Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

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Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by VegettoEX » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:33 pm

Episode #0203 (download MP3) (rss feed)
62:33; 64 kbps, mono; 28.6 MB

Episode #0203! VegettoEX, Meri, and Julian cover the biggest news stories from 2009. So many curve balls were thrown our way this year, and checking in on our predictions from last year could not be any more humiliating. We also cover our Top 5 stories of the entire last decade, and get your thoughts, as well! Referenced sites:
Go ahead and grab it. Big thanks to godofchaos for hosting the never-thought-we'd-get-there *two-hundred-three* episodes, now.

Be sure to check out the supplemental new "Feature" page to go along with the episode! Listen to the show first so you don't spoil it all, though :D

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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:43 pm

Oh wow, will KanzenshuuEX come to fruition?

It'd nice to hear y'all back, it's been a long while!!

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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by SHINOBI-03 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:23 am

My predictions for the year 2010:
  • - More Viz delays.
  • - FUNimation will at least announce and release three more Dragon Box sets.
  • - Dragon Ball DS 2 will be announced for North America, but will exclude the NES game from it, or replace it with the old Dragon Power version.
  • - A Sequel for Attack of the Saiyans will be announced.
  • - Even more Viz delays, and VegettoEX will be forced to buy the single volumes or borrow them from someone. :mrgreen:
  • - FUNimation will announce Dragon Box the Movies.
  • - A movie with Super Saiyan 3 Broli will be announced and Hujio's nightmare will come true. :mrgreen:
  • - Viz will cancel the VizBig release and replace it with the Kanzenban release.
  • - 4Kids will buy Dragon Ball from FUNimation as a payback for taking One Piece from them. :lol:
  • - Team Four Star will finaly be able to start Season 2 of DBZ Abridged after several delays. :mrgreen:
  • - FUNimation will release the Jump Special.
  • - FUNimation will release Dragon Ball Kai for Bluray, but it'll be in 16:9 aspect ratio instead of 4:3.
  • - Yamcha's episode will be delayed again.
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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by Dogasu » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:09 am

So I guess you guys haven't heard the rumblings about Kai ending at Episode 050 and the new Digimon series taking over its 9:00 timeslot?

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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by Chuquita » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:12 am

I recall that being discussed in one of the Kai threads, but if Kai does not end at 50, I think Digimon won't reclaim its old slot the way Kai didn't reclaim Z's old evening slot. Plus Kai's ratings have been doing really well and Toei really likes partnering One Piece and Dragon Ball together. Though, if Kai does end at episode 50, I could see that happening.

My predictions:
-New animated Dragon Ball movie by Toei is announced (The plot will take place either during Z or post-Z), but won't premiere until either March or December of 2011. I choose these two months because that tends to be the pattern with Toei's One Piece movies and should hold true for Dragon Ball. It's either the winter holidays, or over spring break in Japan. Depending on the plot, the Kai label may be used.
-Kai will cover all of the manga arcs. Garlic Jr arc and the Ano-yo Tournament arc and will be skipped. The Great Saiyaman arc will be greatly reduced. We will lose the "Goku and Piccolo learn to Drive" episode and I'll miss it.
-New Dragon Box release every 3 months until Funi completes it. DBox the Movies announced for the 2010 holiday season.
-Sequel to the Kai DS game.
-DB DS 2 will have the NES game still intact and unlike its predecessor, retain the original Japanese voices as they did with the Kai DS game.
-More VizBig delays, but they will finish this release (eventually).
-Jump Special released by Funi in the 4th Quarter.
-Something will be announced concerning the sequel to the live action movie's 2011 IMDB listing. Either FOX will come out and say "No we will not be moving forward on this project" and pull the listing from the site or maybe they'll say something else. I'm kind of betting on the former at this point. I just can't see Chatku returning considering how little money they made.
-TFS will get halfway through Season 2/the Freeza arc by the end of the year.

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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by penguintruth » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:19 am

My 2010 predictions:

- Funimation will license Dragon Ball Kai for DVD and Blu-Ray; they will begin working on a new English dub, which will HOPEFULLY be better than theier previous DBZ dubs

- A sequel for Attack of the Saiyans will be announced; it will cover finding Kami's spaceship until the end of the Freeza battle, and Vegeta will be a playable character

- Funimation will release the rest, or at least most of, the Dragon Boxes this year (though it may continue into next year)

- Dragon Ball Kai will continue, but may take a break after Freeza; the same four Yamamoto tracks will continue to dominate the soundtrack for some time

- Funimation will release the DBZ Jump Special, perhaps packaged with the One Piece one. I can't imagine somebody purchasing a DVD with just a single short little special on it.

