How strong was Gohan after the 3 year training period?

SSJ YUSUKE · Post by **SSJ YUSUKE** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:19 am

I've always wondered how strong Gohan was after training for the androids, was he stronger then the humans like Tienshinhan or Kurririn? or was he on a similar level to them like on Namek?

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:24 am

Far stronger than the humans, so much weaker than Piccolo he's useless.

Although I do wonder how much of 'don't try to fight them' was Piccolo remembering that Gohan escapes the Androids and trying to leave that possibility open.

Fox666 · Post by **Fox666** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:41 am

Gohan was useless against any opponent, so you can't tell.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:14 am

Gohan was pretty much useless than everybody but Yamcha. I would say he and Krillin are probably at the same level like they are during the Namek events.

Dabooyaka · Post by **Dabooyaka** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:14 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:Gohan was pretty much useless than everybody but Yamcha. I would say he and Krillin are probably at the same level like they are during the Namek events.

I would not go that far, Gohan surpassed Kuririn when they were on planet Namek. Gohan was able to tangle with freeza, Kuririn could not do that with first from Freeza. Gohan, training with Piccolo, and Goku, probably opened the gap even more.

Nazi Cola · Post by **Nazi Cola** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:19 pm

I'd say at least 30% weaker than Base Goku, since Goku said Gohan would slow him down in the beginning of their RoSaT training (though that could've just meant until he turned Super Saiyan). So if Goku was at 8,500,000, Gohan would be at something like 5,950,000. But that's just my take on it. He's still too weak to do anything useful.

CatouttaHell · Post by **CatouttaHell** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:37 pm

Much weaker than the Earthlings but stronger than Base Goku on Namekusei.

Nazi Cola · Post by **Nazi Cola** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:02 pm

CatouttaHell wrote:Much weaker than the Earthlings but stronger than Base Goku on Namekusei.

If I'm thinking of this correctly, how strong do you have the Base Saiyans getting by this point? If Gohan's > 3,000,000 and the humans are much stronger than that...

CatouttaHell · Post by **CatouttaHell** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:27 pm

Nazi Cola wrote:
CatouttaHell wrote:Much weaker than the Earthlings but stronger than Base Goku on Namekusei.
If I'm thinking of this correctly, how strong do you have the Base Saiyans getting by this point? If Gohan's > 3,000,000 and the humans are much stronger than that...

I have the Earthlings higher than all of the Base Saiya-jins until they train in the RoSaT and reach insanely high levels of power.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:01 pm

Dabooyaka wrote:
Senzu_Bean wrote:Gohan was pretty much useless than everybody but Yamcha. I would say he and Krillin are probably at the same level like they are during the Namek events.
I would not go that far, Gohan surpassed Kuririn when they were on planet Namek. Gohan was able to tangle with freeza, Kuririn could not do that with first from Freeza. Gohan, training with Piccolo, and Goku, probably opened the gap even more.

Gohan indeed got stronger than Krillin on Namek but he didn't get that stronger than him. Whatever he did against Freeza was due his rage boosts. I personally see his 3 year training bring that power out, like his training with Piccolo, which would be pretty low compared to the other fighters but Yamcha and Chaozu.

CatouttaHell wrote:I have the Earthlings higher than all of the Base Saiya-jins until they train in the RoSaT and reach insanely high levels of power.

That is peculiar. I personally only think Tenshinhan stronger than [non-SSJ]Trunks and pretty darn close, whether above or below is open to interpretation, to [non-SSJ]Goku. Since I think their non-Super Saiyan power didn't grown immensely due their training in the RoSaT the fight between Tenshinhan and Trunks as seen in Bojack's movie would be an accurate representation of how I see them in that period of time.

CatouttaHell · Post by **CatouttaHell** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:45 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:That is peculiar. I personally only think Tenshinhan stronger than [non-SSJ]Trunks and pretty darn close, whether above or below is open to interpretation, to [non-SSJ]Goku. Since I think their non-Super Saiyan power didn't grown immensely due their training in the RoSaT the fight between Tenshinhan and Trunks as seen in Bojack's movie would be an accurate representation of how I see them in that period of time.

To each their own. I personally give the Saiya-jins ginormous increases in base power as I use increasingly lower multipliers (I have Boo Arc Base Goku above Cell Games SSjin Goku, etc) and I think the Earthlings get very high power increases, just nowhere enough to catch up to the Super Saiya-jins (and after the RoSaT, the Base Saiya-jins.) I just don't think Tenshinhan and co would really show up if they weren't even as strong as the Base Saiya-jins. Especially since Tenshinhan forced Chaozu not to come because he didn't think he could keep up, meaning he assumed he'd be able to. Thus I don't really have Jinzoningen Arc Tenshinhan that much weaker than Freeza, but that's just me.

SylentEcho · Post by **SylentEcho** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:43 pm

Gohan in my opinion was the fourth strongest. Vegeta was first, Goku second, Piccolo third. If Gohan's got into his rage mode then he would have probably been stronger than Piccolo, but not SSJ Goku and Vegeta.

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:13 pm

Rocketman wrote:Far stronger than the humans, so much weaker than Piccolo he's useless.

Although I do wonder how much of 'don't try to fight them' was Piccolo remembering that Gohan escapes the Androids and trying to leave that possibility open.

In addition, Goku said Gohan would be a good sparring partner once he became a Super Saiyan. However you take that is up to you.

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 · Post by **Super Saiyan Turlast x4** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:09 pm

Stronger than the earthlings, and weaker than everyone else.

I think training with Super Saiyan Goku and Piccolo counts for something.

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:06 pm

SylentEcho wrote:Gohan in my opinion was the fourth strongest. Vegeta was first, Goku second, Piccolo third. If Gohan's got into his rage mode then he would have probably been stronger than Piccolo, but not SSJ Goku and Vegeta.

I can agree with this.

finalwarriordan · Post by **finalwarriordan** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:06 pm

I think gohan was around tien/piccolo(before fusion) befire going into the hyperbolic time chamber

painfuldeath · Post by **painfuldeath** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:45 pm

SylentEcho wrote:Gohan in my opinion was the fourth strongest. Vegeta was first, Goku second, Piccolo third. If Gohan's got into his rage mode then he would have probably been stronger than Piccolo, but not SSJ Goku and Vegeta.

Agreed. I don't know if this is on the manga or not but before they started the 3 year training period Tenshinhan was pretty awestruck at Frieza's ki. Gohan then told him that it got much, much bigger. That considered, Gohan was probably at his strength at that time but just didn't have the experience to use it all. After the three years it would make sense that Gohan would be stronger than Tenshinhan as he was training with both Goku and Piccolo who were stronger than Tenshinhan. Furthermore, it wouldn't be a far stretch to say Gohan was as strong as Goku just before he became a Super Saiyan considering that Goku thought it was possible for him to achieve the transformation.

Fox666 · Post by **Fox666** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:31 pm

Well, it seems that Trunks in the future reached the Super Saiyan while his power was quite low. So it doesn't necessarily means Gohan would be as strong as Goku was when he became a Super Saiyan.

Either way, Tenshinhan never felt something anywere close to Freeza's Ki before. He probably would also be scared of the first form of Freeza (which Piccolo called a "monster" when he landed in Namek) so it isn't a surprise that he is astonished about it, while Gohan is already used to.

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