Scenes in Kai you feel have been done better musically

[MR.Mark]

So, being already half way through the series, what do you guys think?

What comes to mind for me is a scene in the Freeza fight, Goku gets a brief second wind, uses a 20x Kaio Ken and beats on Freeza. It uses track 16. Yushi no Gaisen from vol 2 of the Kai ost. It's one of my favorite tracks from Yamamoto's score and it's also used really well in the "Supa Saiyajin Son Goku da!" scene too.

[penguintruth]

"The Braveheart's Triumphant Return", right? That's definitely Yamamoto's best track in Kai. And it really did work well in the "Supaa Saiya-jin, Son Goku da!" scene, at least as well as the Genki Dama music.

But I find that even the scenes Kai handles well, musically, I find that Z handled them just a little better. There are some scenes that even have some fine voice acting but the Yamamoto music spoils, like Vegeta's death.

Still better than Funimation's Z soundtrack, though.

[Kaboom]

There's the scene for 'Saiyan Blood,' obviously. Not only does "Super Saiyan" Vegeta not spend half an entire episode powering up this time, but the minute or so that he DOES take to do it is accompanied by a kickass new insert song.

[MR.Mark]

Shunsuke Kikuchi will be remembered for the better score I'm sure, It's especially easier to appreciate his music when it's not in dated mono.

Yamamoto is no slouch in his music ethier, certain Kai tracks have blown Z's out of the water for sure. Another very recent scene is Son Goku's heart attack, WAY more memorable than the Z version.

[mysticgoten]

"The Braveheart's Triumphant Return", right? That's definitely Yamamoto's best track in Kai. And it really did work well in the "Supaa Saiya-jin, Son Goku da!" scene, at least as well as the Genki Dama music.

But I find that even the scenes Kai handles well, musically, I find that Z handled them just a little better. There are some scenes that even have some fine voice acting but the Yamamoto music spoils, like Vegeta's death.

Still better than Funimation's Z soundtrack, though.

This is my entire thought, it's the best track that Yamamoto has done.
It worked well with that little speech, Genki-Dama, AND the 20x Kaio-Ken scene.

Obviously, there should be more silent scenes.

[MR.Mark]

Another example of a tracks I enjoy plus were used well, 14. Tatakai no Rondo. I'm not sure where it was first used, maybe when Goku powers up in front of Ginyu, it's a catchy little Tune.

I really love when they used it for Vegeta's gravity training, it just had that "this was made for that scene" feel to it.

Also, when Son Goku and Piccolo agree to work together, the use of The Clouds Of War Spread here is epic. The way they fly off and the music caps off with the DUN DUN!! , really gives you the feel of "oh yeah, it's on", it's great.

[B]

I don't recall the name or episode, but the scene where Vegeta and Nappa land on Earth is just fantastic in Kai. Very dramatically built-up and very appropriate.

[dragonpiece]

Hmm, my favorite moments with the Kai score have to be....

• The Beginning.
  When Son Goku leaves Kaiou sama's planet.
  When Piccolo Daimo dies by Nappa.

Those have to be my favorite.

[MR.Mark]

I'll bring up some of the image songs used in Kai thus far. Sanjou!! Ginyu Tokusentai!!, without a doubt, beat's the bgm used in Z, really makes the Ginyu's introduction special. The instrumental used when they warmed up was hilarious too.

I don't care what anyone says, Chou Gya Super Dragon Soul should of been used with the SSJ transformation. What's wrong with making that scene as special as Gohan's SSJ 2 transformation? While I liked it's use in the scene where Goku is healed, the initial build up especially. When Son first steps out of the healing tank, it gives me goosebumps, however, like Saiyan Blood, I feel an instrumental version would of worked a little better.

Back on the subject of Kai doing it better, Only a Chilling Elegy worked beautifully both times it was used. It didn't come off as repetitive at all, the first time used the chorus, where the second broke into some lyrics. Freeza standing there, building tension, deciding who'll be first, then he strikes! It just worked so well, the chorus of that song really suits Freeza's creepiness. It gave the scene a "shit just got serious" feel of hopelessness. The second time it was used gave Freeza his "I'm so awesome" moment. Piccolo and the others all wailing away at Freeza, completely in vain, it worked so well.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

Vegeta's arrival on Namek, Battle for rivalry is awesome!
I own all the tracks that were released and it's quite catchy to listen to!

[dan2026]

I don't know what the name of the track is, but I really liked the music that was played in the scene where Trunks kills Freeza.
The music and the sound effects were a great match in that scene.

[penguintruth]

I don't know what the name of the track is, but I really liked the music that was played in the scene where Trunks kills Freeza.
The music and the sound effects were a great match in that scene.

Eh, I preferred "Battle Power Unlimited".

Which itself was a Yamamoto track.

[Taku128]

I don't know what the name of the track is, but I really liked the music that was played in the scene where Trunks kills Freeza.
The music and the sound effects were a great match in that scene.

Eh, I preferred "Battle Power Unlimited".

Which itself was a Yamamoto track.

I believe you mean a Propaganda track.

[Rory]

Nothing can beat "Battle Point Unlimited". It's a bold statement, but it just can't be done. Every musical cue in that episode (especially when BPU is used) is perfect .

[Taku128]

Nothing can beat "Battle Point Unlimited". It's a bold statement, but it just can't be done. Every musical cue in that episode (especially when BPU is used) is perfect .

Too bad it's plagiarized.

[penguintruth]

This isn't like that thing where people think Yoko Kanno plagarizes and you hear the examples and they're only vaguely similar, is it?

[Taku128]

This isn't like that thing where people think Yoko Kanno plagarizes and you hear the examples and they're only vaguely similar, is it?

It was literally cut and paste plagiarism from various Propaganda songs. kei17 had a video on YouTube that showed it off, but his account got banned so the video isn't around anymore.

[penguintruth]

Propaganda songs... with an 80s techno beat?

Dude, I totally want to hear those.

[Taku128]

Did a little googling and found one of the songs he ripped off. There were a few others Battle Point Unlimited rips off too, working on finding those...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWoUZwr6aWE#t=0m33s

edit: second added http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWvkpjvu8q4#t=1m14s

edit 2: and a third! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0nsJghFqlI#t=1m00s

edit 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gMnHhqPKEo#t=2m38s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gMnHhqPKEo#t=5m25s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYPZR8dHpSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYPZR8dHpSA#t=3m05s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFCEii1yIls#t=2m25s

[penguintruth]

Oh, the name of the artist/group is Propaganda. I thought... nevermind.

Eh, the background beat is the same, but it's not a complete rip-off.