- An album of DBZ classics sung by Aya Hirano will be released

- DBZ Abridged will do the Trunks Special

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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by The Time Traveller » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:15 am

My hope, not predictions, will be for the coming decade since there's no way we'd get them all in one year...

-Totally redone translation and what not for uncut English Kanzenban would be nice... As well as more Daizenshuu, Viz need to stop half assing stuff for Dragon Ball...

-Funimation could release Dr. Slump if they bothered going after it, they could either copy the Slump Boxes from Japan, which are like the Dragon Boxes and leave it sub only, or they could copy what they're doing with Shin-chan and Sgt. Frog.

-Would totally love Dragon Box movies done like the Japanese ordering (DB movie 1-3, DBZ 1-13, DB 10th anniversary movie) maybe as two separate boxes. Hopefully the Dragon Boxes will be coming out closer together. And hopefully we'll get 4 Dragon Ball Boxes, plus 1 complete GT box....

-I guess the online coloured version of the Dragon Ball manga could get a release, that would be swell...

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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by Herms » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:45 pm

On your "decade in review" page, you say in the kanzenban entry that:
The full date of "May 12" was given as the arrival of the jinzôningen, rather than "M__ 12"
However, I'm pretty sure that the date was always given as "May 12". I think you're getting that date confused with the one for the Cell Games, which was originally given as "M___ 17", but was changed to "May 26" for the kanzenban release, matching the Daizenshuu 7 timeline.

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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:01 pm

Herms wrote:On your "decade in review" page, you say in the kanzenban entry that:
The full date of "May 12" was given as the arrival of the jinzôningen, rather than "M__ 12"
However, I'm pretty sure that the date was always given as "May 12". I think you're getting that date confused with the one for the Cell Games, which was originally given as "M___ 17", but was changed to "May 26" for the kanzenban release, matching the Daizenshuu 7 timeline.
Gah, you're right! Thanks! I even looked in stuff while writing that and saw that it matched up so I must have been correct...! >.< Correcting...
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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by Shiyonasan » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:45 pm

There's another mistake I found in the "Decade in Review" page.

You put both of the ties as #3. Shouldn't the Kanzenban + New Ending be #4?

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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:35 pm

Shiyonasan wrote:You put both of the ties as #3. Shouldn't the Kanzenban + New Ending be #4?
No. They each had the third-most-amount of points, so they tie as #3. There can't be a #4, so the last one (Evolution) is #5.

I realize that the tie was confusing, but them be the final votes and I ain't a-changin' what we came out with!
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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by The Time Traveller » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:58 pm

Wouldn't that make Evolution number 4? It usually works that way...

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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:59 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:Wouldn't that make Evolution number 4?
Nope. It was the fifth item with the most amount of points. It placed below number one, number two, and both of the number threes. That's still four items it was below, and thus it is number five.

This is how these kinds of things work, folks :).
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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by Shiyonasan » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:30 pm

Oh, I get it now! I don't know why, but my mind processed the Kanzenban and New Ending as two separate things. I didn't get why there was a tie for two different things at #3, and then another thing tied at #3 as well. It all makes sense now.

I've known about the way the rankings for things like that work for a long time. I just misunderstood it. :oops:

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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by LilKokuLink » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:46 pm

penguintruth wrote:My 2010 predictions:

- Funimation will license Dragon Ball Kai for DVD and Blu-Ray; they will begin working on a new English dub, which will HOPEFULLY be better than theier previous DBZ dubs
Yes I totally agree with you, maybe now that FUNimation has seen the controversy of their dubs they can actually dub Kai as accurate to the japanese version as possible. I wonder if Kai will air in the US, because if it does then it should in the UK too but one step at a time, eh? Great podcast episode, loved and totally agree with the Top#5 list. It's been an awesome decade and I am sure that Dragon Ball will go on for more years to come and hope the next decades is just as great! :)

I'm not too great with predictions but yes, I'll surely like to see Blu-Ray releases for Kai in the US/UK.

