Can someone please tell me how Yamcha was beating Olibu?

[mystic trunks]

How was this possible? Pikkon had difficulty defeating him and he beat Freeza and Cell easily.

[Kaboom]

'Simple logic' and 'common sense' are alien concepts to Toei's writers.

It's one of the most ridonculous bits of filler in the entire show. Best to try forget it exists.

[Godo]

My theory is that Yamcha looked so old compared to the other fighters in Buu saga, since he had trained firstly with Kaio-sama and perfected his mistakes regarding his techniques, and also trained in the ROSAT for years and years, hence him looking much older.
Also, he had his hidden strength taken out of him by Dende, making him that strong.
Why didn't he help? Well, he was just a bit stronger than Cell, so his help wouldn't make such a difference.

[Xyex]

Well, first off, Pikkon didn't have trouble with Olibu. Olibu only fought weighted Pikkon and the match wasn't all that hard or even, Pikkon won fairly quickly. So that puts Olibu as weaker than weighted Pikkon, and weighted Pikkon's about even with base Goku. Pikkon only took out Freeza and Cell so easily because he got them by surprise, and perhaps because those in hell and without bodies aren't as strong as normal (otherwise how would Yemma send the likes of Freeza or Cell there in the first place?) and thus could be much weaker. (Though Freeza was also at his 'resting' level and so was much weaker than base Goku at that point.)

As for Yamcha being able to fight with him and win.... It's just filler. Olibu's a lot stronger than Yamcha. The only possible way something like that could work is if Olibu was screwing around and threw the fight. Especially since Yamcha hadn't trained in the last seven years.

[Drayenko]

Filler!

My theory is that Yamcha looked so old compared to the other fighters in Buu saga, since he had trained firstly with Kaio-sama and perfected his mistakes regarding his techniques, and also trained in the ROSAT for years and years, hence him looking much older.
Also, he had his hidden strength taken out of him by Dende, making him that strong.
Why didn't he help? Well, he was just a bit stronger than Cell, so his help wouldn't make such a difference.

Stronger than Cell? LOL, Yamcha wasn't even as strong as Android 18...It's filler, don't put so much thought into it...(Not even Piccolo is stronger than Cell, so...)

[Kaboom]

It's not so much about Olibu being stacked up against Paikuhan as it is his own merits. Unless I'm mistaken, Olibu was human, was said to have been around millennia ago and inspired most of Earth's old heroic legends, and had been training here on Grand Kaio's world ever since.

Olibu - Lifetime (I'd assume) of training on Earth + thousands of years of training with Grand Kaio.
Yamcha - 30-something years of training on Earth, plus about two years of training with Kaio.

You can do the math.

[Sprite Satan]

If we're looking for excuses rather than just going "Yeah, I know, right? That was dumb." then...

* It was training for Majin Boo, therefore Olibu just going all out and knocking Yamucha out in two seconds would not be conductive to either parties attempts at self-improvement.

* Yamucha gets about one good hit in Olibu. Even Piccolo got that in on Freeza.

* Toei reuse character designs all the time. It wasn't Olibu any more than those two film directors in the Great Saiyaman arc were Commander Red and Adjutant Black.

[Kaboom]

Or Olibu knows the split-form technique, and Yamcha had merely beaten one of the 500,000 clones he was currently dividing his power into.

[mystic trunks]

* Yamucha gets about one good hit in Olibu. Even Piccolo got that in on Freeza.

Yamcha beat the tar out of him and some other random fighter.

[Xyex]

Stronger than Cell? LOL, Yamcha wasn't even as strong as Android 18...It's filler, don't put so much thought into it...(Not even Piccolo is stronger than Cell, so...)

18 nothing, I doubt he'd be able to stand against Recoome very well at this point. Maybe at his prime, but not in the Buu Saga.

[Bussani]

As for Yamcha being able to fight with him and win.... It's just filler. Olibu's a lot stronger than Yamcha. The only possible way something like that could work is if Olibu was screwing around and threw the fight. Especially since Yamcha hadn't trained in the last seven years.

And Olibu himself was filler, so... Yeah...

[Drayenko]

Stronger than Cell? LOL, Yamcha wasn't even as strong as Android 18...It's filler, don't put so much thought into it...(Not even Piccolo is stronger than Cell, so...)

18 nothing, I doubt he'd be able to stand against Recoome very well at this point. Maybe at his prime, but not in the Buu Saga.

Yeah, you're right.

[Godo]

Filler!

My theory is that Yamcha looked so old compared to the other fighters in Buu saga, since he had trained firstly with Kaio-sama and perfected his mistakes regarding his techniques, and also trained in the ROSAT for years and years, hence him looking much older.
Also, he had his hidden strength taken out of him by Dende, making him that strong.
Why didn't he help? Well, he was just a bit stronger than Cell, so his help wouldn't make such a difference.

Stronger than Cell? LOL, Yamcha wasn't even as strong as Android 18...It's filler, don't put so much thought into it...(Not even Piccolo is stronger than Cell, so...)

I was obviously just kidding.

It's just a Filler Thing (tm).

[Piccolo Daimao]

One word. Dub.

And the thread's actually gone on for this long...

[Khalid Shahin]

One word. Dub.

And the thread's actually gone on for this long...

Was that a joke? Did you mean to say filler? Was that the joke? Now I feel like I'm making your joke lame if it were a joke.

[Rocketman]

One word. Dub.

...? How is this the dub's fault?

[Yamcha_krillin]

Yamcha was just plain MUCH stronger then Olibu.He defeated Olibu and another random fighter with utter ease.

Pikkon couldn't beat Olibu until he got his weights off.Pikkon weighted defeated Cell.

Yamcha>Pikkon>Olibu>Cell

TOEI just made Yamcha and Olibu THAT strong.

There is no proof that Olibu is even stronger then canon Yamcha.Since Olibu is filler and doesn't exist in the manga the only way we can judge his power is going by the anime and in the anime he was weaker then Yamcha.

[goodguy777]

The answer to this is plain and simple, it's the magic of filler.

[Olympian]

How was this possible? Paikuhan had difficulty defeating him and he beat Freeza and Cell easily.

Anime Yamcha is simply stronger than Manga Yamcha. He was usually stronger than Kurilin at times in the same Anime, at that.

It's not so much about Olibu being stacked up against Paikuhan as it is his own merits. Unless I'm mistaken, Olibu was human, was said to have been around millennia ago and inspired most of Earth's old heroic legends, and had been training here on Grand Kaio's world ever since.

Olibu - Lifetime (I'd assume) of training on Earth + thousands of years of training with Grand Kaio.
Yamcha - 30-something years of training on Earth, plus about two years of training with Kaio.

You can do the math.

Well yeah, but by the same token, Goku should be less skilled (not less powerful) than someone like him too. Comic books have the same thing too, some less trained caracters being able to best more "years worthy of training" characters.

Besides, Yamcha and co, are kind of super humans anyway. For plot porpuses (Manga or Toei) they just have *it*.

[LeprikanGT]

Yamcha had plenty of time to train between that fight and any fight we saw him in before hand, its possible.