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Post by Ussj Future Trunks » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:59 am

Most underrated movie in DBZ? i think so. Definitely not the bomb everyone thinks it is.
Creative villain death instead of just another kamehameha.
Forgotten heroes given time to shine.
Bio Broly doesn't keep screaming about Kakarot. He has that look of "I dont care who you are. i will kick your ass".
Fights better than the original Broly, with more martial arts. On that note, the fights were much better with more synchronised choreography, not clotheslining and as much ki blast spam.
Was Bio Broly an homage to old 50's monster movies? Especially with the dbz take on "Science Gone Wrong."
the triple Kamehameha at the end i thought paralleled the old days (World's Strongest: Goku, Krillin and Roshi attacking Dr Wheelo).
Humour with Mr Satan owning 18 some money :) and classic Goten and Trunks antics.
Drama with the priest subplot and the return of an old foe.

Hehe i seem to have a thing for underrated aspects of dbz. Anyway i think i liked this movie better than Tree of Might and Fusion Reborn (Maybe i will explain that in a later post).
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:13 am

Yeah, I also loved Bio-Broly. I really can't figure out why everyone hates it. One of the main reasons why I love it, is because Goku and Vegeta aren't the ones saving the day this time. Minor characters (well, at that point in time) like Krillin and #18 get to shine. The animation is good, the fights are awesome and the plot is decent. Really not a bad movie (much better than the second Broly movie, IMO).

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:22 am

I actually enjoyed the second and third Broli movies much more than the first. The story in the first one was good, but the movie itself dragged on way too long. It showed what could be accomplished by making a DB movie close to feature length... and that's why we don't do it very often. :lol:

But, yeah, I liked the third one. Truth is I usually like the first half of any DB movie better than the second half. The first half has all the fun character stuff, the humor, the chance to see them do things they wouldn't normally do. But once the actual battle starts, that's when my attention span wanes. Mostly because I don't think many of the fights in the movies are actually that good. Most of them are exactly the same thing. And the story pretty much comes to a stop at that point. Some of my exceptions are the first three movies and movie 9. Well, movie 9 not quite as much as the first three. I love the first three all the way through. Movie 9, I love the tournament, and I love the end of the battle, with that music, that, "Father said stop being a spoiled child," thing. It was awesome. It was epic. Everything in between is pretty forgettable.

So all that said, I love movie 11 for what it has to offer aside from the fighting. I like the payoff to the 25th Budoukai. I love seeing Kuririn briefly parent Marron. I love exploring Mr. Satan's backstory. And I also like Trunks rattling off about biotechnology. The rest of it... eh, I really don't remember, even though I just watched it a few months ago.

So, yeah.
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Re: Bio-Broly

Post by Kid Buu » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:35 am

The original Broly film I loved until the actual fight began, then it became a boring mess.

Despite how horrid Broly's design was in Bio-Broly, I always loved this one. It was cool seeing minor characters getting some spotlight, but when are Yamcha and Yajirobe ever gonna get their time to shine? :/
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Post by MCDaveG » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:24 am

I like this movie pretty much in terms of fights and plot, only thing I always didn't got into is Broli's design.
I like all designs of DB villains (not counting GT) and this was quite leftdown.
Everything in the movie is great, including the 18 and Satan deal from the series, but it was pain sometimes, to watch great fighting with great animation, against some slime.
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Post by Cipher » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:25 am

Easily my favorite among the latter half of the movies, with the exception of #13, which actually seems like a real movie.

Anyway, its far more enjoyable than most of the other entries for all the reasons you've listed. The character selection is top-notch, the fighting and finishing technique are a change from the norm, it sprinkles some continuity into the movies, and the villain is awesome '50s sci-fi cheesiness. For all the "The movies are a fun way to kill forty-five minutes" I see written around here, this is one of the only ones that's actually fun.

