Z Fighters strongest to weakest

[Kirby456]

Hello everyone, rank the Z Fighters from strongest to weakest your personal opinions.

here's my list.

1. Vegito
2. Gogeta
3. Gohan
4. Gotenks
5. Goku
6. Vegeta
7. Piccolo
8. Android 18
9. Trunks
10. Goten
11. Tien
12. Krillin
13. Pan (end of Z)
14. Yamcha
15. Chiaotzu
16. Yajirobe
17. Roshi

Gt

1. Gogeta
2. Goku
3. Vegeta
4. Gohan
5. Majuub
6. Fat Buu
7. Uub
8. Trunks,Goten,Piccolo (Gt episode 7 trunks states he and Piccolo are equals)
9. Android 18
10 Pan (as strong as final form Frieza due to holding down 20)
11. Android 18
12. Tien
13. Krillin
14. Yamcha
15. Chiaotzu
16. Yajirobe
17. Roshi
18. Videl
19. Hercule

Potential wise

1. Goten
2. Gohan
3. Trunks
4. Goku
5. Vegeta
6. Piccolo,Pan (1/4th Saiyan unknown how much potential that is)
7. Android 18
8. Tien,Krillin,Yajirobe (Yajirobe hardly trained yet he got a power level of 970...)
9. Yamcha
10. Roshi
11. Chiaotzu

[GohanSatan]

Isn't Gohan supposed to have the highest potential out of everyone?

[Nineteen]

Isn't Gohan supposed to have the highest potential out of everyone?

Well, no. He's just the only one who ever actually reached his maximum potential, even if by cheating. It's entirely possible Goku would dwarf him if he did the same.

[Godo]

Isn't Gohan supposed to have the highest potential out of everyone?

I think that the reason for that is that in the beginning of DBZ, Nappa and Vegeta have this hypothesis that half-breeds have a higher potential than full-breeds. So people tend to link it to both Gohan's progress and initial battle power, and Goten and Trunks' powers when they were kids.

cheating

The Rou Kaioshin powerup is just as much cheating as:

- Goku drinking the God Water at Karin's tower
- Vegeta and Goku abusing the "Zenkai" (near death powerup)
- Gohan and Kuririn getting their power released by the Namekian Elder
- Goku using the Kaio-ken
- The Saiya-jins using the Super Saiya-jin transformation
- Goten and Trunks fusing
- Goku and Vegeta fusing
- Piccolo fusing with Nail and Kami
- Buu absorbing people
- Cell absorbing people

[Nineteen]

]The Rou Kaioshin powerup is just as much cheating as:

- Goku drinking the God Water at Karin's tower
- Vegeta and Goku abusing the "Zenkai" (near death powerup)
- Gohan and Kuririn getting their power released by the Namekian Elder
- Goku using the Kaio-ken
- The Saiya-jins using the Super Saiya-jin transformation
- Goten and Trunks fusing
- Goku and Vegeta fusing
- Piccolo fusing with Nail and Kami
- Buu absorbing people
- Cell absorbing people

I didn't mean any moral or value judgment by my statement, simply a mere acknowledgement that the power involved was not acquired by training or exercise.

[Godo]

I didn't mean any moral or value judgment by my statement, simply a mere acknowledgement that the power involved was not acquired by training or exercise.

But wasn't it? Goku sensed a huge power dwelling inside Gohan during their ROSAT training. And we know how much trouble he had to bring it out.
We see Gohan doing lots of training without much results compared to Goku and Piccolo.
It could simply be that you already have the hidden power, and have acquired it for yourself (explaining why Gohan didn't get as strong at Namek as he got in the end of Z), but that you can't get it out.
Goku, on the other hand, used the SSJ3 to be able to do that.
Same thing, different methods.

[Michsi]

8. Trunks,Goten,Piccolo (Gt episode 7 trunks states he and Piccolo are equals)

Well, this is an interesting tidbit that I see for the first time. Yet he still does jack shit in that series.



The idea about the individual potential of each character is tricky simply because from what I could tell "potential" translates in the DB word as "strenght" or simply "more ki". While I think Gohan is stronger than his father ki -wise I think Goku is the better fighetr and I see him winning aqainst Gohan.

[Rocketman]

While I think Gohan is stronger than his father ki -wise I think Goku is the better fighetr and I see him winning aqainst Gohan.

'Better fighter' doesn't mean much in Dragonball (yes, including pre-Z). Gohan would stomp anybody except Vegetto.

[SuperForteX]

Except for the Super Buu...

