Sagas Original Animation

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Sagas Original Animation

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:37 am

I love seeing new animation re-telling somthing animated years ago, I like to see the differents and how if the show was new today how it would look compared to airing in the 80's\90's.

Does anyone like the new animation better then the old animation? I for one would always love the original because...its the original while I can apreciate the new look at the same time :D

Does anyone know if there is anymore original animation in the game?

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Post by DBW » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:59 am

It all looks really nice except for the image of Vegeta and Nappa. They don't really look right...it's kinda wierd. I also don't care for how Goku and Piccolo look at their first meeting at the 23rd Budokai. They look way too old, like they're from the Cell saga or something.

But yeah, otherwise it looks really good!

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Post by Deus ex Machina » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:12 am

Has anyone actually played the game itself yet? I saw it in the mall today, but I opted for the GTA double pack on X-Box instead. >.>

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Post by lost in thought » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:24 am

Yes, I have, and if you happen to read the topic I started for the game you will see just how bad it is. :(

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Re: Sagas Original Animation

Post by Pedro The Hutt » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:37 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote: Does anyone like the new animation better then the old animation? I for one would always love the original because...its the original while I can apreciate the new look at the same time :D
I kind of prefer the 80s look personally... But of course, that's to be expected since I'm a product of 1984. XD

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Post by SpaceKappa » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:04 pm

I like both looks. However, is it just me or does Raditz's arm look deformed in this picture?

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:02 pm

Yea, it does look odd...

Did you ever get the Budokai 1 import I sent you?

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Post by SpaceKappa » Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:13 pm

Yes I did. I forgot to leave feedback though. :oops: Thanks for reminding me.

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Post by Kodoshin » Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:06 pm

I like the older, more rough style myself. I just feel it has more character than this "super fluid," style that comes off as feeling generic to me.

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Post by The S » Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:20 pm

Just by looking at the screenshots, I'm totally blown away by how cool the game's opening sequence is. By far my favorite DBZ opening thus far.
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Post by SonGokuGT » Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:30 pm

It was cool but I just don't like the little flaws in it... there's lots...

proportions seemed off sometimes.

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Post by Detective X » Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:33 pm

I thought I'd be able to buy it for a great opening, but I must say, I think this opening blows. Each character looks messed up in their special sort of way. I feel let down.

I definitely won't be buying this game. I'll just go back and play Budokai 3 or download Bid For Power.
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Post by Rainking187 » Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:48 pm

Deus ex Machina wrote:Has anyone actually played the game itself yet? I saw it in the mall today, but I opted for the GTA double pack on X-Box instead. >.>
Ugh. Why?

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Post by lost in thought » Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:10 pm

The S wrote: Just by looking at the screenshots, I'm totally blown away by how cool the game's opening sequence is. By far my favorite DBZ opening thus far.
It's not actually the opening, the 'real' opening is just a static image of "DragonBall Z" (the actual logo,) with "Sagas" under it, and a looping cloud image that just kind of rotates... But if you let the screen sit for a minute, you will see about a minute or so's worth of gameplay footage that is easily forgettable.

This "Opening" as Mike called it, is actually a reasonbly long 'clip show' movie that serves as the introduction for the first quest/saga, involving Raditz. Which once it finishes, leads to a thoroughly boring level, with a mundane design, horrible camera, and forced conflicts with several series' of Saibamen that you can't avoid; you can't do anything but follow the single path either... it's bullshit, and whats worse, when you get to the 'next level' that is for Vegeta, and Nappa, you get the same set of circumstances but on a wider scope, and forced to collect poorly hidden dragon balls, while being attacked by these giant Saibamen who gang up 2+ at a time, while the smaller ones crowd around you... and to top it off, the introduction movie isn't even in the same style- it looks like it was just ripped from the series.

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Don't buy it. If you must play it, rent it, but I think you would personally be better off if you ignored it entirely.

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:36 pm

Yeah, technically it's not the "opening animation" in the traditional sense. It's just the first intro for "Chapter 1". At the same time, it's obvious that it's quite different than the rest of the cinemas (which are just compositions of actual anime footage), so we'll call it "the intro" ^_~.

And I'm assuming I'm not the only one who's noticed that the footage in all of the cinemas is edited. Raditz is all nice and clean lying there on the ground after being... uhh... yeah.
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Post by Pedro The Hutt » Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:44 pm

That's some tough armour. =D Bouncing a Makankosappo right off and still being spotless at that. I want some!

