Will Pikkon even be in Kai?

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Will Pikkon even be in Kai?

Post by LeprikanGT » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:05 pm

I never read the manga so I'm not 100% on what was and was not filler, but I remember that the other world tourny was filler correct? So if all of Pikkon's appearance in the anime was in that filler, will he be cut from the show all together and be an exclusive movie character?

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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:13 pm

Paikuhan is a completely filler character, so, yeah, odds are he's not going to be in Kai. I mean, he really has no business being in Kai.
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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by LeprikanGT » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:16 pm

I liked his inclusion on the show, it helped give a gauge on how strong he was since he doesn't do all that much fighting in the movie.

But wow thats going to be a huge chuck of the show cut out, I guess thats the point to shorten it down.. That was one of the filler I always enjoyed. I liked seeing what Goku was up to while he was dead and it gave us more depth on the kais and all that.

Sadness for Pikkon, but I see why he will be gone.

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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:42 pm

Huge chunk? That's only six episodes, right?
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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:08 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Huge chunk? That's only six episodes, right?
Five. Paikuhan's in a few bits of filler during the Majin Boo arc but that should be avoidable.
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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by LeprikanGT » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:16 pm

I was talking about the whole Other World tournament stuff. I thought it was more than 6 episodes since the Great saiyaman saga was 5 dvds long.

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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:18 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:I was talking about the whole Other World tournament stuff. I thought it was more than 6 episodes since the Great saiyaman saga was 5 dvds long.
No, it was just five. #195-199.
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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by Kaboom » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:28 pm

It depends. He may end up like Gregory, in that he's so worked into scenes that are actually in canon, it becomes impossible or at least not worth the effort to remove him entirely. The Garlic Jr arc was easily and thankfully skipped, but who knows if the Afterlife Tournament arc will share the same fate. The difference being that it was actually GOOD.
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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by LeprikanGT » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:32 pm

I liked seeing all of the Other Word fights but I see why they would skip them. that's the only filler I would see ever being relivant, anthough I could see why Garlic Jr was in there, but still that wasn't my least favorite filler.

Was any of the Great Saiyaman stuff filler? I would LOVE for them to skip some of that, like with the baby dinosaur and the circus and Gohan being black mailed into a date.

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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by Senzu_Bean » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:32 pm

It contradicts too much the original work to be left untouched. Not to mention is God-awful.

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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by LeprikanGT » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:34 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:It contradicts too much the original work to be left untouched. Not to mention is God-awful.
Which is God-awful?

I thought Goku in other world was awesome.

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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by Senzu_Bean » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:36 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Which is God-awful?
The (mini)arc which this thread is about.

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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by LeprikanGT » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:43 pm

The thread is about if a single character will be cut or not, be appears in two different sections of the show.

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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:45 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Was any of the Great Saiyaman stuff filler? I would LOVE for them to skip some of that, like with the baby dinosaur and the circus and Gohan being black mailed into a date.
The anime version of Great Saiyaman isn't just filler... it's almost entirely re-written from the ground-up, and I've always been curious how they're going to handle it in Kai. It's the one time the anime really deviates from the manga. I guess the easiest way would be to skip straight to the dinosaur episode. That said, those are some of my favorite episodes in the entire series and one of the few times the anime really took something and ran with it, as well as one of the few times the manga just... well, let's face it... FAILED.
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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by LeprikanGT » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:50 pm

I wouldn't mind them showing him once around Videl and then her blackmailing him into the tournament and then skipping straight to her Goten, and Gohan training to fly. [assuming that'

Either way, they need some sort of explaination of him since he shows up in the tournament as Great Saiyaman. Was that the longest part of the anime where there was no fighting or serious training going on? Minus the scene with Trunks going Super Saiyan.

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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:54 pm

After she blackmails him into the tournament, there's really nothing to skip. (The blackmailing itself takes place in a different location in each version, but is otherwise the same.) Pretty much everything after that is canon: the flying lessons, Goten's power, Super Saiya-jin bargain sale. That's all in the manga.
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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by LeprikanGT » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:57 pm

I don't know the Sub line of Vegeta reacting to Trunks' Superness but I hope the dub was somewhere close so it would stay the same, its one of my fav. lines.

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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:59 pm

Well, I have no idea what the dub line was, but the original was something along the lines of, "There are far too many of what was once considered a legendary warrior. It's like a Super Saiya-jin bargain sale!"
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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by LeprikanGT » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:05 pm

The dub line is "Did...I miss something? When was it that the transformation into the legendary warrior of the Saiyan race was reduced to a child's play thing?"
Then after a little conversation with Trusnk about if Goten can transform as well he says "yes, naturall...a super saiyan bargain sale."

I'm leaning towards the dub one.

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Re: Will Paikuhan even be in Kai?

Post by Castor Troy » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:12 pm

He has as much of a chance as Garlic Jr.

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