Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

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Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by mystic trunks » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:28 pm

1) He is pink
2) In the dub he sounds like an f'n baby
3) He regenerates (like the villain in the saga before him)
4) He copies people's moves (like the villain in the saga before him. What happened to originality?)
5) Majin Buu makes it damn near impossible to tell how much stronger the Z fighters have gotten. Think about it - everyone kicked his ass from the very start. Vegeta kicked his ass, Goku kicked his ass, Gotenks kicked his ass, Gohan kicked his ass... but he could regenerate so it seems that he wasn't even that strong, it's just that he was made of gelatin and could bounce back from everything. The Buu saga is like watching flying Looney Toons battle it out.

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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:52 pm

Really? Because he's pink? Trunks, the character in your avatar, has purple hair. Does that make him any less of a character because he has a non-manly colour?
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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by mystic trunks » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:55 pm

Sarcasm. I thought that was fairly obvious...

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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by Savage68 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:56 pm

mystic trunks wrote:1) He is pink
2) In the dub he sounds like an f'n baby
3) He regenerates (like the villain in the saga before him)
4) He copies people's moves (like the villain in the saga before him. What happened to originality?)
5) Majin Buu makes it damn near impossible to tell how much stronger the Z fighters have gotten. Think about it - everyone kicked his ass from the very start. Vegeta kicked his ass, Goku kicked his ass, Gotenks kicked his ass, Gohan kicked his ass... but he could regenerate so it seems that he wasn't even that strong, it's just that he was made of gelatin and could bounce back from everything. The Buu saga is like watching flying Looney Toons battle it out.
1) Doesn't make him a bad villain.
2) See above.
3) Okay.
4) Okay.
5) No. We know just how strong they are.

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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by Xell » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:08 pm

I don't see how he wasn't a good villain. He did the obvious 'villainous' stuff such as killing everyone on earth, destroying planets and generally being threatening.

Also, to call him a bad villain because of how the dub portrayed him seems a bit petty.

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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by The Tori-bot » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:08 pm

mystic trunks wrote:3) He regenerates (like the villain in the saga before him)
So does Piccolo (Ma Junior). He was the main villian once. :P Although, it isn't really fair to take points off of Cell for it, since Piccolo is the reason he can regenerate.
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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by Savage68 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:10 pm

So does Piccolo (Ma Junior). He was the main villian once. :P Although, it isn't really fair to take points off of Cell for it, since Piccolo is the reason he can regenerate.
It's because Buu's re-generation is incredibly cheap compared to Cell's and Piccolo's. Theirs takes energy from them and is pretty limited.

Buu can re-generate from goddamn air.

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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by mystic trunks » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:23 pm

The Tori-bot wrote:
mystic trunks wrote:3) He regenerates (like the villain in the saga before him)
So does Piccolo (Ma Junior). He was the main villian once. :P Although, it isn't really fair to take points off of Cell for it, since Piccolo is the reason he can regenerate.
Since Cell has piccolo's cells it is understandable that he can regenerate. But why make the next villain have that same ability for no apparent reason? It just seems redundant.

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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by Kendamu » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:28 pm

Because Toriyama didn't seem to take the Buu arc too seriously. At least that's how it seems in the manga.

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Post by B » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:35 pm

mystic trunks wrote:1) He is pink
2) In the dub he sounds like an f'n baby
3) He regenerates (like the villain in the saga before him)
4) He copies people's moves (like the villain in the saga before him. What happened to originality?)
5) Majin Buu makes it damn near impossible to tell how much stronger the Z fighters have gotten. Think about it - everyone kicked his ass from the very start. Vegeta kicked his ass, Goku kicked his ass, Gotenks kicked his ass, Gohan kicked his ass... but he could regenerate so it seems that he wasn't even that strong, it's just that he was made of gelatin and could bounce back from everything. The Buu saga is like watching flying Looney Toons battle it out.
1) Lame answer. Good enough for why YOU don't like him; I think Nappa looks stupid, but for why he's bad in general? So what if he's pink?
2) Doubly lame.
3) Almost seems like we have a pausible complaint here. More depth would be nice. For now, it's a statement.
4) When was this a problem? The amount of time he used Kamehameha, Demon Ray, and Super Ghost Kamikaze probably ends up being less than ten minutes. The Buu arc was stretched out beyond belief in the anime, so I am being generous with that estimate. Still, it was never a real gimmick with Buu. The majority of the time, he was using his own strange style of fighting.
5) Who cares? Only applicable to you or anyone who gives a crap about how strong they were at the time. AKA, lame answer. Also, he was that strong, because he inflicted some severe pain and almost all who he fought with.

