Something about Piccolo I don't get?
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Something about Piccolo I don't get?
During the Saiyajian Saga before, Goku arrived, Nappa fired some huge blast at Gohan and Piccolo blocked it but killed himself in the process. From a plot perspective I understand this move. Piccolo has experienced a positive relationship for the first time and Gohan's innocent nature has a strong effect on his natural evil nature. My question is from a logical standpoint WHY DID'T PICCOLO LET NAPPA KILL GOHAN? They've been talking about who has and hasn't been wished back by the dragon balls so why let some one who's death will destroy the dragon balls sacrifice himself for someone who could just be wished back (Gohan)?
Again, I realize why for plot reasons this occurred (so they would have to go to Nemak and Piccolo would have his change of heart) but is there any logical reason to do this?
Again, I realize why for plot reasons this occurred (so they would have to go to Nemak and Piccolo would have his change of heart) but is there any logical reason to do this?
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
He obviously wasn't thinking straight and saying to himself "whatever, if I'm still alive, we have the dragonballs." No, he was thinking "If this brat dies then I've failed." He found someone who he considered a friend, and friends don't let friends die duh
Why wouldn't he do this?
Why wouldn't he do this?
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
Because Gohan was a child who he'd grown to care for. He practically raised him from a brat to a warrior. He likely wouldn't be able to live with himself if he sat there and let Nappa just erase Gohan like it was nothing.
Besides, didn't Vegeta basically tell them the balls would be found on Piccolo's homeworld? Piccolo likely factored this in with his actions. He also likely considered the fact that they had to actually win the battle to even use the dragon balls in the first place. If Gohan is wiped out, then he (Piccolo) is also wiped out, his presence would make no difference. He also got a good glimpse of Gohan's potential power and knew it would be needed for future battles.
Kami also said Piccolo was training Gohan so he could "leave something behind in his own image" just in case he doesn't survive the battle with the Saiyans.
Besides, didn't Vegeta basically tell them the balls would be found on Piccolo's homeworld? Piccolo likely factored this in with his actions. He also likely considered the fact that they had to actually win the battle to even use the dragon balls in the first place. If Gohan is wiped out, then he (Piccolo) is also wiped out, his presence would make no difference. He also got a good glimpse of Gohan's potential power and knew it would be needed for future battles.
Kami also said Piccolo was training Gohan so he could "leave something behind in his own image" just in case he doesn't survive the battle with the Saiyans.
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
If your infant son or daughter is playing in your yard, and suddenly you see someone in their car barreling down the street at 80 mph directly at them, what are you gonna do? Just think, "my husband/wife and I can make another kid, so better this one die than me?" No, of course not. You're going to do anything you can to save your child's life, even at the cost of your own.
Likewise, Piccolo takes the hit for Gohan.
Likewise, Piccolo takes the hit for Gohan.
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
I highly doubt Piccolo had an extensive internal monologue about it. Ultimately his death leads to the course of events that ends Freeza and makes everybody strong enough to even consider coming against Dr. Gero and his creations. Plus it was a badass as hell scene.
Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
Logic wasn't a factor. It was instinct.
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
In short, this is the best answer you'll get for this questionBussani wrote:Logic wasn't a factor. It was instinct.
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
Option 1. kick that wimpy b*st*rd out the way and move 2. Kick Nappa in the face.
Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
The same way a 45 year old man might save his 75 year old father from death by sacrificing himself.Alienman24 wrote:During the Saiyajian Saga before, Goku arrived, Nappa fired some huge blast at Gohan and Piccolo blocked it but killed himself in the process. From a plot perspective I understand this move. Piccolo has experienced a positive relationship for the first time and Gohan's innocent nature has a strong effect on his natural evil nature. My question is from a logical standpoint WHY DID'T PICCOLO LET NAPPA KILL GOHAN? They've been talking about who has and hasn't been wished back by the dragon balls so why let some one who's death will destroy the dragon balls sacrifice himself for someone who could just be wished back (Gohan)?
Again, I realize why for plot reasons this occurred (so they would have to go to Nemak and Piccolo would have his change of heart) but is there any logical reason to do this?
From a logical and rational point of view, he shouldn`t do it. His father is old and doesn`t have as much time to live as he has, and he certainly doesn`t want his son to die for him.
