Gohan's scream in 9 different languages

[Shiyonasan]

Not my video, but these language comparisons are always interesting to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od9arCEoq_Q

Languages in order:

~Japanese
~English (Might be the Dragon Box dub. Here's the original TV broadcast version.)
~Latin America (Mexico)
~Catalan
~Spanish
~Italian
~Chinese
~German
~Portuguese

I'll post my thoughts later, but I will say that the original version is my favorite.

EDIT: The audio for the German and Chinese clips are mixed up just as a forewarning.

[penguintruth]

I love how the English version is the only version with Gohan's unecessary inner monologue about how 16 loved life (which he just finished saying before he got smashed). And the only version that doesn't use some form of Spirit vs Spirit. And is probably the worst version.

The Japanese version is the best, but some of those other versions are pretty decent. I especially like the Latin American one, though the approach is a little different than Nozawa's.

[jjgp1112]

Wait a minute...why the hell does the Funi dub clip use different music? Originally, they used the Hyperbolic Time Chamber theme. That theme that's in that clip didn't even debut until the Buu saga when Gohan powers up on Supreme Kai's planet.

[Cowboy Dev]

I love how the English version is the only version with Gohan's unecessary inner monologue about how 16 loved life (which he just finished saying before he got smashed). And the only version that doesn't use some form of Spirit vs Spirit. And is probably the worst version.

The Japanese version is the best, but some of those other versions are pretty decent. I especially like the Latin American one, though the approach is a little different than Nozawa's.

Damn it Penguin, that was what I was going to say!

[Adamant]

Wow... I'm simply stunned at how bad the English one was. Ruined the scene completely. Yech.
As for the others... eh, not too much to compare, really. It's cool the Catalan dub actually dubbed the song, though.

[Shadow-Link]

Wait a minute...why the hell does the Funi dub clip use different music? Originally, they used the Hyperbolic Time Chamber theme. That theme that's in that clip didn't even debut until the Buu saga when Gohan powers up on Supreme Kai's planet.

I noticed the very same thing. I think the audio clip is taken from the Season Sets, though I can't confirm this as I don't have this particular set. But its not the first time I noticed a little difference between the Single's and the Season Sets music wise.

And to all the people who don't like the English version, to me it seems you guys don't like it just because its so different from the original. But the scene is still good in its own way.
They English and Japanese scene are both great.

[jjgp1112]

Wait a minute...why the hell does the Funi dub clip use different music? Originally, they used the Hyperbolic Time Chamber theme. That theme that's in that clip didn't even debut until the Buu saga when Gohan powers up on Supreme Kai's planet.

I noticed the very same thing. I think the audio clip is taken from the Season Sets, though I can't confirm this as I don't have this particular set. But its not the first time I noticed a little difference between the Single's and the Season Sets music wise.

And to all the people who don't like the English version, to me it seems you guys don't like it just because its so different from the original. But the scene is still good in its own way.
They English and Japanese scene are both great.

In the season set, it's exactly as it should be.

[Shadow-Link]

Wait a minute...why the hell does the Funi dub clip use different music? Originally, they used the Hyperbolic Time Chamber theme. That theme that's in that clip didn't even debut until the Buu saga when Gohan powers up on Supreme Kai's planet.

I noticed the very same thing. I think the audio clip is taken from the Season Sets, though I can't confirm this as I don't have this particular set. But its not the first time I noticed a little difference between the Single's and the Season Sets music wise.

And to all the people who don't like the English version, to me it seems you guys don't like it just because its so different from the original. But the scene is still good in its own way.
They English and Japanese scene are both great.

In the season set, it's exactly as it should be.

Weird!! Then I wonder where the hell it came from

[jjgp1112]

Probably some crappy fan-made clip.

[linkdude20002001]

And to all the people who don't like the English version, to me it seems you guys don't like it just because its so different from the original. But the scene is still good in its own way.

The English dub ruined the scene with both the music and added dialogue. Seriously, Gohan's little speech made him sound like an idiot, and it ruined the moment. As for the music, it made the scene sound very ordinary. Though, you guys seem to be saying it's from a fan-made clip...

And where's the Westwood dub?

[Mountain]

And to all the people who don't like the English version, to me it seems you guys don't like it just because its so different from the original. But the scene is still good in its own way.
They English and Japanese scene are both great.

