Nicktoons Kai Descriptions on FiOS?

[Suupaa Gohan 2]

Had NO idea what to call this thread so a mod can feel free to rename it if there's something better.

Anyways, I missed both new episodes of Kai last week, and expected them to be rerun last night and tonight as per usual, but instead they started over with the first episode...and I know Nicktoons has been advertising a Thanksgiving weekend marathon of Avatar, DBKai, and that Zevo show as 'leading up to premieres', so I'm figuring that's why and I'll just catch them then. But in any case, I decided to go through the guide on my TV and check the descriptions just in case there'd be a timeslot where the episodes I missed would be rerun.

And I was a little baffled to find this description for tomorrow morning's 7 AM episode...

"With Vegeta, Kuririn and Gohan knocking at death's door, there may be no one left to challenge the invincible Ginyu Special Force; Goku lands on the planet."

"Kuririn" instead of "Krillin"? "Ginyu Special Force"? These are both not the spellings/renderings of the names used by the official English dub...not to mention as an added bonus the mention of death explicitly stated in the description despite the Nicktoons cut trying to shy away from that to variable degrees. Does anyone think maybe a fan is writing the descriptions? I'm also wondering, for anyone else out there with Nicktoons in their TV package (IE, you're not watching off the website) with something other than FiOS, do you have similar or different descriptions? I thought this was an obscure and interesting little find, and so I figured I'd make a topic about it. So...discuss!!

[Innagadadavida]

The way I see it, there are two possibilities. Either the person who writes the description for your service provider is a subbie. Or the person who wrote the description for your service provider knows nothing of the series, looked up a description online, found one for the Japanese version of Kai, and paraphrased that one.

[penguintruth]

It's hardly anything to get excited about, since they're still calling him "Krillin" in the dub.

[Suupaa Gohan 2]

It's hardly anything to get excited about, since they're still calling him "Krillin" in the dub.

I never said I was 'excited' about it, I just found it unusual that the description for the dub episode would be using alternate terms. I don't have a problem with 'Krillin' in any case, and that's how I say it when it actually comes out of my mouth because saying 'Kuririn' in an otherwise English sentence can't come off not sounding awkward. It's an appropriate romanization of Kuririn as I see it, I just thought it was a bit strange to see the spelling used in the description when, as you said, he is clearly called 'Krillin' in the actual episode.

I also considered Innagadadavida's second option, and it makes sense, too.

[SuperSaiyan3Goku]

I *used* to have a "Nicktoons Action" option from VOD, but yeah that fell through.

If it does pop up again, I guess I'll post here if I find anything.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I remember the description for DBZ on my cable TV service using "Saiya-Jin". I also remember them using "Satoshi" for Pokemon, which was even weirder.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Isn't Krillin an acceptable romanization of his name? One of my first threads at Daizex was me asking what Krillin's real name was (I assumed "Kuririn" was some sort of loyalty to how "Krillin" would be pronounced with a Japanese accent, like the people who say that Freeza is actually "Furiza," that Trunks is actually "Torkunksu," that Vegeta is actually "Bejita," and that Dragon Ball Z is actually "Doragon Boro Zetto"). From what I've gathered, there's no concrete answer, and there's a lot of debate as to whether or not his name is "Kuririn," "Krillin," or "Kulilin." For that reason, I simply call him Krillin by instinct since that is how I was introduced to him.

[DemonRin]

I noticed some strange things like this, but never for Dragon Ball. The closest thing to "Odd" on my cable, is that every episode of shows like this list the two highest billed actors on the show, Like for "Smallville" it'd list "Tom Welling, Michael Rosenbaum." for SOME Reason, every single episode lists the cast of DBK as "Justin Cook, Sean Schemmel". That's for EVERY episode from the Saiyan arc through to present. For some reason, Raditz' voice actor is not only (Apparently) in every single episode, but he's important enough to get top billing over the man who plays the main character!

I've noticed some other odd things for other series' though, like when a Miyazaki movie plays on TV. For SOME reason, despite airing the dub, most often the Japanese actors are listed rather than the dub ones.

And at least once while it was on the air, an episode of One Piece was advertised as starring "Mayumi Tanaka, Kazuya Nakai".

All really funny considering these are the DUBS of these movies/shows.

Isn't Krillin an acceptable romanization of his name? One of my first threads at Daizex was me asking what Krillin's real name was (I assumed "Kuririn" was some sort of loyalty to how "Krillin" would be pronounced with a Japanese accent, like the people who say that Freeza is actually "Furiza," that Trunks is actually "Torkunksu," that Vegeta is actually "Bejita," and that Dragon Ball Z is actually "Doragon Boro Zetto"). From what I've gathered, there's no concrete answer, and there's a lot of debate as to whether or not his name is "Kuririn," "Krillin," or "Kulilin." For that reason, I simply call him Krillin by instinct since that is how I was introduced to him.

"Kuririn" and "Buruma" are two names that are kept that way sometimes because of the name puns.

People complain about "Frieza" Over "Freeza" because it messes up the pun. Likewise, "Bejita" messes up the intended pun because it's based on "Vegetable".

Kuririn = Kuri = Chestnut (Toriyama's Food based puns strike again!)
Buruma = "Bloomers" (Family names puns. Bloomers, Briefs, Trunks, Bra)

Some people prefer to keep it as "Buruma" instead of "Bloomers" because here in the west, we call these Bloomers, while in Japan, they call these bloomers.

"Krillin" and "Bulma" don't carry those puns over. That's the rationality anyway.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Isn't Krillin an acceptable romanization of his name?

Of course. It's not just a FUNi thing. Other dubs use it aswell. Even kanzentai uses it!