But he might do it. Because he loves him and he might not be able to simply let him die.
With Piccolo is the same thing. In that moment, he simply couldn`t bear the thought of letting Gohan die. So he acted instinctively.
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
Since Piccolo knew that he wasn't strong enough to defeat Nappa and Vegeta, Piccolo figured that Gohan should live, since Gohan had the potential of becoming stronger than himself. Taking into account that if Goku didn't become strong enough to handle Nappa and Vegeta, Gohan would be the ace in the hole. With Goku on the way, Piccolo believed Gohan may be able to tap into that power if Goku's life was on the line (like with Raditz).
Additionally, Piccolo reasoned if Goku came back and found his son dead, there was as much likelihood that Goku would be too distraught to fight effectively, as there was that Gohan's death would motivate him to fight harder. And finally if worse came to worse, if Goku died again, Piccolo thought that would enrage Gohan enough to unleash the power inside of him.
Additionally, Piccolo reasoned if Goku came back and found his son dead, there was as much likelihood that Goku would be too distraught to fight effectively, as there was that Gohan's death would motivate him to fight harder. And finally if worse came to worse, if Goku died again, Piccolo thought that would enrage Gohan enough to unleash the power inside of him.
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
DBZ Abridged brought up a good point when Piccolo's common sense was thinking that he could just grab Gohan without sacrificing himself.
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
Piccolo acted with instinct to save the one person he truly cared for. It doesn't require thinking about; we were basically told it in the story.
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
I'd say same reason why Goku sacrificed himself trying to get rid of the exploding Cell~! >_<
They both had really good intentions, and thought it'd be the best/only option... but they obviously overlooked some details.
They both had really good intentions, and thought it'd be the best/only option... but they obviously overlooked some details.
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I see what you did there.Coola Yagami wrote:WHY DIDN'T YOU DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE???!!111
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
What, the entire Earth exploding and the extremely lucky chance that Cell regenerated from a self-destruction that should've killed him?Geisha wrote:I'd say same reason why Goku sacrificed himself trying to get rid of the exploding Cell~! >_<
They both had really good intentions, and thought it'd be the best/only option... but they obviously overlooked some details.
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
More like the possibility that he could have grabbed Kaio and Bubbles and 'ported back, or at least to Enma's. You know; to safety, so that only Cell would have (or at least probably should have) died.Piccolo Daimao wrote:What, the entire Earth exploding and the extremely lucky chance that Cell regenerated from a self-destruction that should've killed him?Geisha wrote:I'd say same reason why Goku sacrificed himself trying to get rid of the exploding Cell~! >_<
They both had really good intentions, and thought it'd be the best/only option... but they obviously overlooked some details.
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Cell exploded almost immediatly after reaching Kaio`s. There was no time.Dayspring wrote:More like the possibility that he could have grabbed Kaio and Bubbles and 'ported back, or at least to Enma's. You know; to safety, so that only Cell would have (or at least probably should have) died.Piccolo Daimao wrote:What, the entire Earth exploding and the extremely lucky chance that Cell regenerated from a self-destruction that should've killed him?Geisha wrote:I'd say same reason why Goku sacrificed himself trying to get rid of the exploding Cell~! >_<
They both had really good intentions, and thought it'd be the best/only option... but they obviously overlooked some details.
The anime implies there was much time actually, but the manga does this a little better. Goku just has time to say he`s sorry and Cell explodes.
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
Even in the manga, Goku had plenty of time to come back to Earth. My theory is that he was basically committing suicide, since he later says that he'd rather stay dead, because he's like a magnet for bad guys.
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Re: Something about Piccolo I don't get?
I always thought that, he even "kinda" admits it afterwards, what with Cell being a result of Goku destroying the Red Ribbon Army and all.Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Even in the manga, Goku had plenty of time to come back to Earth. My theory is that he was basically committing suicide, since he later says that he'd rather stay dead, because he's like a magnet for bad guys.
Goku had plenty of time, he could have teleported there immediately, but instead he decides to say goodbye to his son, when there's only 4 seconds left , but still enough time to apologize and Cell to yell.
Goku must've talked really fast, or maybe Cell inherited Freeza's ability to not tell time properly