A Goku and Gohan What-If

[Nippolyte]

What if Goku and Gohan had entered the ROSAT before Trunks and Vegeta?

A) Would Cell have become complete?

B) Would Goku allow Cell to absorb #18?

C) Would Goku even kill Cell, or would he be merciful?

D) How would this affect everything in the long run?

[Nazi Cola]

I'm not sure if Goku would allow Cell to live or not. I doubt he'd let him attain his perfect form, but he might be merciful.

[Super Vegito]

Goku (or Gohan) would "WTF? Pwned!" Cell, before he could absorb 18. The End.

Oh, and Gohan would never turn SSJ 2, because he'll be focused on school.

[SonGokuh]

Goku (or Gohan) would "WTF? Pwned!" Cell, before he could absorb 18. The End.

Oh, and Gohan would never turn SSJ 2, because he'll be focused on school.

This.

Edit. There would probably be no Buu saga, although Goku, Gohan and Vegeta might still have discovered SSJ2.

[painfuldeath]

Yep, Cell would probably have been beaten before achieving his Perfect form. However, I think if that happened Gohan would have become even stronger on the long run as there is no way Goku would allow Gohan to just study. If you look back on the story, whenever they are together they are training. Thus, it could have taken a while but they would certainly reach the next stage.

[sbk]

A) Cell is very cunning and would find some way to attain his perfect form. He could use Solar Flare on Goku and Gohan and quickly absorb 18.
B) Even though Goku loves a good fight, I doubt he'd be willing to sacrifice 18.
C) Probably merciful if the previous arcs are anything to go by.
D) Assuming he still gets to absorb 18, not much.
But if imperfect Cell is defeated, than Goku would still be alive. Gohan probably would've trained a bit more during the 7 years with Goku still alive. No other world training for Goku, so no SSJ3. Vegeta would not be so desperate to battle Goku as there is no time limit, so maybe no Majin Vegeta either. But other than that, Buu saga could happen as it did.

[Rocketman]

Goku let Freeza reach 100% so he could 'check out the strongest being in the universe at full power'. If Cell tempted him with a good fight, he'd dive for that like a fat kid on a donut.

Perfect Cell would thrash Goku, Gohan would give up upon seeing his dad beat down, Cell would announce the games and Vegeta would go Super Saiyan 2 and kill Cell at those games after Cell kills Trunks.

Vegeta has finally bested Goku, only to find it doesn't really matter. He sits around in a funk for a couple years until he senses SS2 Goku's ki flaring up. Goku beats him, which fires up Vegeta's drive again, this time as self-improvement with Goku as a rival instead of 'gotta beat kakarot!' since he already has.

Without Vegeta's obsession to beat Goku in the time limit or Gohan being stupid, Goku and Vegeta kill Dabura and prevent Buu from being released.

[Hellspawn28]

This what I think what will happen:

Goku would have killed Cell with a Kamehameha wave, and would let #16 and #18 live since he knows that they are truly evil. Vegeta and Trunks will exit out of the ROSAT afterwards, and find out that Goku killed Cell. Vegeta would have been mad and would have fight Goku to see who is stronger. Goku would have won due to the Plot, and Goku would have seen Goten be born afterwards. The chances are that Goku would have learn to become a SSj3, and with Goku alive then Vegeta would never have a obsession to beat Goku in the time limit. So Dabura would have killed Gohan, and Goku would become a SSj2 then kill him. They would have killed Babidi, and Buu would have never been released. I'm pretty sure Movie 8, and 10 would still have made and happen.

So everyone has a happy life afterwards. In GT, no one would have knew about the Black Star Dragon Balls which means Pilaf would have taken over the World then later get killed from Goku or the other Z fighters. No one would have gone into Space which means Bebi would have came to Earth and took over the Universe afterwards.

[In Brightest Day]

This what I think what will happen:

Goku would have killed Cell with a Kamehameha wave, and would let #16 and #18 live since he knows that they are truly evil. Vegeta and Trunks will exit out of the ROSAT afterwards, and find out that Goku killed Cell. Vegeta would have been mad and would have fight Goku to see who is stronger. Goku would have won due to the Plot, and Goku would have seen Goten be born afterwards. The chances are that Goku would have learn to become a SSj3, and with Goku alive then Vegeta would never have a obsession to beat Goku in the time limit. So Dabura would have killed Gohan, and Goku would become a SSj2 then kill him. They would have killed Babidi, and Buu would have never been released. I'm pretty sure Movie 8, and 10 would still have made and happen.

So everyone has a happy life afterwards. In GT, no one would have knew about the Black Star Dragon Balls which means Pilaf would have taken over the World then later get killed from Goku or the other Z fighters. No one would have gone into Space which means Bebi would have came to Earth and took over the Universe afterwards.

Win due to plot? Goku was stronger. The difference between post-Rosat Gohan and Goku and post-Rosat Vegeta, Future Trunks and Piccolo is astronomical. :/

[SonGokuh]

Goku let Freeza reach 100% so he could 'check out the strongest being in the universe at full power'. If Cell tempted him with a good fight, he'd dive for that like a fat kid on a donut.