And when it comes to anime DBZ game intros... of which that I've seen so far, on the net or otherwise... The Budokai 2 one is my fave, most characters look right, and it's just... fun. XD

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Post by Sebastian (SB) » Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:59 pm

lost in thought wrote:
The S wrote: Just by looking at the screenshots, I'm totally blown away by how cool the game's opening sequence is. By far my favorite DBZ opening thus far.
It's not actually the opening, the 'real' opening is just a static image of "DragonBall Z" (the actual logo,) with "Sagas" under it, and a looping cloud image that just kind of rotates... But if you let the screen sit for a minute, you will see about a minute or so's worth of gameplay footage that is easily forgettable.

This "Opening" as Mike called it, is actually a reasonbly long 'clip show' movie that serves as the introduction for the first quest/saga, involving Raditz. Which once it finishes, leads to a thoroughly boring level, with a mundane design, horrible camera, and forced conflicts with several series' of Saibamen that you can't avoid; you can't do anything but follow the single path either... it's bullshit, and whats worse, when you get to the 'next level' that is for Vegeta, and Nappa, you get the same set of circumstances but on a wider scope, and forced to collect poorly hidden dragon balls, while being attacked by these giant Saibamen who gang up 2+ at a time, while the smaller ones crowd around you... and to top it off, the introduction movie isn't even in the same style- it looks like it was just ripped from the series.

Suggestion:
Don't buy it. If you must play it, rent it, but I think you would personally be better off if you ignored it entirely.
Great :( , Now I feel very conflicting emotions upon renting this game. Is it best just to ignore it?. My DBZ fanboygasm tells me no, but my predictions are betraying me at the same time. Is it as bad or even worse than the recent TMNT games?
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Post by lost in thought » Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:51 pm

Sebastian(SB) wrote: Great :(, Now I feel very conflicting emotions upon renting this game. Is it best just to ignore it?. My DBZ fanboygasm tells me no, but my predictions are betraying me at the same time. Is it as bad or even worse than the recent TMNT games?
Don't feel conflicted, there is no reason to get worked up over this game. Anyway, should you rent it? Yes/No? Hard to say... if you want to see the introductory movie in full animation, go ahead, since it's the first thing you see before level1, but if you don't want to be dissapointed by a game and regret spending that $5.00 on it, then don't. I've been telling people that it might be best to ignore it, so it doesn't taint their perception of DragonBall games (which it is fully capable of doing, sine people ignore the company that developed it, and put the blame souly on Atari, who'se fault it is only half.)

As far as the TMNT games go, the first one was pretty much the same as this in many concievable ways, but it was a little more fun to boot, but easily forgettable as a game of that franchise.

And about your "Fanboygasm," get rid of it, you'll be better rounded when it comes to games that don't appreciate in their value, than you will being over excited about everything from a specific franchise from the get-go. Look at Sagas, since were on the topic, people were doing the 'gasm' thing since the first details (and ultimately the last,) were released; things only seemed to quite down (not a lot, though,) when people began nitpicking every quality of the ingame movies GameSpot would put up, and then became the heated discussions about stupid things like Piccolo's ears, or how they mislabeled Piccolo as Recuume, or some shit like that...
In the end I would say it's easier just to not get your hopes up about these sorts of things, or you'll let yourself down when it doesn't turn out exactly as you would have hoped (Fable comes to mind,) and when we get into the Anime department of gaming (out of the ones we actually GET,) we really have hit or miss.

Biased reviewers have been dogging the Budokai series from day one, as well as the other releases of the series, but really the only one to really recieve an accurate review was "Taiketsu," which was bad, but like the biased reviewers they are, every DragonBall game we get is picked apart so they can afford to give it a bad review because they don't like it; thats probably a good reason why not to have someone review a game if they hate it's source material...

At the end of the day people tell you not to judge a book by it's cover, but for Sagas that isn't a possibility, no ad marketing, opinions detailing it's down falls, you've got to look right at it and be like: "Fuck they're right!"

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Post by The S » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:59 pm

Is it as bad or even worse than the recent TMNT games?
Dude, the newest TMNT fucking rocked. What're you on?

Anyway, I'm still getting Sagas... eventually. Love beat 'em ups, no matter how cheesy they are.
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Post by lost in thought » Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:28 am

The S wrote:Dude, the newest TMNT fucking rocked. What're you on?
Is it really that good?

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