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Post by rereboy » Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:24 am

It would have been far better if the monster wasn`t a clone of Brolly but an original character.

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Post by Rocketman » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:53 am

I've never seen it, but I hate Goten, Kid Trunks and Broly, so I'm sure I wouldn't like it.

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Post by Choice195 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:18 pm

I just like the movie because it has Broly in it. :lol:

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Post by Raki » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:38 pm

Thinking back I'd probably rank Bio-Broly as my second favorite film behind World's Strongest. It was just so different from the other films that followed the same old tired formula.
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Post by Cipher » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:38 pm

rereboy wrote:It would have been far better if the monster wasn`t a clone of Brolly but an original character.
It basically is an original character, but with the added bonus of working in a bit of continuity.

We all know Broli was just on the bill to sell tickets, but he effectively helps tie the movies together, eliminates the need for background on yet another generic strong guy, and as a pile of melting ooze he doesn't infect the movie with any more Broli stupidity.

Honestly, you get sick of all the "Bwahaha, I'm strong and evil. Behold my generic villainous goals!" every single time. By the time the last few movies roll around, it's high time for a slime-monster, a comical demon, and a kaiju homage. So refreshing.

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Re: Bio-Broly

Post by rereboy » Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:00 pm

To me using Brolly didn`t work.

It felt so random. Basically, it felt like they were just using that character to keep people interested (omg its Brolly!) but without any intention of using him like a sayan or a fighter, which is all he is.

I mean, what was the point of actually using Brolly? They could have used any other original character and the movie would basically be the same. They chose him just to keep people interested (but without actually using him as Brolly) and to not have to come up with an original design.

This kind of ruined the movie for me a bit. With an original character it would be feel way better (to me).

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Post by Godo » Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:44 pm

As much as I hate Broly, it was nice to see non-überpowered characters getting a chance once and for all.
Goten, Trunks, C18 and Kuririn in all their glory. The only one missing was Piccolo, but I guess that by that time, he would have obliterated Broly with ease.
*Thinks of a Special covering the humans solving an Earth crisis, with Goku and the other Saiya-jins and Piccolo not present for some reason*

Funny thing though, with the massive energy beams and fierce fighting, Gohan missed the fight in movie 11. I guess he was deeply into studying for a final exam or sleeping.
Just like Vegeta was absent in movie 10. He was probably exhausted from training in the gravity room.

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Post by Kid Buu » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:09 pm

Godo wrote: *Thinks of a Special covering the humans solving an Earth crisis, with Goku and the other Saiya-jins and Piccolo not present for some reason*
If they made a movie that takes place during the one year wait for the Saiyans, that would be the perfect chance to have a film with just the humans in it.

They could also make a film just for Piccolo during that era, just have Gohan get kidnapped again and Piccolo come and save him. Something like that anyways.
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Re: Bio-Broly

Post by Blue » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:29 pm

If it was retitled "Goten and Trunks fight Mr.Sludge" I'd enjoy it more.
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:46 pm

Blue wrote:If it was retitled "Goten and Trunks fight Mr.Sludge" I'd enjoy it more.
How does a title of a movie affect the actual movie itself? What if Avatar was named "Shit", would you have watched it?

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Re: Bio-Broly

Post by Blue » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:23 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Blue wrote:If it was retitled "Goten and Trunks fight Mr.Sludge" I'd enjoy it more.
How does a title of a movie affect the actual movie itself? What if Avatar was named "Shit", would you have watched it?
No but I didn't like Avatar when it was named Avatar so...
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Re: Bio-Broly

Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:47 pm

I admit I almost didn't see Avatar when they named it Avatar since it caused the show Avatar's movie to have to be renamed. So, yeah... The title can affect one's enjoyment. I held a grudge against it for a while.
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Re: Bio-Broly

Post by Blue » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:49 pm

I think you guys are looking into my dumb little joke a little too deeply.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:53 pm

Not at all. It just made me think of that, for some reason.
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