In my opinion, the fact that it's so different isn't the biggest problem. I just really think it's bad. Don't get me wrong, though; a lot of them are bad. Haha.

[Thanos]

Am I the only one who still gets chills from Japanese Gohan's scream?

[penguintruth]

And to all the people who don't like the English version, to me it seems you guys don't like it just because its so different from the original.

Well, it's different in the sense that it's horrible, whereas the original version isn't.

Though, I will admit that Naldony's actual scream isn't that bad.

Am I the only one who still gets chills from Japanese Gohan's scream?

No, I still do. This is my favorite scene in the entire franchise and Nozawa is awesome in it.

[Shiyonasan]

For the FUNi English version, here's the other clip with different music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpiO-Dt5 ... re=related

To be honest, I didn't like the FUNi version. It's not because it didn't include the original music or anything like that, but just that I felt the dialogue that he says while he's stunned at #16's death was unnecessary. Nadolny's scream isn't that bad though.

As for the other versions, I think they're all pretty good, although the Spanish one is a little monotonous and the Chinese and Portuguese ones sound a little too deep.

[penguintruth]

For the FUNi English version, here's the other clip with different music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpiO-Dt5 ... re=related

The combination of the awful, generic music and Gohan's inner monologue ruin that scene. If they had simply taken his inner thoughts out and set it to "Spirit vs Spirit", or really any piece of music that wasn't garbage, they would have done a fair job. Another problem was that there was music throughout the entire scene.

Really, the actual scream, a rare good delivery by Naldony, was the only good part of it.

[linkdude20002001]

For the FUNi English version, here's the other clip with different music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpiO-Dt5 ... re=related

Okay, with the actual Engllish dub music... It's just as bad. There's absolutely nothing intense about that moment, and that's just from the music alone. The dialogue only makes it worse.

[TonyTheTiger]

To be honest, I didn't like the FUNi version. It's not because it didn't include the original music or anything like that, but just that I felt the dialogue that he says while he's stunned at #16's death was unnecessary. Nadolny's scream isn't that bad though.

I agree. The scream and even the music (at least half of it) are not bad at all. It's the inner monologue that destroys the entire scene. Not only does it squash the music, it actually gets in the way of the scream completely crushing the impact.

Not to mention the monologue heavily implies that it was 16's death and that alone which drove Gohan to snap when it should be pretty obvious that was just the last straw after years worth of physical and mental abuse.

Am I the only one who still gets chills from Japanese Gohan's scream?

No, I still do. This is my favorite scene in the entire franchise and Nozawa is awesome in it.

Same. It makes Goku's initial transformation look like garbage in comparison.

[penguintruth]

No, the worst thing about the inner monologue is that he's parroting everything 16 just said a moment earlier. Not that it even being there isn't dumb enough, but it adds to it.

16: I love nature.
Gohan: 16 loved nature!
16: Let it go.
Gohan: I'm letting it go!
16: Your mother's a whore.
Gohan: My mother is in the sex trade!

THANKS GOHAN, BECAUSE I NEEDED A RECAP.

[Mountain]

No, the worst thing about the inner monologue is that he's parroting everything 16 just said a moment earlier. Not that it even being there isn't dumb enough, but it adds to it.

16: I love nature.
Gohan: 16 loved nature!
16: Let it go.
Gohan: I'm letting it go!
16: Your mother's a whore.
Gohan: My mother is in the sex trade!

THANKS GOHAN, BECAUSE I NEEDED A RECAP.

Haha. No doubt, man. This has always bugged me. However, it wouldn't be the first time that unnecessary dialogue has ruined a scene in the FUNi dub...

[TonyTheTiger]

Yeah I don't get why they even bothered in that case. It's not even like the monologue adds to anything. I think it was just FUNi's obsession at the time with making sure something was happening at every possible second. Silent reflection was apparently a no-no for them.

I'll be honest, the unnecessary dialogue additions bother me a hell of a lot more than the severe dialogue changes. I think this is far worse than the Vegeta death speech, for instance. At least the death speech, while delivering a different message, kept the actual scene together. The monologue, on the other hand...

And it still bothers me that it implies Gohan was only reacting to 16's death. What made the moment so resounding was the fact that Cell just broke the camel's back. Gohan was releasing everything that built up over the years. His friends being in danger for the 100th time, Freeza and his men killing a lot of innocent people, Nappa killing Piccolo, Raditz beating the shit out of him, etc.