Splicing the Orange Brick dub track onto the Dragon Boxes?

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Splicing the Orange Brick dub track onto the Dragon Boxes?

Post by Greenman » Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:51 am

Is there any way to take the original broadcast dub track included on the Orange Bricks and rip the audio for use with the Dragon Boxes? I'd probably buy the season sets if I could take the audio from them and burn it onto a DVD with the Dragon Box footage.

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Post by nathantheguitarist » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:50 pm

I'm curious as to how to go about doing something like this as well. I'd want to basically carbon copy the Dragon Box discs with the original dub track in place of the current one, and maybe the Mexican track in place of the Japanese if it ever gets released here properly.

Quick question for clarification though, do the original singles releases have a stereo and a 5.1 English track? If so, it may still be worth it to hunt down the singles at least for better dub audio.
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Post by Greenman » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:05 pm

I don't think any of the original singles have a 5.1 track, although the Ultimate Uncut releases do.

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Post by johnboy1 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:53 pm

Well, it's certainly possible. You'd need to rip the audio tracks from the Orange Bricks and the video tracks from the DBoxes with DVD Decrypter. Then, using MPEG Video Wizard DVD, you'd need to run the video files through the MPEG GOP Fixer to fix the time-code errors. Then, also using MPEG Video Wizard DVD, you'd have to line up the video and audio tracks so that they sync, cutting out the eye-catchers and next-episode previews (or leaving them silent). Then you'd export them as separate audio and video tracks and load them up through DVD Lab or TMPGEnc Authoring Works to create the actual DVD files. Then use Nero to burn the disc. The downside to this is that you'd need to make your own menus instead of using the ones from the DBox. I don't know how you'd go about keeping them.

Of course, this would become mind-numbingly tedious after only a few episodes. As much as I love the dub score, it's not worth it.
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Post by Greenman » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:03 pm

Thank you for the response. It does sound very tedious.

Are there any alternatives to those programs that aren't trialware?

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Post by johnboy1 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:08 pm

Greenman wrote:Thank you for the response. It does sound very tedious.

Are there any alternatives to those programs that aren't trialware?
Maybe, but I'm not familiar with them. Check out the technical forum on OriginalTrilogy.com. You can ask about it there. They've been doing this stuff for years.
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Re: Splicing the Orange Brick dub track onto the Dragon Boxes?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:31 pm

Why would you need to do anything for the eyecatches? The orange bricks have them, and, as far as I know, have a dub score specifically for them.
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Re: Splicing the Orange Brick dub track onto the Dragon Boxes?

Post by russ869 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:05 pm

johnboy1 wrote:The downside to this is that you'd need to make your own menus instead of using the ones from the DBox. I don't know how you'd go about keeping them.
People generally use VobBlanker to keep original menus. You load the original DVD and then choose the option to replace the main PGC with the VOBs that contain the new audio track.
Of course, this would become mind-numbingly tedious after only a few episodes. As much as I love the dub score, it's not worth it.
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Post by nathantheguitarist » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:14 am

russ869 wrote:
johnboy1 wrote:Of course, this would become mind-numbingly tedious after only a few episodes. As much as I love the dub score, it's not worth it.
No kidding... Ugh.
Well... it's obviously not exactly a weekend (or even several weekend) project. :P
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Re: Splicing the Orange Brick dub track onto the Dragon Boxes?

Post by Conan the SSJ » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:55 pm

You'd really be better off using the "broadcast dub" from FUNi's original single DVDs, even though they're all hard to find and out of print, they don't contain alterations to certain music cues or pieces of dialogue here and there. I only suggest that since you seem to be nit-picky in wanting this, though obviously you'd need the first two Orange Bricks for eps 28-67.
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Post by Greenman » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:39 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:You'd really be better off using the "broadcast dub" from FUNi's original single DVDs, even though they're all hard to find and out of print, they don't contain alterations to certain music cues or pieces of dialogue here and there. I only suggest that since you seem to be nit-picky in wanting this, though obviously you'd need the first two Orange Bricks for eps 28-67.
I don't think I'd want to do 1-67 since I don't have any attachment to FUNi dub of those episodes. Do episodes 68 and up of the season sets have changes too? Even if the season sets are altered as well, I'm not sure yet if I'd want to go through the trouble of finding all those single DVDs when it'd so much easier to buy the season sets.

I might give it a try with one of the FUNi single DVDs I own. I think the hardest part for me is going to be syncing the audio the the video.

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Post by nathantheguitarist » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:43 pm

I'll definitely hunt down the singles when there's more money around. Aside from the Faulconer score, I also want stuff like the filters on voices left, and no weird voice changing around Season 3.

But yeah, the first 67 episodes mean squat to me as well lol.

As for the Mexican dub... all I can think of is finding a random bootleg DVD somewhere for the episodes past Volume 10 of the DVDs out now. Dammit Funi. :evil:
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Post by Castor Troy » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:01 pm

Plus there's the issue if you want Sabat's redub of Vegeta and Brice Armstrong's Ginyu with Faulconer music or classic Sabat Vegeta and Dale Kelley Ginyu.

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Post by Dark Vegeta-Sama » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:51 pm

Castor Troy wrote:Plus there's the issue if you want Sabat's redub of Vegeta and Brice Armstrong's Ginyu with Faulconer music or classic Sabat Vegeta and Dale Kelley Ginyu.
It'd be hilarious to go from watching Sabat's redubbed Vegeta voice up until episode 67 to Sabat's original season 3 Vegeta voice in episode 68. Talk about jarring.

If you showed it to a new fan that way, I bet it would be hard to convince them that both versions are voiced by the same guy.

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Post by penguintruth » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:04 am

Why would you do this? It's like wiping your ass with the Mona Lisa.
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Post by Savage68 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:19 am

^I saw your name as the most recent poster, and came in knowing pretty much exactly what you would say.

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Post by Greenman » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:26 am

penguintruth wrote:Why would you do this? It's like wiping your ass with the Mona Lisa.
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Post by penguintruth » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:39 am

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penguintruth wrote:Why would you do this? It's like wiping your ass with the Mona Lisa.
Nostalgia. Just nostalgia.
Hm, I guess that explains that Ocean Dragon Box thing I've seen.
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Re: Splicing the Orange Brick dub track onto the Dragon Boxes?

Post by jjgp1112 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:03 am

penguintruth wrote:Why would you do this? It's like wiping your ass with the Mona Lisa.
Wow, really? Even in this thread? I'm gonna have to agree with Savage, as soon as I saw your name as most recent poster, I pretty much expected this.
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Re: Splicing the Orange Brick dub track onto the Dragon Boxes?

Post by Kaboom » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:05 am

Let's keep the thread on-topic and try to avoid the all-too-typical flame-baiting that tends to arise with every dub-related, okay?
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