Most popular character?

Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
User avatar
Piccolo Daimao
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8749
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:23 am

Most popular character?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:43 am

Who's the most popular character in Dragon Ball? I assume it's likely between Son Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo. I think I heard somewhere that Vegeta is particularly popular in Japan.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.

User avatar
Herms
Kanzenshuu Admin Emeritus
Posts: 10550
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:40 pm
Location: Jupiter
Contact:

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Herms » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:52 am

Piccolo Daimao wrote:I think I heard somewhere that Vegeta is particularly popular in Japan.
Here's the character popularity poll from DB Forever, which should give an idea of each characters' popularity among Japanese fans around 2004-2005. I think "points" refers to how many people identified each character as their particular favorite, but I'm not sure.

1. Goku: 6,235 points
2. Vegeta: 2,527 points
3. Gohan: 2,131 points
4. Trunks: 1,487 points
5. Piccolo: 1,176 points
6. Goten: 798 points
7. Kuririn: 736 points
8. Boo: 421 points
9. Freeza: 324 points
10. No.18: 204 points
11. Mister Satan: 201 points
12. Karin: 185 points
13. Kame-sennin: 172 points
14. Cell: 170 points
15. Yamcha: 163 points
16. Tenshinhan: 125 points
17. Bulma: 112 points
18.No.17: 98 points
19. Yajirobe: 93 points
20. Videl: 86 points

There were also at least two popularity polls that ran during DB's serialization in Jump. One was in Weekly Jump issue #12 for 1993, the same issue of Jump with chapter 411 (the one where Cell self-destructs). The results were:
1. Gohan
2. Goku
3. Trunks
4. Vegeta
5. Piccolo

Another ran in Weekly Jump #05/06 for 1995, the issue with chapter 501 (Gotenks-absorbed Boo beating up on Gohan), and the results were:

1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Trunks
4. Gotenks
5. Piccolo

Toriyama drew pictures of the top 5 characters to go along with these poll results (which is how we know about them; they're mentioned in Daizenshuu 1's index), and for the 1995 poll he drew future Trunks rather than kid Trunks, so it seems that even well into the Boo era future Trunks' popularity remained constant. Meanwhile, Gohan fell right off the charts...
Kanzenshuu: Is that place still around?
Sometimes, I tweet things
We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.

User avatar
Piccolo Daimao
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8749
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:23 am

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:07 pm

Herms wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:I think I heard somewhere that Vegeta is particularly popular in Japan.
*snip*
Hmm...that's interesting. But which one would we go with, for an overall? The first one? I'm surprised that a fusion character was in the top 5 for that last character popularity poll though.
Last edited by Piccolo Daimao on Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.

User avatar
Duo
I Live Here
Posts: 3221
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:14 pm
Location: West Michigan
Contact:

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Duo » Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:14 pm

Goku is just miles ahead of everyone. This explains an awful lot of things in the movies and Gt...

User avatar
Herms
Kanzenshuu Admin Emeritus
Posts: 10550
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:40 pm
Location: Jupiter
Contact:

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Herms » Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:17 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Hmm...that's interesting. But which one would we go with, for an overall?
None of them? All of them? I don't really understand what you mean. Each poll is a measure of which characters were most popular among Japanese fans at different points in time.
Kanzenshuu: Is that place still around?
Sometimes, I tweet things
We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.

User avatar
Makaioshin
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1443
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:51 pm
Location: Kokomo

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Makaioshin » Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:41 pm

Anyone else surprised to see Karin on that list? Especially since he was apparently more popular than Cell, Kame-sennin, Bulma, Yamucha, and Tenshinhan at that point.

Kiyza
Regular
Posts: 681
Joined: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:53 pm
Location: Murrika

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Kiyza » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:48 pm

Makaioshin wrote:Anyone else surprised to see Karin on that list? Especially since he was apparently more popular than Cell, Kame-sennin, Bulma, Yamucha, and Tenshinhan at that point.
Part of me wants to chalk it up to the female readership perhaps being fond of cats... but I don't think that's a good explanation. It is really weird... :?