[Suupaa Gohan 2]

What was the odd one used in the Big Green dub? Something like Clirin? I'd say it's no less correct than 'Krillin' as a romanization of Kuririn, but it just sounds so...odd. Then again, considering the rest of that dub...

[Mewzard]

I noticed some strange things like this, but never for Dragon Ball. The closest thing to "Odd" on my cable, is that every episode of shows like this list the two highest billed actors on the show, Like for "Smallville" it'd list "Tom Welling, Michael Rosenbaum." for SOME Reason, every single episode lists the cast of DBK as "Justin Cook, Sean Schemmel". That's for EVERY episode from the Saiyan arc through to present. For some reason, Raditz' voice actor is not only (Apparently) in every single episode, but he's important enough to get top billing over the man who plays the main character!

I've noticed some other odd things for other series' though, like when a Miyazaki movie plays on TV. For SOME reason, despite airing the dub, most often the Japanese actors are listed rather than the dub ones.

And at least once while it was on the air, an episode of One Piece was advertised as starring "Mayumi Tanaka, Kazuya Nakai".

All really funny considering these are the DUBS of these movies/shows.

Isn't Krillin an acceptable romanization of his name? One of my first threads at Daizex was me asking what Krillin's real name was (I assumed "Kuririn" was some sort of loyalty to how "Krillin" would be pronounced with a Japanese accent, like the people who say that Freeza is actually "Furiza," that Trunks is actually "Torkunksu," that Vegeta is actually "Bejita," and that Dragon Ball Z is actually "Doragon Boro Zetto"). From what I've gathered, there's no concrete answer, and there's a lot of debate as to whether or not his name is "Kuririn," "Krillin," or "Kulilin." For that reason, I simply call him Krillin by instinct since that is how I was introduced to him.

"Kuririn" and "Buruma" are two names that are kept that way sometimes because of the name puns.

People complain about "Frieza" Over "Freeza" because it messes up the pun. Likewise, "Bejita" messes up the intended pun because it's based on "Vegetable".

Kuririn = Kuri = Chestnut (Toriyama's Food based puns strike again!)
Buruma = "Bloomers" (Family names puns. Bloomers, Briefs, Trunks, Bra)

Some people prefer to keep it as "Buruma" instead of "Bloomers" because here in the west, we call these Bloomers, while in Japan, they call these bloomers.

"Krillin" and "Bulma" don't carry those puns over. That's the rationality anyway.

Well, to an English audience, Kuririn is no more a clear pun than Krillin, same as Buruma and Bulma. Could have named her Bloomers, but hey, the Krillin one wasn't going to make sense as a pun without a full translation.

[JulieYBM]

I have a friend who thought Kuririn's name pun was 'krill' (a fish, I suppose) because of the 'Krillin' spelling. Hence why I prefer to just use 'Kuririn'. Although I have been thinking of using 'Kurilin' for the full pun effect. >_<

[Suupaa Gohan 2]

The way I see it, there are two possibilities. Either the person who writes the description for your service provider is a subbie. Or the person who wrote the description for your service provider knows nothing of the series, looked up a description online, found one for the Japanese version of Kai, and paraphrased that one.

I'm now thinking moreso that this is likely the reasoning behind the titular Kai description, as I discovered this description for a Pokemon episode...

"After Kazunari and Kotone decide to join Ash and his friends on their journey, the group decides to stop near a wind power plant so that Dawn can train for her upcoming contest, but their plans are sidetracked when Kotone's Marill goes missing."

Both Kazunari and Kotone have their Japanese names used, while Ash and Dawn, being more prominent characters, get their English names. So it's probably likely that when charged with writing a description, the person just looks up the episode online somewhere and finds a synopsis to use as reference to avoid having no or a generic episode description (only recently has Kai even gotten descriptions; most often, it's been something like "a young main trains in the martial arts" and so on and so forth in a description that sounds more tailored to original DB). Hell, I was just scanning through Kai descriptions and for the episode "Wilderness Survival!! A Moonlit Night Awakens Gohan" one of the lines in the description is "Saiyan sees his first full moon", implying that 'Saiyan' is the name of a character. So much for the idea that a fan might be behind the considerably accurate descriptions (most of which, I notice, make explicit use of the words 'die', 'dead', and 'kill').

[CODii]

Here's the old thread Paladin mentioned about Kuririn's name.
http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopic.php?p=344736

[SuperSaiyanBatman]

"Krillin" and "Bulma" don't carry those puns over. That's the rationality anyway.

Hasn't Toriyama used Bulma himself, when writing her name in English on her clothing?

[Mewzard]

"Krillin" and "Bulma" don't carry those puns over. That's the rationality anyway.

Hasn't Toriyama used Bulma himself, when writing her name in English on her clothing?

I can't believe I forgot about that! At the start of the series, she's wearing clothing that says Bulma on them. That's, I assume, where it came from.

[JulieYBM]

"Krillin" and "Bulma" don't carry those puns over. That's the rationality anyway.

Hasn't Toriyama used Bulma himself, when writing her name in English on her clothing?

He also wrote 'Well Come' on the sign of Enma the Great's palace. I'm not sure if English was being taught when he went to school, but I don't think he has much training in it.

[SuperSaiyanBatman]

He always wrote Bulma consistently on her clothes, though. So I'd say that Bulma is what it's supposed to be.

[linkdude20002001]

Bulma's always wearing her name in her clothing. And Kulilin wears that Kame-Sen (Turtle Style) hat that says "Kulilin" on it.

[The Time Traveller]

Remember when Gokuh fought the Red Ribon army?

I'd say Bulma is a good way of writing Buruma in English, it's an anagram of Bluma=Blooma=Bloomer=Bloomers!

Just don't say it the way they do in the dub, they say it as Bolma for some reason, it should be like Bull-ma.