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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by SHINOBI-03 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:49 am

Anime News Network had an interview with FUNimation's Adam Sheehan and Lance Heiskell.

Will Daizenshuu EX get the interview any time sooner this year?

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Re: Episode #0203 (03 January 2010)

Post by fps_anth » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:49 pm

It wasn't easy, but I think I've decided on my personal top 5 events of the decade. I decided to create two lists, one dedicated to stuff impacting North America, the other dedicated to Japan (and, by extension, the rest of the world :mrgreen: ).

NORTH AMERICA:


5. Daizenshuu 1 released

I don't think anyone expected this to happen, so it was an extremely pleasant surprise. The only problem here is, due to the fact that it's not text heavy at all, most of the people who wanted it had already imported it by this point. If not for that, and the fact that Viz has seemingly stopped putting out the Daizenshuu ( :cry: ), it would be much higher on the list.

4. Emergence of video games


Besides Final Bout and a single NES game (I believe), North America had no Dragon Ball related video games until this decade. Now we have at least 20, some great, some crappy. Regardless, I think the games have had a pretty big impact on both the hardcore fans and the casual fans.

3. The Manga is released by Viz

Despite tons of controversy, Viz has provided us with all 42 volumes of the manga this decade. Or, 16 Dragon Ball volumes and 26 DBZ volumes.

2. The Anime is released on DVD

We got the show on DVD before Japan :lol:

Well, let me rephrase that. We got the show in acceptable quality, then in unacceptable quality, and now, in the quality we wanted all along. With the release of the Dragon Boxes in North America, it seems like FUNimation has finally stopped marketing Dragon Ball as the hip, cool thing they once did at the beginning of the decade. Ah, how far they've come over the past ten years!

1. Dragon Ball Z's Popularity in General

It's hard to argue against the following statement: Dragon Ball Z is the most popular anime to ever hit North America. It was popular when it aired, and it's popular today. I'm currently in grade 12, and my buddies legitimately love the show. They could name every villian, every plot point, every filler, and a bunch of them have even watched the Jump Anime Special. Of course, they'd complain that it was in Japanese, would never hit the audio button on their DVD remote, would never read the manga and wouldn't dare watch another anime, but damn it, they love their Dragon Ball Z cartoon :lol:

Japan


5. Resurgence of video games


The video games situation in Japan was a bit different than North America... they never really stopped over there. However, since Budokai's release, almost every DB game has shot to the top of the game sales chart over in Japan.

4. Dragon Ball Kai

I don't think anyone saw this coming. It's the show, with new music, re-recorded voice acting... but not reanimated. But there's filler cut out. And then there's some scenes re-animated, but it's more like re-tracing... UGH. Despite being confusing as all hell (and censored), Kai's ratings have been awesome and shows no signs of slowing down. It may seem low on the list, but I'll be honest, I'd happily erase Kai from the decade to keep the next three events...

3. The Jump Anime Special [NEW DRAGON BALL ANIMATION OMGWTF]

We never thought it would happen. But it did. This decade provided us with the first newly animated Dragon Ball material in over 10 years. As icing on the cake, we were able to view it online legally... with English subtitles! Hopefully this decade will provide us with a DVD and/or Blu Ray release of the special, and new animation as well!

2. The Release of the Kanzenban/Guidebooks, a new ending to Dragon Ball, and a resurgence of popularity in Japan

In 2002, the manga was re-released in Japan with color pages in-tact and a new ending. This started the humongous resurgence of Dragon Ball in Japan that we are still feeling the effects of today. Hopefully they come to North American within this decade, along with all the awesome guide books!

1. The Dragon Boxes [Japan gets a home release of the entire series]

I can't imagine anything else being number one. Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball GT and The Movies were remastered frame by frame into pristine quality for Japanese audiences in 2003, making their wait for the series on a home format well worth it.

Runner Ups: Cross Epoch, Dragon Ball Evolution.

It's been one hell of a decade!

Also, I don't quite understand this:
Let us begin right away by acknowledging that the current "decade" does not actually come to a close until the end of December 2010.
2000-2009 is a decade. The same way 1990-1999, 1980-1989 and 1900-1909 was a decade. I guess the only exception to the rule would be the years "1-9", as there was no year 0. But I get what you're saying Mike, stop making me think :lol:

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