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JulieYBM
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by JulieYBM » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:48 pm
Having just finished up the Muscle Tower episodes it occured to me that later on Gokû was able to say the other Artificial Humans' names easily. Heck, #16-20 are even more difficult to say than 'Hachi-gô'.
So, would we see 'Jûro-
chan', 'Jûna-
chan', 'JûHa-
chan', 'Jûkyû-
chan' and 'Nijû-
chan', or do you think Son drop honorifics?
Thoughts?
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by Piccolo Daimao » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:53 pm
Goku was able to say the other Androids' names easily because he had matured a lot since then. Heck, in the Boo arc, he knew what the word "symmetrical" meant, which confused Goten and Trunks.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
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by Fox666 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:27 pm
Goku is not a kid anymore... he even exploited Bulma to Dai Kaioshin...

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by JulieYBM » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:31 pm
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Goku was able to say the other Androids' names easily because he had matured a lot since then. Heck, in the Boo arc, he knew what the word "symmetrical" meant, which confused Goten and Trunks.
I guess it's not clear, but this is supposed to be a fun little thread. No need to apply such overt logic to it.

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by Nazi Cola » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:50 am
Fox666 wrote:Goku is not a kid anymore... he even exploited Bulma to
Dai Kaioshin...

Isn't he dead?

CatouttaHell wrote:I guess he's just impossibly powerful and he now gets thrills from letting things go as much to hell as possible before busting out his ultimate power and ending the villain or some shit.
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by Fox666 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:36 am
I tought the old man ("Ro Kaioshin") was a former Dai Kaioshin... now that I looked for, I can't find a source for it...
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by dbgtFO » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:25 am
Fox666 wrote:I tought the old man ("Ro Kaioshin") was a former Dai Kaioshin... now that I looked for, I can't find a source for it...
You're probably referring to the one(or two) instances, where the Elder Kaioshin is called Dai Kaioshin.
In the manga Goku calls him Dai Kaioshin, when the old geezer offers his life to Goku.
And in the anime he's called Dai Kaioshin, when Base Vegetto fights Boo and probably some other episodes.
But in Daizenshuu 7, he's confirmed to be the East Kaioshin of 15 generations ago(IIRC).
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by Piccolo Daimao » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:24 pm
I know Goku was probably just using "Dai Kaioshin" to show respect (since the guy was offering up his life for him), but you could also say he sort of "took" the role of the Dai Kaioshin since East Kaioshin was the only current Kaioshin left and the East Kaioshin from 15 generations ago was much older and therefore much more intelligent than him.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
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by Kroni_Hunter » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:48 pm
Fox666 wrote:Goku is not a kid anymore... he even exploited Bulma to Dai Kaioshin...

He's always done stuff like that. When he was a kid he brought Roshi all the way to Baba's Palace just show him Bulma's goods.
"An optimist thinks that this is the best possible world; a pessimest fears that this is true."
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by dbgtFO » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:52 pm
Kroni_Hunter wrote:Fox666 wrote:Goku is not a kid anymore... he even exploited Bulma to Dai Kaioshin...

He's always done stuff like that. When he was a kid he brought Roshi all the way to Baba's Palace just show him Bulma's goods.
That was Krillin's plan, not Goku's. Goku just did what he was told.
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by Piccolo Daimao » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:55 pm
Kroni_Hunter wrote:Fox666 wrote:Goku is not a kid anymore... he even exploited Bulma to Dai Kaioshin...

He's always done stuff like that. When he was a kid he brought Roshi all the way to Baba's Palace just show him Bulma's goods.
Goku's an adult now, who's banged Chi-Chi at least twice. He said Bulma was hot, asked Kaioshin if he cared if she was middle-aged and said that he didn't offer up Chi-Chi to get felt up because she was flat-chested. He damn well knew why Roshi and Kaioshin liked women by then.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
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by Ranmarotto » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:46 pm
Well, we at least know that he wouldn't be able to address #17, seeing as we only saw them meet at first in GT and that was Super 17.
I think he has matured much beyond the stage of giving things and people goofy names.
Also, nice find Piccolo Daimao, I probably wouldn't have been able to come up with a conclusion like that. It's fun to see Kakkarot's views change as he ages.
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by NeoKING » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:48 pm
I think some of you are confusing "immaturity" with "intelligence." Goku's immature but he's by no means an idiot. If anything, he's a moron.
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by Fox666 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:15 pm
In the anime Goku is a retarded adult, but in the manga he is quite a clever man...

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by Ranmarotto » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:23 pm
Fox666 wrote:In the anime Goku is a retarded adult, but in the manga he is quite a clever man...

I think you might be thinking of GT.
In not considering any filler, Kakkarot doesn't really waver in personality from Manga to Anime form.