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Scariest character?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:28 pm

Who do you think was the scariest character? I think first-form Cell was creepy, and, as others have mentioned, he had a horror movie vibe to him as he went around sucking people up into his body. The filler expanded on this well.

I think Super Boo was pretty scary as well, especially when he liquidised himself and went into the man's body, then made him explode from the inside. And the scene where he was going to self-destruct, and he had that foreboding, maniacal face and aura. I think I remember the FUNi dub giving Super Boo a weird high-pitched voice either before or just when he was powering up. His theme in DBZ Ultimate Battle 22 was pretty ominous too.

As was Dodoria, in the scenes where he kills the Namekians. The first time I saw the scene where Dodoria kills Muri, it was quite shocking.
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Post by Eire » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:48 pm

Dodoria seems to be created to scary children-brutal, bad and creepy. The concept of such an overdraw brutality doesn't appeal to me. For me the scariest evil was those calm, polite one that kills with nice smile and white gloves. Zarbon and Frieza when they appeared first time fitted it the most.

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Post by CatouttaHell » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:55 pm

First Form Cell in the end of that episode where he first appeared in the deserted city. #20 and #19 were creepy as fuck too, add in the fact that they can't even be sensed and they'd be GREAT major villains if they stayed around. #17 and #18 were pretty creepy too in the Japanese version. By far the Arc with the scariest villains IMO.

Shin Boo came off as an unpredictable psycho whose next move could never be predicted. His facial expressions are creepy as fuck as is the fact that he turned the Earth into a dead, empty planet so I agree on him being scary.

Old Piccolo Daimao was creepy as fuck. That scene where caused Son Goku's heart to stop was maybe the darkest moment in the entire series by far.
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Post by StarRot » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:56 pm

I used to be really freaked out by Chaozu when I was younger. Creepy little mime thing.
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Not so much the character, but you know the scene where Freeza is chopped in half and just … floating there? That still kinda unnerves me. I’m not easily squicked out or anything, but just something about it … I can’t put my finger on it.
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Post by CatouttaHell » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:03 pm

StarRot wrote:I used to be really freaked out by Chaozu when I was younger. Creepy little mime thing.
Haha. That's one of the reasons I like him so much actually. He was the MAN back in the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc. That filler where it turns out he burned some guy's skin off with the Dodonpa, and him just trying to do the same to Kuririn with absolutely no trace of emotion on his face, plus how he flies around without moving his limbs at all, etc make him a very psychotic, horror movie-esque guy.
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Post by StarRot » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:11 pm

He was the MAN back in the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc.
I've been re-reading the manga, and I've gained a new appreciation for him.
At least during the early arcs.

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Re: Scariest character?

Post by Ahiru77 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:23 pm

CatouttaHell wrote:First Form Cell in the end of that episode where he first appeared in the deserted city. #20 and #19 were creepy as fuck too, add in the fact that they can't even be sensed and they'd be GREAT major villains if they stayed around. #17 and #18 were pretty creepy too in the Japanese version. By far the Arc with the scariest villains IMO.
17 and 18 in the form of goo monsters was pretty messed up. Also add Freeza's Alien form.

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:44 pm

StarRot wrote:
He was the MAN back in the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc.
I've been re-reading the manga, and I've gained a new appreciation for him.
At least during the early arcs.
He was somewhat interesting in the 22nd TB (despite having no personality), being a mysterious, creepy clown-doll guy whose flying technique (along with Tenshinhan's) was also treated as magical and otherworldly, and he actually gave Kuririn some trouble. It's too bad that after that, he pretty much did nothing but hang to Tenshinhan's butt and was barely seen again after the Freeza arc. I give him props for risking his life to wish for Piccolo Daimao's destruction, because that scene actually had quite an impact (along with the Piccolo Daimao arc and everyone else's deaths in general), but his death in the Saiyan arc looked like he was only doing it to save Tenshinhan, was too quick (at least in the manga) and just seemed like Toriyama didn't know what to do with him but toss him out with a self-destruction.
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Post by CatouttaHell » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:05 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:He was somewhat interesting in the 22nd TB (despite having no personality), being a mysterious, creepy clown-doll guy whose flying technique (along with Tenshinhan's) was also treated as magical and otherworldly, and he actually gave Kuririn some trouble. It's too bad that after that, he pretty much did nothing but hang to Tenshinhan's butt and was barely seen again after the Freeza arc. I give him props for risking his life to wish for Piccolo Daimao's destruction, because that scene actually had quite an impact (along with the Piccolo Daimao arc and everyone else's deaths in general), but his death in the Saiyan arc looked like he was only doing it to save Tenshinhan, was too quick (at least in the manga) and just seemed like Toriyama didn't know what to do with him but toss him out with a self-destruction.
It's a shame Bukujutsu went from being a mythical technique that only students of the Crane School, and Piccolo Daimao himself could use to being something everyone and their mother can easily use. Chaozu's potential really got wasted unfortunately. But the same can really be said for anyone but Son Goku, Son Gohan, and Vegeta. Even Kuririn, Tenshinhan, and Piccolo get tossed to the side and forgotten eventually. :(