Buu is an okay villain. eh destroyed the planet in a flash and doesnt afraid of anything.
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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by Godo » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:40 pm

I too think that the regeneration is ridiculous. It was enough with Ma Junior being able to regenerate.

Freeza = Piccolo Damaio non-demonized, intergalactic tyrant instead of Earth's tyrant ruler

Cell = Freeza with our heroes' moves. Has got multiple forms too.

Buu:
Fat = I'll give him some originality. He was awesomly evil, like a child with a gun.
Super = Here, he was also kind of original. I liked his attitude! Impatient, not very polite. Does whatever he wants! Except for liking to fight, he's just chaotic in his personality.
Gotenks = When he fought Gohan it was like Trunks vs. Perfect Cell all over again. Trunks(Gohan) obtained a ridiculously high power, then Cell (Buu) transformed and beat the crap out of him.
Gohan = Like Super Perfect Cell. No worthy opponents left for him. Until Vegetto comes (or Gohan unleashes his power). In both instances they were really surprised by their opponents' powers.
Chibi = I'll give him originality, although he is like Super Buu in many ways. Also, his design is the most plain of them all. I think that his fight with SSJ3 Goku was the most boring in the Buu saga, although the part with him fighting Mr. Buu was good. Buu vs. Buu!

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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:05 pm

In some respects, Majin Boo is a gag villain.

Which totally fits the series, mind you.
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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:31 pm

We know that Toriyama was past his prime by the time he got around to the Boo Saga. He turned to having a gag villain, being Fat Boo, which didn't really fit Dragon Ball Z at that time because it wasn't a gag manga anymore. That, and the fact that Fat Boo wasn't all that evil.
I agree that Boo was one of the worst villains. Regeneration was used so many times by that time that I'm wondering why Kid Boo didn't just up and regenerate from Goku's Genki-Dama. That's one of the reasons why the Majin Boo Saga is recieved among a number of fans as being "the worst arc in DBZ".

Kid Boo was as bad as Fat Boo. He had no originality to him, no personality, no aim, unintelligent and a more annoying Broly.

The only Boo who I would class as a good villain is Super Boo.
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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by mystic trunks » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:42 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote: Regeneration was used so many times by that time that I'm wondering why Kid Boo didn't just up and regenerate from Goku's Genki-Dama.
I've wondered this myself.

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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:51 pm

I've wondered this myself.
It really is sad that the Majin Boo Saga is riddled with so many inconsistencies. Toriyama just didn't care anymore, which is why I strongly believe he should've ended the series with the Cell Arc. He didn't have to listen to the damn Goku fanboys! :x
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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:03 pm

I thought Buu was a good villain for the end of the series, I mean he was more original then the #17 and #18 where.
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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by Savage68 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:04 pm

Original still doesn't mean good.

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Post by CashmanX » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:13 pm

[quote="Piccolo Daimao"]Kid Boo was as bad as Fat Boo. He had no originality to him, no personality, no aim, unintelligent and a more annoying Broly.]

That's the whole character's point.

He's supposed to be the literal personification of chaotic evil.
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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by ShadowDude112 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:25 pm

CashmanX wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Kid Boo was as bad as Fat Boo. He had no originality to him, no personality, no aim, unintelligent and a more annoying Broly.
That's the whole character's point.

He's supposed to be the literal personification of chaotic evil.
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Re: Why Majin Buu is the worst villain in DBZ

Post by mystic trunks » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:29 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I thought Buu was a good villain for the end of the series, I mean he was more original then the #17 and #18 where.
How was he more original than the androids?

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