[CatouttaHell]

End of Z
1. Vegetto
2. Gogeta
3. Anime Son Goku
4. Son Gohan
5. Gotenks
6. Son Goku
7. Vegeta
8. Son Pan
9. Son Goten
10. Trunks
11. Piccolo
12. Tenshinhan
13. Jinzoningen #18
14. Chaozu
15. Yamucha
16. Kuririn
17. Muten Roshi
18. Yajirobe

GT
1. Gogeta
2. Son Goku
3. Vegeta
4. Super Oob
5. Oob
6. Son Gohan
7. Son Pan
8. Son Goten
9. Trunks
10. Fat Boo
11. Piccolo
12. Tenshinhan
13. Chaozu
14. Jinzoningen #18
15. Yamucha
16. Kuririn
17. Yajirobe
18. Muten Roshi

Potential
1. Son Goten
2. Son Goku
3. Son Pan
4. Son Gohan
5. Trunks
6. Vegeta
7. Tenshinhan
8. Piccolo
9. Yajirobe
10. Yamucha - Chaozu - Kuririn
11. Muten Roshi
12. Jinzoningen #18

[Rocketman]

Potential

1. Vegetto
2. Goten/Trunks
3. Gohan
4. Goku/Vegeta/Piccolo (I actually think that as a warrior Namek Piccolo would be their equal...but as a Namek he doesn't get all the bonuses to power growth. His potential is the same, but he'll never be able to catch up)

[Kirby456]

End of Z
1. Vegetto
2. Gogeta
3. Anime Son Goku
4. Son Gohan
5. Gotenks
6. Son Goku
7. Vegeta
8. Son Pan
9. Son Goten
10. Trunks
11. Piccolo
12. Tenshinhan
13. Jinzoningen #18
14. Chaozu
15. Yamucha
16. Kuririn
17. Muten Roshi
18. Yajirobe

GT
1. Gogeta
2. Son Goku
3. Vegeta
4. Super Oob
5. Oob
6. Son Gohan
7. Son Pan
8. Son Goten
9. Trunks
10. Fat Boo
11. Piccolo
12. Tenshinhan
13. Chaozu
14. Jinzoningen #18
15. Yamucha
16. Kuririn
17. Yajirobe
18. Muten Roshi

Potential
1. Son Goten
2. Son Goku
3. Son Pan
4. Son Gohan
5. Trunks
6. Vegeta
7. Tenshinhan
8. Piccolo
9. Yajirobe
10. Yamucha - Chaozu - Kuririn
11. Muten Roshi
12. Jinzoningen #18

can you explain how is end of Z Tien above Android 18?,and how is Chiaotzu above Krillin?,last time i checked Chiaotzu was barley over 2000,also can you explain how Pan at that level?,the same with Tien,not trying to be rude its okay if thats your personal opinion.

[VegettoEX]

Please be sure to add some context, reasoning, and valid discussion points to your posts. A list by itself as a list is not a worthwhile post. Thanks.

[Michsi]

wow how is end of Z Tenshinhan above Android 18?,and how is Chiaotzu above Krillin?,last time i checked Chiaotzu was barley over 2000,also Pan is no were near that level of power,putting pan at that level is being a fanboy,the same with Tenshinhan.

You did say personal oppinion. A little "fanboyism" might be included were things are left uncertain.

I don't think Chaozu could be that strong but I could see Tenshinhan getting near or even beyond 18. I don't know if Toriyama would support this but I'd say it's well within the realm on possibilty.

As for me:

Gohan
Goku
Fat Buu
Vegeta
Kibitoshin (although he might be above Vegeta ....)
Piccolo
Trunks
Goten
18
Tenshinhan
Krillin
Yamcha

I usually tend to avoid Fusion characters because I see them as a special case. Tbh, Gotenks, as reckless as he was, was damaging Buu quite nicely so I might place him on the same level or above Goku.

[Kirby456]

wow how is end of Z Tenshinhan above Android 18?,and how is Chiaotzu above Krillin?,last time i checked Chiaotzu was barley over 2000,also Pan is no were near that level of power,putting pan at that level is being a fanboy,the same with Tenshinhan.

You did say personal oppinion. A little "fanboyism" might be included were things are left uncertain.

I don't think Chaozu could be that strong but I could see Tenshinhan getting near or even beyond 18. I don't know if Toriyama would support this but I'd say it's well within the realm on possibilty.

As for me:

Gohan
Goku
Fat Buu
Vegeta
Kibitoshin (although he might be above Vegeta ....)
Piccolo
Trunks
Goten
18
Tenshinhan
Krillin
Yamcha

I usually tend to avoid Fusion characters because I see them as a special case. Tbh, Gotenks, as reckless as he was, was damaging Buu quite nicely so I might place him on the same level or above Goku.

this list sounds good,although are you sure the kids are ahead of 18?,i didn't mean to criticize Catouta Hell,i was just saying i disagree,edited my post above,i also think Yajirobe has high potential,due to him hardly training on Kamis look out,and yet he got a power level of 970.

[CatouttaHell]

can you explain how is end of Z Tenshinhan above Android 18?,and how is Chiaotzu above Krillin?,last time i checked Chiaotzu was barley over 2000,also can you explain how Pan at that level?,the same with Tenshinhan,not trying to be rude its okay if thats your personal opinion.

Besides fanboyism, I have Tenshinhan super strong in the Jinzoningen Arc already because I refuse to believe the Shin Kikoho can be more than a 20x multiplier so I have him continuing to get big gains and he barely surpasses #16 by the End of DBZ IMO. Kuririn stopped training while Chaozu kept training hard with Tenshinhan for 17 more years, 23 if you count GT. I have Chaozu many times stronger than Kuririn by GT personally.