User avatar
Adamant
I Live Here
Posts: 3370
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2004 1:02 pm
Location: Viking Land

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Adamant » Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:35 am

All of these popularity poll things have a lot of really obscure, one-point characters around the bottom. I guess people are just going "well, he's not my favorite, but I like him, and he deserves all the votes he can get, so I'll toss him one".
Satan wrote:Lortedrøm! Bøh slog min datter ihjel! Hvad bilder du dig ind, Bøh?! Nu kommer Super-Satan og rydder op!

User avatar
Piccolo Daimao
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8749
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:23 am

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:51 am

Herms wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Hmm...that's interesting. But which one would we go with, for an overall?
None of them? All of them? I don't really understand what you mean. Each poll is a measure of which characters were most popular among Japanese fans at different points in time.
I meant one definitive popularity poll, to tell us who's the most popular character of all time. Probably the DB Forever one, it seems to have the most characters and it's after the end of Dragon Ball, when all the characters have been introduced.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.

User avatar
B
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5563
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:15 am
Contact:

Re: Most popular character?

Post by B » Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:04 am

It's Goku.
Keen Observation of Dragon Ball Z Movie 4's Climax wrote:Slug shits to see the genki

User avatar
Hellspawn28
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 15693
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:50 pm
Location: Maryland, USA

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:09 pm

Other then Broly and Cooler, who is the most popular movie character? I hear Super #13 is more popular with Japanese fans then with American fans?
She/Her
PS5 username: Guyver_Spawn_27
LB Profile: https://letterboxd.com/Hellspawn28/

User avatar
Piccolo Daimao
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8749
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:23 am

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:43 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Other then Broly and Cooler, who is the most popular movie character? I hear Super #13 is more popular with Japanese fans then with American fans?
Janemba is the only one that springs to mind.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.

User avatar
caejones
I Live Here
Posts: 3125
Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:37 am
Contact:

Re: Most popular character?

Post by caejones » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:23 am

Risky question, but...
... It seems to me that in North America, Vegeta is extremely popular compared to Japan.
Has this to do more with the dub's handling of Vegeta, or more with American culture over all? Or am I just seeing something that isn't there?
Dr Gero, in Budokai 2 wrote:Go, my Saiba Rangers!
Akira Toriyama, in Son Goku Densetsu wrote:You really can’t go by rumors (laughs).

User avatar
Herms
Kanzenshuu Admin Emeritus
Posts: 10550
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:40 pm
Location: Jupiter
Contact:

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Herms » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:07 pm

caejones wrote:... It seems to me that in North America, Vegeta is extremely popular compared to Japan.
Has this to do more with the dub's handling of Vegeta, or more with American culture over all? Or am I just seeing something that isn't there?
I don't know, Vegeta seems to be very popular in Japan. He's second only to Goku in two out of the three polls I posted, for instance. What evidence is there that he's substantially more popular in the US?
Kanzenshuu: Is that place still around?
Sometimes, I tweet things
We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.

User avatar
Hellspawn28
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 15693
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:50 pm
Location: Maryland, USA

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:31 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Other then Broly and Cooler, who is the most popular movie character? I hear Super #13 is more popular with Japanese fans then with American fans?
Janemba is the only one that springs to mind.
Janemba seems to be popular with american fans, but I'm not sure how popular he is in Japan? Movie 7 is one of the most successful DBZ movies at the box office in Japan, I think Super #13 might be rather popular in Japan but not here in the US with american fans since I notice his fan base here in the US is rather small.
She/Her
PS5 username: Guyver_Spawn_27
LB Profile: https://letterboxd.com/Hellspawn28/

User avatar
caejones
I Live Here
Posts: 3125
Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:37 am
Contact:

Re: Most popular character?

Post by caejones » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:14 pm

Herms wrote:
caejones wrote:... It seems to me that in North America, Vegeta is extremely popular compared to Japan.
Has this to do more with the dub's handling of Vegeta, or more with American culture over all? Or am I just seeing something that isn't there?
I don't know, Vegeta seems to be very popular in Japan. He's second only to Goku in two out of the three polls I posted, for instance. What evidence is there that he's substantially more popular in the US?
Hm, maybe I'm mistaken, then. XD
I did notice that the gap between Goku and Vegeta's popularity in those poles was pretty substantial.
I don't know what it is specifically... but I have this really strong impression that Vegeta is a decent symbol for the US fanbase.
I want to remember popularity figures from the US were brought up somewhere at some point, but I don't remember exactly...
Dr Gero, in Budokai 2 wrote:Go, my Saiba Rangers!
Akira Toriyama, in Son Goku Densetsu wrote:You really can’t go by rumors (laughs).

