The Cold Empires after the rulers die?

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The Cold Empires after the rulers die?

Post by Dorexx » Tue May 24, 2011 11:56 am

What do you think happened to Freeza's Empire, Coola's Empire and Cold's Empire after they died?

Did someone else become a ruler?

Did all billions of minions on hundreds (thousands?) of planets just quit their jobs?

Did Goku one day decide to use Shunkan Ido and eradicate every single remains of them? This would make a pretty good training exercise for the androids. (And he wouldn't want to make the same mistake he did with the RR Army, after Trunks just informed him).
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Tue May 24, 2011 1:05 pm

They probably just went on to live normal lives, or probably went crazy and destroyed each other.
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Re: The Cold Empires after the rulers die?

Post by Fox666 » Tue May 24, 2011 4:10 pm

Someone took his place, like in a mafia family.

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Post by Eire » Tue May 24, 2011 4:13 pm

Or, most likely, their minions after long fights broke it into many smaller ones.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue May 24, 2011 4:14 pm

I dunno, rather you think their stories are canon or not, weren't they suggested to take over depending on which you read/watched:
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Post by Eire » Tue May 24, 2011 4:24 pm

Yes, my vote for the cute one :mrgreen:
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Post by Makaioshin » Tue May 24, 2011 5:06 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I dunno, rather you think their stories are canon or not, weren't they suggested to take over depending on which you read/watched:
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Freeza was still alive when Kuriza appeared in Neko Majin. There is also DBO's storyline in which the remnants of Freeza's army join Miira. I don't think it has been said what they did prior to joining him though.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue May 24, 2011 5:16 pm

Makaioshin wrote:Freeza was still alive when Kuriza appeared in Neko Majin.
No, Freeza was revealed to be alive in the chapter Vegeta appeared in, which is the only chapter which doesn't make sense in the least since Freeza was dead before Vegeta became a Super Saiyan. I simply ignore chapter 3, and everything works out fine.
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Re: The Cold Empires after the rulers die?

Post by Makaioshin » Tue May 24, 2011 5:56 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Makaioshin wrote:Freeza was still alive when Kuriza appeared in Neko Majin.
No, Freeza was revealed to be alive in the chapter Vegeta appeared in, which is the only chapter which doesn't make sense in the least since Freeza was dead before Vegeta became a Super Saiyan. I simply ignore chapter 3, and everything works out fine.
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But even so, you can't exactly say that Kuriza was suggested to have taken over when you read Neko Majin as he wasn't.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue May 24, 2011 6:24 pm

Makaioshin wrote:Ah.
But even so, you can't exactly say that Kuriza was suggested to have taken over when you read Neko Majin as he wasn't.
I'm pretty sure you can take it as implied (as long as you ignore chapter 3 and the Freeza references). Simply understanding how that family works seems to be the best hint. The little personality Kurieza shows in the chapter is almost exactly like his father, he probably jumped at the chance to take over the family business as soon as the other three fell. Of course I can't prove it because it isn't stated, but to me, it really doesn't have to be. lol
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Post by Makaioshin » Tue May 24, 2011 6:36 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote: (as long as you ignore chapter 3 and the Freeza references).
And that is why I said you can't exactly say it. If read the story, he didn't take over as Freeza hadn't even died.
That is not to say you can't ignore it for your own personal canon or whatever.

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Re: The Cold Empires after the rulers die?

Post by TheHumblePoet » Tue May 24, 2011 7:58 pm

No doubt it fractured into a series of warring litte kingdoms. Any henchmen with a power level above 15 000 (which is quite an impressive strength) must have taken their chunk and begun fighting the others.

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Re: The Cold Empires after the rulers die?

