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Synth in Ore Wa Tokoton Tomaranai?

Post by songohan619 » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:46 am

My dad and i was listening to Ore Wa Tokoton Tomaranai in the car a while ago, and he said that the Trumpets are synth ones, and not real Trumpets.
Is this true?
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Re: Synth in Ore Wa Tokoton Tomaranai?

Post by cRookie_Monster » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:53 pm

These days its hard to tell. Wavetable synth\sample libraries have gotten to the point where I'm often not sure. That's from someone who has actually written for real orchestra and jazz band (and had it played)

This is 100% synth, even the female singer @2:04.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suQF29h3Dlg

What people do is record real instruments playing every note at different volumes, with different styles. They make MIDI instruments that respond to how hard you play a note by playing a recording of that note at that volume. Then there's different instruments for different styles(called "articulations" in sample library speak). Like there are MIDI instruments for big band trumpets with falling tails on them. So they've recorded every note a trumpet section can play with the notes slurring down at the end. Hard attack strings instruments, slow attack strings instruments, raspy trombones instruments, muted trombones instruments, etc. Combine with someone who knows how to write for real instruments, these tools can create some pretty dern realistic sounding MIDI based recordings. And you never know when it's hybrid, that happens a lot too..."well this piece XXX is all synth, except the flute solo was a friend of mine playing for real." Sometimes the synths sound so good, I can't match the quality with a real instrument lol. You'd need a good hall and million dollar mics and experience recording that instrument to match the library, plus great instruments and players.

So in a nutshell, I wouldn't dare to call it either way ^^. If your dad is a decent trumpet player, I'd probably trust his judgment. I play some trombone and baritone(badly), but have absolutely no lip for trumpet.
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Re: Synth in Ore Wa Tokoton Tomaranai?

Post by songohan619 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:59 am

cRookie_Monster wrote:These days its hard to tell. Wavetable synth\sample libraries have gotten to the point where I'm often not sure. That's from someone who has actually written for real orchestra and jazz band (and had it played)

This is 100% synth, even the female singer @2:04.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suQF29h3Dlg

What people do is record real instruments playing every note at different volumes, with different styles. They make MIDI instruments that respond to how hard you play a note by playing a recording of that note at that volume. Then there's different instruments for different styles(called "articulations" in sample library speak). Like there are MIDI instruments for big band trumpets with falling tails on them. So they've recorded every note a trumpet section can play with the notes slurring down at the end. Hard attack strings instruments, slow attack strings instruments, raspy trombones instruments, muted trombones instruments, etc. Combine with someone who knows how to write for real instruments, these tools can create some pretty dern realistic sounding MIDI based recordings. And you never know when it's hybrid, that happens a lot too..."well this piece XXX is all synth, except the flute solo was a friend of mine playing for real." Sometimes the synths sound so good, I can't match the quality with a real instrument lol. You'd need a good hall and million dollar mics and experience recording that instrument to match the library, plus great instruments and players.

So in a nutshell, I wouldn't dare to call it either way ^^. If your dad is a decent trumpet player, I'd probably trust his judgment. I play some trombone and baritone(badly), but have absolutely no lip for trumpet.
My father does not play the trumpet, but he has played music with trumpet players. My father is one of the best Drummers in Norway.
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