Nappa and Vegeta's colors wrong in episode 2?

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Nappa and Vegeta's colors wrong in episode 2?

Post by mysticgoten » Sun May 09, 2010 5:11 pm

Nappa and Vegeta are introduced in Episode 3, however, I was watching Episode 2, and while Raditz was explaining about the Saiyajins, you saw several pictures.
One includes Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz handing out a paper to a species with them handing something back. (A Dragon Ball?)
Right there, Vegeta has red hair and their whole pallete is incorrect.

Did anyone else noticed this?
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Re: Nappa and Vegeta's colors wrong in episode 2?

Post by dan2026 » Sun May 09, 2010 6:26 pm

mysticgoten wrote:Nappa and Vegeta are introduced in Episode 3, however, I was watching Episode 2, and while Raditz was explaining about the Saiyajins, you saw several pictures.
One includes Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz handing out a paper to a species with them handing something back. (A Dragon Ball?)
Right there, Vegeta has red hair and their whole pallete is incorrect.

Did anyone else noticed this?
Its been mentioned before. They fixed their intoduction scene but not that one.
If it makes you feel any better just imagine they are alternate universe versions.
I'm sure its only on screen for a few seconds (I can't remember), but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Sun May 09, 2010 6:29 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot about that flashback.

However, when they appear on that planet and talk about Saiyan breeding and the Dragon Balls, their appearance is fixed. And of course, the Arlia filler's gone, so you don't have to worry about that.
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Re: Nappa and Vegeta's colors wrong in episode 2?

Post by Amigo Ten » Sun May 09, 2010 6:33 pm

Nappa still has that brown armour on in that scene doesn't he? They didn't change it to yellow.

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Post by LeprikanGT » Sun May 09, 2010 6:35 pm

I remember this on the podcast at some point. I think it was something about them coloring the episode before they were colored in the manga or something then they got in line afterwards with the manga.

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Re: Nappa and Vegeta's colors wrong in episode 2?

Post by dan2026 » Sun May 09, 2010 6:39 pm

I just double checked this, as I didn't notice the first time a watched the episode.
They only appear for a single frame along with a ton of other Saiyans.
You can barely tell its them.

I have to wonder though, why on earth Toei thought Neon Orange was a good colour scheme for Vegeta.

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Post by Blue » Sun May 09, 2010 6:51 pm

dan2026 wrote: I have to wonder though, why on earth Toei thought Neon Orange was a good colour scheme for Vegeta.
...and puke green too. Maybe they thought he was going to be a one shot villain like Raditz? So color wouldn't really matter in the end.
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Post by bkev » Sun May 09, 2010 6:53 pm

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Probably the same reason they thought Seto Kaiba had green hair.
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Post by dan2026 » Sun May 09, 2010 7:02 pm

bkev wrote: Probably the same reason they thought Seto Kaiba had green hair.
Good point. Oh Toei, you so crazy.

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Mon May 10, 2010 6:00 am

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Probably the same reason they thought Seto Kaiba had green hair.
That was Toei's screw up. When N.A.S did their series, they fixed this.


Speaking of colour catastrophes, Karin has appeared in three colours (White, Blue and Brown) on official media.

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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Mon May 10, 2010 6:51 am

I noticed the error when I read DB Wiki.

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Post by Adamant » Mon May 10, 2010 5:12 pm

bkev wrote: Probably the same reason they thought Seto Kaiba had green hair.
I saw that series first, and got used to that hair color. The brown hair in the second series felt off to me (though at least Grandpa stopped dressing in pink there).
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Re: Nappa and Vegeta's colors wrong in episode 2?

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Tue May 11, 2010 2:23 am

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bkev wrote: Probably the same reason they thought Seto Kaiba had green hair.
I saw that series first, and got used to that hair color. The brown hair in the second series felt off to me (though at least Grandpa stopped dressing in pink there).
The series never made it to US Because of the :twisted: HARDCORE :twisted: violence but made it to Indonesia (but I quickly know the differences between the art).

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue May 11, 2010 4:09 am

Goku100xKamehameha wrote: The series never made it to US Because of the :twisted: HARDCORE :twisted: violence but made it to Indonesia (but I quickly know the differences between the art).
The penalty games are the only thing violent about that series and DBZ is even more violent than that.

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Re: Nappa and Vegeta's colors wrong in episode 2?

Post by Blue » Tue May 11, 2010 4:18 pm

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:
Adamant wrote:
bkev wrote: Probably the same reason they thought Seto Kaiba had green hair.
I saw that series first, and got used to that hair color. The brown hair in the second series felt off to me (though at least Grandpa stopped dressing in pink there).
The series never made it to US Because of the :twisted: HARDCORE :twisted: violence but made it to Indonesia (but I quickly know the differences between the art).
I think it never made it to the US because it didn't push Duel Monsters as much as the new anime, therefore it wasn't as much of a commercial for small children to buy cards.I think most of the violence could have been easily censored.
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Re: Nappa and Vegeta's colors wrong in episode 2?

Post by Adamant » Tue May 11, 2010 4:58 pm

Okay, getting really far off topic here, but "violence" was definitely not the reason the first anime series went largely ignored outside Japan. You see people constantly state how violent and "hardcore" that series was, but... seriously, it's really far tamer than Duel Monsters ever was. I'm not even sure what these "violent" moments are supposed to be. Have the people making these claims even seen the series?
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Re: Nappa and Vegeta's colors wrong in episode 2?

Post by bkev » Tue May 11, 2010 5:50 pm

It is a little darker in nature, but it's still toned down from even the manga chapters of the time. Plus, the series kind of sucks... at least, in my opinion. Too many filler characters (Miho can go die), and the pacing is kind of slow. It's a shame that Death-T and Bakura's board game didn't get better adaptations.
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Re: Nappa and Vegeta's colors wrong in episode 2?

Post by Blue » Tue May 11, 2010 6:25 pm

bkev wrote:It is a little darker in nature, but it's still toned down from even the manga chapters of the time. Plus, the series kind of sucks... at least, in my opinion. Too many filler characters (Miho can go die), and the pacing is kind of slow. It's a shame that Death-T and Bakura's board game didn't get better adaptations.
Wow I didn't think someone could mirror my feelings on this series 100%.

Oh hey, about the Dragonball guys? :wink:
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Post by Mewzard » Tue May 11, 2010 9:10 pm

Toei commonly messes up hair early on. If any of you have watched Saint Seiya, then seen the color art, you can tell almost no character has the right hair color. Mainly because Kurumada gave 99% of his characters normal hair colors (black, brown, blonde, red, etc), and Toei gave 99% of the characters hair colors that would make their parents (if their mothers weren't dead, and their shared father *a Zeus reference if I ever heard, but was removed from the anime...fucking Toei* wasn't dead) flip out.

Toei did the same with Kaiba, and even in DB, they did the same with Bulma. Toei's not one for research, really. It's just a habit of theirs. They kept Trunks right...yet messed up Bra. And let's not forget Vegeta's coloring during his first appearance in the anime.
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Re: Nappa and Vegeta's colors wrong in episode 2?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed May 12, 2010 3:32 am

Adamant wrote:Okay, getting really far off topic here, but "violence" was definitely not the reason the first anime series went largely ignored outside Japan. You see people constantly state how violent and "hardcore" that series was, but... seriously, it's really far tamer than Duel Monsters ever was. I'm not even sure what these "violent" moments are supposed to be. Have the people making these claims even seen the series?
They just say it's more violent because they really hate Duel Monsters. I don't know about you guys, but I think Duel Monsters is far superior even though it's "BASED ON A CARD GAME!!".

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