Post by Godo » Tue May 24, 2011 8:02 pm

I think that there are only two Cold Empire rulers at a time. The master and his apprentice. Together they bring the dark ki into the star systems.
When one disappears, he is promptly replaced. Thus, the evil rulers will forever fight in a battle against good and evil.
The rebels, though, are normal people, lead by the once grand and noble Saiya-jin race. Together, they banded against the Cold Empire and were betrayed.
Now, only a few Saiya-jins remain of which one of them will fight to avenge the death of his bloodline and save the light part of the ki.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed May 25, 2011 12:42 am

Makaioshin wrote:And that is why I said you can't exactly say it. If read the story, he didn't take over as Freeza hadn't even died.
That is not to say you can't ignore it for your own personal canon or whatever.
I don't see a problem ignoring the chapter than causes problems for the actual and currently undefined "canon" either, as Neko Majin Z is nothing more than a gag manga. Dr. Slump is shown to take place on the same Earth as Dragon Ball, yet it would be impossible for a LOT of the events that transpire in Dr. Slump to have happened in the DB. Hell, Arale should have killed the entire population of Earth when she smashed the planet back and forth into Venus and Mars in a matter of seconds, or the time that she cracked the planet almost completely in half and didn't bother to fix it, etc.
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Post by Xyex » Wed May 25, 2011 1:16 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Makaioshin wrote:And that is why I said you can't exactly say it. If read the story, he didn't take over as Freeza hadn't even died.
That is not to say you can't ignore it for your own personal canon or whatever.
I don't see a problem ignoring the chapter than causes problems for the actual and currently undefined "canon" either, as Neko Majin Z is nothing more than a gag manga. Dr. Slump is shown to take place on the same Earth as Dragon Ball, yet it would be impossible for a LOT of the events that transpire in Dr. Slump to have happened in the DB. Hell, Arale should have killed the entire population of Earth when she smashed the planet back and forth into Venus and Mars in a matter of seconds, or the time that she cracked the planet almost completely in half and didn't bother to fix it, etc.
That's where Lunch disappeared to post DB. Super gluing the Earth back together.

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I figure the whole thing fractured with the strongest ones left taking over little sections.

Unless you want to count the stuff in the Garlic Jr. saga where Vegeta was hunting them down for SSJ training. XD
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Post by hleV » Wed May 25, 2011 5:28 am

Godo wrote:I think that there are only two Cold Empire rulers at a time. The master and his apprentice. Together they bring the dark ki into the star systems.
When one disappears, he is promptly replaced. Thus, the evil rulers will forever fight in a battle against good and evil.
The rebels, though, are normal people, lead by the once grand and noble Saiya-jin race. Together, they banded against the Cold Empire and were betrayed.
Now, only a few Saiya-jins remain of which one of them will fight to avenge the death of his bloodline and save the light part of the ki.
I see what you did there.

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Post by Travis Touchdown » Wed May 25, 2011 5:37 am

Makaioshin wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote: (as long as you ignore chapter 3 and the Freeza references).
And that is why I said you can't exactly say it. If read the story, he didn't take over as Freeza hadn't even died.
That is not to say you can't ignore it for your own personal canon or whatever.
There's nothing wrong with ignoring Chapter 3. You have to ignore countless chapters in Dr. Slump because they don't fit or make sense to the rest of the story.
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Re: The Cold Empires after the rulers die?

Post by Kendamu » Wed May 25, 2011 5:59 am

Going by the Jump Special, if Freeza still has remnants running around harassing people, then it just goes to prove that Goku and his friends aren't superheroes. They took care of what they were directly involved in and went back to their normal lives for awhile until some other trouble got in their way.

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Re: The Cold Empires after the rulers die?

Post by Michsi » Wed May 25, 2011 10:28 am

Kendamu wrote:Going by the Jump Special, if Freeza still has remnants running around harassing people, then it just goes to prove that Goku and his friends aren't superheroes. They took care of what they were directly involved in and went back to their normal lives for awhile until some other trouble got in their way.
No, they're not. But I don't think they could have done anything either. Right after Freeza they had to prepare for the Androids and after that , the only full time fighters left were Piccolo and Vegeta and maybe Tenshinhan and from these 3, only Vegeta probably knew his way around the galaxy and I don't see him caring enough.

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