
You mean can't use Ki blasts ?



SSJ2 Goku (Boo saga) vs SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Boo saga-Post Z sword).
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:12 am

Super Vegetto wrote:SSJ2 Goku (Boo saga) vs SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Boo saga-Post Z sword).
Goku wins. I don't see Gohan much stronger than before the Z-Sword.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:19 am

Rocketman wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Chi Chi also never displayed anything special so what are you basing her victory on when Yamcha seems clearly superior?
Yamcha being a big dork. Chichi rages at him like a Fury, Yamcha goes "oh lawd dez wimmen skreemn at meh" and Chichi suplexes him off the side.
I'm sure the question is whether or not she'd win in an actual fight. I'm sure she'd use shenanigans to knock him out of the ring, but in a real fight, Yamcha has this.
Super Vegetto wrote:SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Post Z sword) vs Good Boo

LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan
Good Buu beats Gohan and Gohan beats Broly.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:31 pm

Super Vegetto wrote:SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Post Z sword) vs Good Boo

LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan

SSJ2 Goku (Boo saga) vs SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Boo saga-Post Z sword)
Good Boo easily wins

Broly wins some difficulty.

Gohan could win but his rustiness may just give Goku the win.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:43 pm

Good Buu absolutely demolishes Gohan.

Gohan handily beats Broly

Gohan beats Goku without much, if any, trouble.
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Post by ZombieVito » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:52 pm

Gohan post z-sword was implied to be close to Fat Buu. He one shots Goku like nothing.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:53 pm

Kid Buu wrote:23rd Budokai Chichi runs the gauntlet, how far does she get?

1.) 21st Budokai Yamcha
2.) 22nd Budokai Yamcha
3.) 23rd Budokai Yamcha
Chi-Chi easily beats the first two whereas 23rd Budokai Yamcha has a advantage at first but Chi-Chi is able to hold her own and they take a break but Chi-Chi unknowingly eats Super Soba and smashes Yamcha when break is over.
Super Vegetto wrote:SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Post Z sword) vs Good Boo

LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan

SSJ2 Goku (Boo saga) vs SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Boo saga-Post Z sword)
1. Good Boo

2. LSSJ Broly

3. SSJ2 Teen Gohan, with some difficulty due to getting rusty.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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