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:13 pm

CatouttaHell wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:He was somewhat interesting in the 22nd TB (despite having no personality), being a mysterious, creepy clown-doll guy whose flying technique (along with Tenshinhan's) was also treated as magical and otherworldly, and he actually gave Kuririn some trouble. It's too bad that after that, he pretty much did nothing but hang to Tenshinhan's butt and was barely seen again after the Freeza arc. I give him props for risking his life to wish for Piccolo Daimao's destruction, because that scene actually had quite an impact (along with the Piccolo Daimao arc and everyone else's deaths in general), but his death in the Saiyan arc looked like he was only doing it to save Tenshinhan, was too quick (at least in the manga) and just seemed like Toriyama didn't know what to do with him but toss him out with a self-destruction.
It's a shame Bukujutsu went from being a mythical technique that only students of the Crane School, and Piccolo Daimao himself could use to being something everyone and their mother can easily use. Chaozu's potential really got wasted unfortunately. But the same can really be said for anyone but Son Goku, Son Gohan, and Vegeta. Even Kuririn, Tenshinhan, and Piccolo get tossed to the side and forgotten eventually. :(

One big reason I like Dragonball a lot more than Z.
Yeah, I like Dragon Ball more than Z (or "I like pre-23rd TB DB better than post-23rd TB DB better") too, because I find it to be an overall better story, alongside other things.

And I don't think Chaozu ever had potential in the first place, to be honest. I think he was entirely introduced to be a partner to Tenshinhan, to balance out the Kame-Tsuru stakes at the 22nd TB and, perhaps, to give more depth to Tenshinhan's character, since it kept him from being a fighting drone.

I don't think Piccolo was tossed to the side either. He seemed perfectly suited in his role of mentor to the kids, and his antics with Gotenks were entertaining, which more than made up for his absence on the battlefront. And at least Kuririn had a main role up until the Freeza arc, and then a little supplot (which wasn't needed, but whatever) with #18. Tenshinhan, however, was once considered by Kame-sennin to be "one of the best four in the world", yet he's pretty much just a sideliner post-Freeza arc and, by the Cell arc, it's a wonder he was ever a rival of Goku, since he's about as useless as Kuririn and Yamcha.
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Post by Michsi » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:18 pm

I find Daimao to be pretty scary but that also may be due to Toriyama's artistic style back then, with that slasher smile, prominent fangs, those eyes, he seemed half mad sometimes.
There is also one scene with Piccolo Jr, the one where he screams "the death of the great demon Piccolo by the great demon Piccolo is avenged" after having blasted a hole through Goku's chest, where I think he looked scary as hell. Impossibaly wide mouth, sharp fangs, with blood dripping from them and all over his face, the veins showing from his eyes. The look of absolut rage intensified by his demon like features. Slug people or not, I think the term demon fits both Piccolos better

Cell was scary for me only when his existance was hinted at, and this only in the anime. The anime, together with Kikuchi's score, managed to creat a great horror/mysterie story - like atmoshpere during that time. After his appearance and appearance was revealed he just became another villan to me.

However, a truly scary villain for me was Buu though. There is jus something unnerving about a being that you can't really reason with. He just seemed so unpredicatble and weird, personality wise. And even though far Buu was supposed to be the least evil, that scene where he just took humans from around and turned them into clay for his house was freaky. And that scene where he turns Chichi into an egg and steps on it. And that scene where he kills everybody on the lookout, especially in the maga where we don't actually get to see it. And the whole turning people into food and eating them (God, I hope that blind kid didn't get to drink that milk...)

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:21 pm

Michsi wrote:I find Daimao to be pretty scary but that also may be due to Toriyama's artistic style back then, with that slasher smile, prominent fangs, those eyes, he seemed half mad sometimes.
There is also one scene with Piccolo Jr, the one where he screams "the death of the great demon Piccolo by the great demon Piccolo is avenged" after having blasted a hole through Goku's chest, where I think he looked scary as hell. Impossibaly wide mouth, sharp fangs, with blood dripping from them and all over his face, the veins showing from his eyes. The look of absolut rage intensified by his demon like features. Slug people or not, I think the term demon fits both Piccolos better
Yeah, I agree. During that final battle (and especially as it came to an end), Ma Junior looked about as crazy and evil as Piccolo Daimao. Well, considering he was Piccolo Daimao...and his son...but whatever. He still looks demonic, vicious and kinda horrific.
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Post by roidrage » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:33 pm

Second form Freeza was creepy in the anime. To hell with that "murderer that's scary because he's calm and polite" shit, he went nuts, drinking Kuririn's blood. I realized only recently when he said "I won't be as gentle because my power is too great to control," he really meant it.

