Dragonball Z Season Sets - BluRay? Confused to the max!

[LilKokuLink]

Well I was on amazon.com and something onthe suggestion list popped up and took my notice. Dragonball Z Season One BluRay?? Now... I know there's probably not a lot of information about this bluray release and everyone probably knows very little about it... but I know nothing about the releases (whether or not it will happen and stuff). So is there anyone that can tell me some more about it? I'd appreciate it loads, thanks.

Here's a link to it:
http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Seaso ... 290&sr=1-1

[SHINOBI-03]

They still have it listed?!

[LilKokuLink]

Still? Lol so how long as it been up there?

[SHINOBI-03]

I'm not sure when... maybe over a year?!

No matter when, it was from before the announcment of Dragon Ball Kai.

[LilKokuLink]

Ahh wow damn... well it looks like I'm not gonna be waiting around for those. I'll just get the rest of the orange brick sets and get the Kai Blu-rays.

[EricM]

Would be a DNR'd upscale anyway...

[MajinVejitaXV]

Would be a DNR'd upscale anyway...

Err, no. It'd be DVNR'd to death, but it would be a native 1080p release. FUNimation scanned the film masters at 1080p when they did their abortion of a release (which is what this BD release would relate to, not the DragonBoxes). Though, seeing how bad it looked at 480p, I can only imagine what it looks like at 1080p...

[DemonRin]

Amazon does this a lot, I'm not sure if they still have it, but when Blu-ray came out, they assumed the Star Wars series would be soon to hit Blu and made an entry for it.

They just assume and then make these things, that's what happened here.

[MajinVejitaXV]

Amazon does this a lot, I'm not sure if they still have it, but when Blu-ray came out, they assumed the Star Wars series would be soon to hit Blu and made an entry for it.

They just assume and then make these things, that's what happened here.

Not really. They make entries for popular titles and then relay the interest generated (via the option to sign up and be informed with the item is scheduled for release) to the studios. They've done it for...oh, a decade or so?

[saiyanprincess]

It will probably be in the works in the next couple of years though; Blu Rays are vastly growing on the market, and with the huge disc capacity that they can hold, I'm sure it won't be long until Funi jumps onto the band wagon.
I'm hoping that dragonball Kai when it finally gets released US will get a blu ray release so i can see the full quality on my HD TV

[LilKokuLink]

Yes, I agree the same exactly, I love watching blu-rays on my HDTV and hope KAI comes out as a release in the US! (Well I live in the UK but yeah UK users can order abroad from Amazon.com). You live in the UK too right (I see from under your avatar), how easily are you able to buy Dragon Ball merchandise yourself?

[penguintruth]

I like how some people (especially on the Funimation forums) think Blu-Ray is going to help those Season Sets' footage.

Practically the entire purpose of Kai is to be DBZ in HD. Be patient.

[EricM]

Would be a DNR'd upscale anyway...

Err, no. It'd be DVNR'd to death, but it would be a native 1080p release. FUNimation scanned the film masters at 1080p when they did their abortion of a release (which is what this BD release would relate to, not the DragonBoxes). Though, seeing how bad it looked at 480p, I can only imagine what it looks like at 1080p...

I meant that under the logical assumption Funimation destroyed their Orange brick masters when they got the DBox masters. Or one would hope they did.

[LilKokuLink]

I like how some people (especially on the Funimation forums) think Blu-Ray is going to help those Season Sets' footage.

Practically the entire purpose of Kai is to be DBZ in HD. Be patient.

Well good! You should like it! (I'm being sarcastic too). With blu-ray FUNi can't fuck us about because really, it's blu-ray! Blu-ray is so advanced that blu-ray players can upscale image quality in itself for any dvd (meaning literally a much thinner & accurate blue ray of light scanning on the disc as opposed to a red light in normal DVD's). FUNi cannot risk getting done in for it not being of such quality because in the end blu-ray is a step ahead in the world. The remastered box set was done in 1080p HD, however it was converted back to standard definition when burnt on a standard disc. This resulted in giving us a 720 x 405 (not sure about the 405) resolution. However, now that we have blu-ray, the minimum is 1280 x 720 (720p HD), which is an increase resulting in better image quality. The next one is 1920 x 1080 (1080i HD), which is even better. And then the best commercially available is 1920 x 1080p (1080p Full HD). The difference between the last two, is that the "p" stands for progressive scanning and therefore means that 1080 horizontal lines make up your picture, and 1920 pixels make up one horizontal line. So infact, blu-ray WILL INCREASE image quality, nevertheless some people are not able to tell difference due to eyesight, but I definately can.

And yes, I can be patient for the KAI releases because I've got other stuff left to buy!