User avatar
Eire
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1042
Joined: Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:58 pm
Location: The Promised Land
Contact:

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Eire » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:24 pm

Vegeta is the guy who in fact made girl DBZ fanbase :lol: Why Vegeta?

Detailed reason?
To whom can young girls should sigh? To Goku (seen as a kid that need help to be washed?) To dwarf-like Krillin? To Yamcha (he had a chance, until Vegeta appeared). Tien and his pokemon? So only Piccolo, Trunks and Vegeta are left, but that last one have very important psychological advantage.

General reason
He is a prince. Why is it important?
Why Sesshoumaru, why Malfoy, why Aikka, why Legolas, why Zuko? Damned aristocracy.
I'm not kidding. Title or appearance of the prince is for young girls like sweet for ants. No matter that this prince is in fact, poor, homeless, and behave worse than your older brother when you accidentally murder his PC. In early teens every girl still dream about prince on white horse and see him nearly everywhere. I've read ten thousands of romance fics form many fandoms and majority of them seems to be written by using Orwell's kaleidoscopes. Romance between Mary Sue and prince who have just name and some background in common with original. It's nothing bad at all. How do I know that? Figure out. :roll:
That early teens usually grow up, but sentiment stands still.
Per aspera ad astra, man!

Women belong in the kitchen.
Men belong in the kitchen.
Everyone belongs in the kitchen, the kitchen has food

User avatar
T Pac
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 67
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:57 am

Re: Most popular character?

Post by T Pac » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:24 pm

caejones wrote:
Herms wrote:
caejones wrote:... It seems to me that in North America, Vegeta is extremely popular compared to Japan.
Has this to do more with the dub's handling of Vegeta, or more with American culture over all? Or am I just seeing something that isn't there?
I don't know, Vegeta seems to be very popular in Japan. He's second only to Goku in two out of the three polls I posted, for instance. What evidence is there that he's substantially more popular in the US?
Hm, maybe I'm mistaken, then. XD
I did notice that the gap between Goku and Vegeta's popularity in those poles was pretty substantial.
I don't know what it is specifically... but I have this really strong impression that Vegeta is a decent symbol for the US fanbase.
I want to remember popularity figures from the US were brought up somewhere at some point, but I don't remember exactly...
I would tend to agree, speaking anecdotally. I think the reasons you mentioned might have a small impact, but I think a bigger reason is because the majority of US Dragonball fans only know the "Z" portion of the series, and over that part of the series, Vegeta is nearly as prominent as Goku.

User avatar
caejones
I Live Here
Posts: 3125
Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:37 am
Contact:

Re: Most popular character?

Post by caejones » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:44 pm

I would go so far as to say that Vegeta was more promenant in a huge chunk of Namek and the ordeal with Gero's creations. Not only was Goku out of commission, but Vegeta was getting most of the attention, other than occasional Piccolo moments.
Dr Gero, in Budokai 2 wrote:Go, my Saiba Rangers!
Akira Toriyama, in Son Goku Densetsu wrote:You really can’t go by rumors (laughs).

User avatar
Godo
I Live Here
Posts: 3366
Joined: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:25 am

Re: Most popular character?

Post by Godo » Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:31 am

caejones wrote:Risky question, but...
... It seems to me that in North America, Vegeta is extremely popular compared to Japan.
Has this to do more with the dub's handling of Vegeta, or more with American culture over all? Or am I just seeing something that isn't there?
Reason one: Vegeta is HARDCORE.
Reason two: Vegeta's feats and troubles fit very well with almost every HARDCORE Linkin Park song.
Reason three: Vegeta becomes BUFF and MUSCULAR. It makes him cool. The only one cooler than him is BROLY.
Reason four: Vegeta is such a troubled soul and so deep, which makes him AWESOME.
Reason five: He is a goddamn PRINCE. Royalties are awesome.
Reason six: Vegeta is such a bad-ass. Who doesn't want to become as cool as him when they grow up?

Those are the reasons why I think he is popular. We are speaking about fans that are kids here after all, since they make the majority.

Post Reply