Super Buu and Kid Buu were also cool to watch. I love how he goes from his house to the lookout in about two panels all because he could sense ki. When he yells "BRING!", his mouth stretches to take up about half of the frame and everyone has these frozen, stunned, looks on their faces of pure terror. You can even see little bits of debris fall from Kami's palace, his scream was so loud.
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Piccolo Daimao wrote:Yeah, I like Dragon Ball more than Z (or "I like pre-23rd TB DB better than post-23rd TB DB better") too, because I find it to be an overall better story, alongside other things.

And I don't think Chaozu ever had potential in the first place, to be honest. I think he was entirely introduced to be a partner to Tenshinhan, to balance out the Kame-Tsuru stakes at the 22nd TB and, perhaps, to give more depth to Tenshinhan's character, since it kept him from being a fighting drone.

I don't think Piccolo was tossed to the side either. He seemed perfectly suited in his role of mentor to the kids, and his antics with Gotenks were entertaining, which more than made up for his absence on the battlefront. And at least Kuririn had a main role up until the Freeza arc, and then a little supplot (which wasn't needed, but whatever) with #18. Tenshinhan, however, was once considered by Kame-sennin to be "one of the best four in the world", yet he's pretty much just a sideliner post-Freeza arc and, by the Cell arc, it's a wonder he was ever a rival of Goku, since he's about as useless as Kuririn and Yamcha.
I definitely agree about pre-23rd TB DB having a much better story. I only knew about the Raditz Arc and on for many years so when I first saw and read it from the beginning years ago I gained a much greater appreciation for the series.

Piccolo just seemed horribly out of character in the Boo Arc, even if he did become a good guy. The almighty Piccolo Daimao reduced to being a poor gag character who has to put with Gotenks (I really hate Gotenks.) I really hated Tenshinhan being shafted. He had loads of awesome, original techniques and was a great character but his character development was rushed through madly and then he was dumped to the side and forgotten like everyone else. :(
Michsi wrote:I find Daimao to be pretty scary but that also may be due to Toriyama's artistic style back then, with that slasher smile, prominent fangs, those eyes, he seemed half mad sometimes.
There is also one scene with Piccolo Jr, the one where he screams "the death of the great demon Piccolo by the great demon Piccolo is avenged" after having blasted a hole through Goku's chest, where I think he looked scary as hell. Impossibaly wide mouth, sharp fangs, with blood dripping from them and all over his face, the veins showing from his eyes. The look of absolut rage intensified by his demon like features. Slug people or not, I think the term demon fits both Piccolos better
Yeah Piccolo Daimao and Pre-Fusion Piccolo's facial expressions were priceless. They just had this complete madman/demon vibe to them. I loved seeing Piccolo Daimao smiling right before he exploded from Son Goku's attack. He just looked like he was completely insane floating there with his own blood all over his hands and grinning crazily.

I also love how the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai foreshadowed the confrontation with Piccolo and gradually got more and more unsettling and Ma Junior seemed to slowly but steadily become more and more scary. The climax of course being the scene where he's stomping Son Goku's chest hole with a totally nutty smile on his face.
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Post by Godo » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:15 pm

Ahiru77 wrote:Also add Freeza's Alien form.
Even scarier would be Kuririn's imagination of what Freeza's 4th form would look like (check my avy). :P

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Post by Nineteen » Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:08 pm

This might be odd, but I always found my namesake, #19, to be exceptionally disturbing. He's not visually grotesque, but he looks to me like a cross between a clown and a porcelain doll, and his synthetic voice in the first FUNI dub didn't help matters in the slightest (I still prefer it as it gives him more individual personality). He's effective for many of the same reasons others find Chaozu creepy.
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Post by Codarik » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:03 pm

I always thought Dr Wheelo was scary, he's a giant brain!

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Post by Scarz » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:47 pm

Chichi.



But in all seriousness, Cells first form was pretty creepy. Like you said he had a horror movie vibe going for him.

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Post by Super Vegito » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:05 pm

Japanese version of Broly in Movie 8.

Especially after Vegeta pisses him off and he begins to transform; Broly goes off with a literal ape battle cry, and you can see why Goku, and everyone else are shitting bricks. Broly sounds like a giant ape set loose. D:

English dub made him sound like a big dumb muscle head. Jap nails it.

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:30 pm

Cell in his frist experience was pretty creepy indeed. I really think the anime nails the atmosphere for this guy. I can't imagine how much of a headache he was for Toriyama to draw, though. :P I think the real food of nightmares--however--is Piccolo Daimaô. The shading and coloring work Toriyama did really gave him some depth. The crazed looks were also incredible. Simply incredible:

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Oh heck, another. And some comic relief.

Even Ma Junior had some great expressions.
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