[VegettoEX]

LilKokuLink: For the record, unless someone explicitly states that they have no idea what people are talking about, explaining what HD is and all of its nuances to the experts that are already discussing it in this thread is an exercise in pointlessness .

[Kendamu]

The resolution doesn't matter. The colors and disappearing lines will be the same... just in a higher resolution.

[LilKokuLink]

Fair enough, I suppose no one asked for all that crap. But just couldn't think of another way to explain quality will get better otherwise what's the point in releasing blu ray sets? Even FUNimation won't do something ridiculous like that. Also, what's happened to faith? :/ I still think just because of ALL of FUNimation's mistakes and marketing strategies were how they are to this day... doesn't mean they won't change. Sometimes when people believe it to be bad, they'll only look at the bad bits of the product and not give a fair view on it thus being biased. But hey, FUNimation better change their ways >.<.

[VegettoEX]

Fair enough, I suppose no one asked for all that crap. But just couldn't think of another way to explain quality will get better otherwise what's the point in releasing blu ray sets? Even FUNimation won't do something ridiculous like that. Also, what's happened to faith? :/ I still think just because of ALL of FUNimation's mistakes and marketing strategies were how they are to this day... doesn't mean they won't change. Sometimes when people believe it to be bad, they'll only look at the bad bits of the product and not give a fair view on it thus being biased. But hey, FUNimation better change their ways >.<.

I'm sorry, but I can't even tell what it is you're trying to say here.

Their faux-"remastered" sets were arguably (by Franko) downscaled poorly, sure, which may have resulted in some issues. It doesn't, however, change the fact that so many things were altered and distorted, that even ignoring personal preference over things like colors and cropping, that all of the inherent GENUINE AND TECHNICAL FLAWS that were either created or expanded upon would be greatly enhanced by showcasing those masters at their true 1080p resolution, rather than the downscaled 480p DVD versions.

That's... well... that's just how it is.

[LilKokuLink]

Fair enough, I suppose no one asked for all that crap. But just couldn't think of another way to explain quality will get better otherwise what's the point in releasing blu ray sets? Even FUNimation won't do something ridiculous like that. Also, what's happened to faith? :/ I still think just because of ALL of FUNimation's mistakes and marketing strategies were how they are to this day... doesn't mean they won't change. Sometimes when people believe it to be bad, they'll only look at the bad bits of the product and not give a fair view on it thus being biased. But hey, FUNimation better change their ways >.<.

I'm sorry, but I can't even tell what it is you're trying to say here.

Their faux-"remastered" sets were arguably (by Franko) downscaled poorly, sure, which may have resulted in some issues. It doesn't, however, change the fact that so many things were altered and distorted, that even ignoring personal preference over things like colors and cropping, that all of the inherent GENUINE AND TECHNICAL FLAWS that were either created or expanded upon would be greatly enhanced by showcasing those masters at their true 1080p resolution, rather than the downscaled 480p DVD versions.

That's... well... that's just how it is.

Yes, I agree Funimation did say all this 1080p in their commercials and I was 'tricked' by that. I didn't even know it wasn't really Full HD until I put the dvd into my computer to rip a certain scene for an amv. Basically, I watched the set with the psychological fact that 'the picture looks great, 1080p is really good!'. When I put it in, and the resolution said 720 by something, I felt like I'd have been scammed. However the picture still looked the same to me. But, what's to say is that, can you say that they will do something similar with the BluRays? I mean, there's hardly any information about it at all so we can't just presume but yes we can predict. I realise I have been talking some nonsense, but yeah we can't really argue with other people opinions it is down to personal preference, I personally don't notice much with the cropping, I've got some of the orange brick sets, and I'm also collecting the Dragon Boxes too. Both versions of the show are great to me, but in the end I think that you're right with the info about the remastered box sets. But I made this thread so I can know more about the releases (if there was any) of dragonball z remastered box sets in blu ray. There initially was no need to say "oh its going to be DVNR'd to death", because we really don't know that! And so this is how I think this silly little me mouthing off started up as!

[VegettoEX]

I guess I still don't understand what it is you're even talking about, other than your being bamboozled by their jive talk about the faux-"remastered" sets and their resolution.

As has been explained, the Amazon listing for a Blu-ray set of DBZ episodes is nothing more than a placeholder page for a product that does not exist (but one that could in theory). At the same time, it's almost irrelevant to even discuss that page OR what the technical aspects of such a release could be... since it probably won't come out. We say this because of its irrelevance -- FUNimation has now placed emphasis on the Dragon Box masters for the DBZ TV series, and in all likelihood will push Kai as the "HD version" of the series.

Any previous masters they own/created are basically, like I said, irrelevant.