About Son Pan, I'll be honest I'm basing my opinion purely on filler sequence but you said to list how everyone ranks in GT as well so I figured that's okay. In a quick filler-only sequence in the last episode of Z we see Son Pan fighting Son Goten and defeating him with a single slap. I'm a Base Saiya-jins > Piccolo supporter and I think Piccolo didn't quite surpass even the Base Kids (now Base Teens but yeah) by the End of DBZ so it would put Son Pan over Piccolo by my numbers.

Also I base my GT levels on the Toei Chibi Boo Hax so I have GT Base Goku at insanely high levels of power. Son Pan knocked General Rilldo who = GT Base Goku on his arse and actually surprised Son Goku and Trunks with her power. IMO she's in between SSjin 3 Gotenks and GT Base Gohan (Chou Gohan.) I personally don't think Piccolo's getting anywhere near that level without at least 10 or 20 more years of hard training so yeah.

Not saying anything I just said is "right," it's just my personal interpretation.

[Kirby456]

can you explain how is end of Z Tenshinhan above Android 18?,and how is Chiaotzu above Krillin?,last time i checked Chiaotzu was barley over 2000,also can you explain how Pan at that level?,the same with Tenshinhan,not trying to be rude its okay if thats your personal opinion.

Besides fanboyism, I have Tenshinhan super strong in the Jinzoningen Arc already because I refuse to believe the Shin Kikoho can be more than a 20x multiplier so I have him continuing to get big gains and he barely surpasses #16 by the End of DBZ IMO. Kuririn stopped training while Chaozu kept training hard with Tenshinhan for 17 more years, 23 if you count GT. I have Chaozu many times stronger than Kuririn by GT personally.

About Son Pan, I'll be honest I'm basing my opinion purely on filler sequence but you said to list how everyone ranks in GT as well so I figured that's okay. In a quick filler-only sequence in the last episode of Z we see Son Pan fighting Son Goten and defeating him with a single slap. I'm a Base Saiya-jins > Piccolo supporter and I think Piccolo didn't quite surpass even the Base Kids (now Base Teens but yeah) by the End of DBZ so it would put Son Pan over Piccolo by my numbers.

Also I base my GT levels on the Toei Chibi Boo Hax so I have GT Base Goku at insanely high levels of power. Son Pan knocked General Rilldo who = GT Base Goku on his arse and actually surprised Son Goku and Trunks with her power. IMO she's in between SSjin 3 Gotenks and GT Base Gohan (Chou Gohan.) I personally don't think Piccolo's getting anywhere near that level without at least 10 or 20 more years of hard training so yeah.

Not saying anything I just said is "right," it's just my personal interpretation.

every one has there own personal opinions, on Gt my personal opinion is all of the characters got super strong, in Z i have Piccolo stronger then both SSJ Goten and SSJ Trunks by a ton for the whole series (except Gt i have them equal), i also have 18 ahead of the SSj kids pre ROSAT, not saying its right just my personal opinion.

[Michsi]

this list sounds good,although are you sure the kids are ahead of 18?

I place this list somewhere at the end of Z , so yeah, I kinda think post RoSat + 10 years puts Trunks and Goten ahead of 18. Below Piccolo though, since they were obviously slacking of and pretty much lost their interest in fighting.

So to add my own fan preferences to the potential section

Goku
Vegeta
Piccolo
Tenshinhan

Yeah, I'd like to think that those who dedicate their lives to professional warriorism deserve to be put above those who treat fighting and training as a part time hobby (copy pasting myself with this statement .... )

I place Piccolo so high because: 1. awesome techniques, variety of abbilities (the same goes for Ten), 2. waaay longer life span and his basically the youngest from Goku's generation.

[SonGokuh]

I didn't mean any moral or value judgment by my statement, simply a mere acknowledgement that the power involved was not acquired by training or exercise.

But wasn't it? Goku sensed a huge power dwelling inside Gohan during their ROSAT training. And we know how much trouble he had to bring it out.
We see Gohan doing lots of training without much results compared to Goku and Piccolo.
It could simply be that you already have the hidden power, and have acquired it for yourself (explaining why Gohan didn't get as strong at Namek as he got in the end of Z), but that you can't get it out.
Goku, on the other hand, used the SSJ3 to be able to do that.
Same thing, different methods.

I don't remember Gohan huffing or puffing during that idiotic ceremony. I do recall him sitting on his ass,though.

[CatouttaHell]

The kids are way above #18 IMHO. Base Trunks battles evenly with #18 before the RoSaT, and their SSjin forms make Piccolo crap himself. They're strongly implied to surpass their SSjin in their bases (I have Base Gotenks (Post) 5x stronger than SSjin Gotenks (Pre) myself) so IMO Base Goten (Post) >>> SSjin Goten (Pre) >> Piccolo >>> Base Goten (Pre) >= #18

Just my view on the #18/Kids issue.