Perfect Cell would thrash Goku, Gohan would give up upon seeing his dad beat down, Cell would announce the games and Vegeta would go Super Saiyan 2 and kill Cell at those games after Cell kills Trunks.

Vegeta has finally bested Goku, only to find it doesn't really matter. He sits around in a funk for a couple years until he senses SS2 Goku's ki flaring up. Goku beats him, which fires up Vegeta's drive again, this time as self-improvement with Goku as a rival instead of 'gotta beat kakarot!' since he already has.

Without Vegeta's obsession to beat Goku in the time limit or Gohan being stupid, Goku and Vegeta kill Dabura and prevent Buu from being released.

How can Vegeta go SSJ2 during the Cell Games? He wasn't even a MSSJ (which seems to be a major prerequisite).

[dbgtFO]

How can Vegeta go SSJ2 during the Cell Games? He wasn't even a MSSJ (which seems to be a major prerequisite).

It's a what if.
And yes Vegeta was a MSSJ at the Cell Games, he simply wasn't SSJ all the time.

[Piccolo Daimao]

How can Vegeta go SSJ2 during the Cell Games? He wasn't even a MSSJ (which seems to be a major prerequisite).

It's a what if.
And yes Vegeta was a MSSJ at the Cell Games, he simply wasn't SSJ all the time.

That's stupid. Why wouldn't he stay in SSj all the time, following from Goku and Gohan's example?

[Fox666]

Vegeta and Trunks were mere USSJ during the Cell Games, you can tell it just by looking at their muscles when they fight the Cell Jr.

Otherwise, why would the two be so scared of Goku and Gohan power?

[Piccolo Daimao]

Vegeta and Trunks were mere USSJ during the Cell Games, you can tell it just by looking at their muscles when they fight the Cell Jr.

Otherwise, why would the two be so scared of Goku and Gohan power?

As I've mentioned before, I believe that they were something like semi-mastered Super Saiyans, but that's another matter I don't want to get into here.

[dbgtFO]

How can Vegeta go SSJ2 during the Cell Games? He wasn't even a MSSJ (which seems to be a major prerequisite).

It's a what if.
And yes Vegeta was a MSSJ at the Cell Games, he simply wasn't SSJ all the time.

That's stupid. Why wouldn't he stay in SSj all the time, following from Goku and Gohan's example?

Because his name doesn't start with "Go."
Seriously though, Vegeta and Trunks are only SSJs at the Cell Games and since they didn't go into their bulky forms we can only assume, that they are MSSJs.

[Piccolo Daimao]

And yes Vegeta was a MSSJ at the Cell Games, he simply wasn't SSJ all the time.

That's stupid. Why wouldn't he stay in SSj all the time, following from Goku and Gohan's example?

Because his name doesn't start with "Go."
Seriously though, Vegeta and Trunks are only SSJs at the Cell Games and since they didn't go into their bulky forms we can only assume, that they are MSSJs.

But why would Vegeta and Trunks not follow Goku and Gohan's strategy of staying in Super Saiyan all the time to get better accustomed and negate the stress of maintaining the form? Couldn't it be that they started down the road of mastering Super Saiyan, but didn't master it as well as Goku and Gohan, at least not enough to be able to make it permanent?

[dbgtFO]

But why would Vegeta and Trunks not follow Goku and Gohan's strategy of staying in Super Saiyan all the time to get better accustomed and negate the stress of maintaining the form? Couldn't it be that they started down the road of mastering Super Saiyan, but didn't master it as well as Goku and Gohan, at least not enough to be able to make it permanent?

Maybe because they have trained even more, than Goku and Gohan, they don't need to stay in the form to negate the negative effects of transforming.
Either way, they only used the normal SSJ transformation at the Cell Games, and since they didn't use the bulky forms we can conclude, they were MSSJs like Goku and Gohan.
A "semi mastered" level is never implied/stated or shown.

[Hellspawn28]

The only way for Vegeta would have gone SSj2 in the Cell Games where if he really got piss off. I doubt the game games would happen anyways since Goku would have killed Cell quicky before he would done anything.

[Rocketman]

Goku would have killed Cell quicky before he would done anything.

When does Goku ever do that when he could have a good fight out of it.

How can Vegeta go SSJ2 during the Cell Games? He wasn't even a MSSJ (which seems to be a major prerequisite).

Rage over Trunks' death.

[SonGokuh]

Goku would have killed Cell quicky before he would done anything.

When does Goku ever do that when he could have a good fight out of it.

How can Vegeta go SSJ2 during the Cell Games? He wasn't even a MSSJ (which seems to be a major prerequisite).

Rage over Trunks' death.

Didn't happen the first time, did it? Vegeta and Trunks were far behind Goku and Gohan. If they were MSSJ's, they were very weak ones. Vegeta and Trunks also did not display the "relaxed look" or calm demeanor that Goku and Gohan sported.