My hatred of Dragonball Kai

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My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by vegetaslegacy15 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:59 pm

Does anyone else despise Dragonball Kai as much as i do?
I don't like the music and I hate the fact that they did not do the scenes over the same way they did the opening.

Also how come they could not get the same voice actors for Gohan and Freeza? That really made me mad.
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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by Xell » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:01 pm

Bracing for shitstorm....

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Post by Dorexx » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:05 pm

I'm glad they didn't animate the series with that animation, and I hope they never use it anywhere else.
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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by vegetaslegacy15 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:08 pm

Lol

It is just when they said it was going to be all new and true to the canon i pictured them doing something no ones every done with DBZ before. Instead they gave us the same exact thing as before except with worse voices for Freeza and Gohan.
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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by Xell » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:13 pm

I'm pretty sure the general consensus is that the voice replacements for Freeza and Gohan in the Funimation dub are great (Freeza's in particular). At least Gohan doesn't sound like he smokes tobacco on a regular basis now.

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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:24 pm

vegetaslegacy15 wrote:Lol

It is just when they said it was going to be all new and true to the canon i pictured them doing something no ones every done with DBZ before. Instead they gave us the same exact thing as before except with worse voices for Freeza and Gohan.
I think Frieza's voice is better in Kai and depending on what you're looking for, I think you can go either way with Nadolny or Clinkenbeard. They're both good for Gohan but in different ways. However, the removal of the Yamamoto score has killed whatever interest I had in Kai.
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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by vegetaslegacy15 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:40 pm

Xell wrote:I'm pretty sure the general consensus is that the voice replacements for Freeza and Gohan in the Funimation dub are great (Freeza's in particular). At least Gohan doesn't sound like he smokes tobacco on a regular basis now.
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vegetaslegacy15 wrote:Lol

It is just when they said it was going to be all new and true to the canon i pictured them doing something no ones every done with DBZ before. Instead they gave us the same exact thing as before except with worse voices for Freeza and Gohan.
I think Freeza's voice is better in Kai and depending on what you're looking for, I think you can go either way with Nadolny or Clinkenbeard. They're both good for Gohan but in different ways. However, the removal of the Yamamoto score has killed whatever interest I had in Kai.
I guess thats true. Its the nostalgia factor that I'm missing I think. I grew up with those voices. But it just feels wrong.
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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:03 pm

Some of the changes are tough to adjust to, but if they're good, they're welcome. Like the some of the Ginyu Force, for example. Captain Ginyu and especially Jeice had better voices than before. I guess Bulma's is good, too, but my problem is that it's a little too one track and she sounds more like the evil math teacher that's the object of every student's disdain in a show about little kids than what I'd imagine Bulma to sound like.
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Post by Rocketman » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:05 pm

Xell wrote:At least Gohan doesn't sound like he smokes tobacco on a regular basis now.
Have you actually heard what a smoker's voice sounds like?

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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by vegetaslegacy15 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:08 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Some of the changes are tough to adjust to, but if they're good, they're welcome. Like the some of the Ginyu Force, for example. Captain Ginyu and especially Jeice had better voices than before. I guess Bulma's is good, too, but my problem is that it's a little too one track and she sounds more like the evil math teacher that's the object of every student's disdain in a show about little kids than what I'd imagine Bulma to sound like.
Thats true they do sound better than before I have to admit. One thing i do sort of like is they took out some of the bad filler. Even though I believe they left the fake Namek filler.
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Xell wrote:At least Gohan doesn't sound like he smokes tobacco on a regular basis now.
Have you actually heard what a smoker's voice sounds like?
I have before lol. Its horrible :x. I have seen a guy with a hole in his throat from smoking before. No joke that shit will kill you.
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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:10 pm

Well you certainly don't have to like the changes in the Kai dub, and I'm certainly not going to belittle you for having an opinion...but be forewarned, you are on a forum that, by far and large, LOVES the changes in the Kai dub.

For why, see my reponse on this thread here.
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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by Xell » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:12 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Xell wrote:At least Gohan doesn't sound like he smokes tobacco on a regular basis now.
Have you actually heard what a smoker's voice sounds like?
Yes, I have. 8)

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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:25 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Xell wrote:At least Gohan doesn't sound like he smokes tobacco on a regular basis now.
Have you actually heard what a smoker's voice sounds like?
Yeah, she sounds nasally, yes, but not raspy.
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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by penguintruth » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:10 pm

I'm sure plenty of brain donors dislike the accuracy in the script and casting in the English dub of Dragon Ball Kai. Not to mention the horrible lack of electronica-rock garbage.

Kai's dub, trying to do the material justice. How awful.
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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:12 pm

penguintruth wrote:I'm sure plenty of brain donors dislike the accuracy in the script and casting in the English dub of Dragon Ball Kai. Not to mention the horrible lack of electronica-rock garbage.

Kai's dub, trying to do the material justice. How awful.
I hate to sound like a junior mod, but you know damn well a post like that is unacceptable:roll:
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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by Codarik » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:22 pm

Throwing in my two cents on why I hate it. There is still a little bit of filler in it. No Buu arc and like others I completely lost interest in it once Yamamoto's music was removed.

The only thing I like about Kai is that it fixed animation errors. If Toei makes the Buu arc and hires a new composer instead of using Kikuchi's music, then maybe I'll start watching the series again.

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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by SSJSteve » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:50 pm

The only thing putting me off buying FUNimations releases are Gohan and Bulma's new voices. I really don't like them, much preferred the old voices. Freeza's new VA is brilliant though, they made the right decision there. I just hope Ocean do a good dub and someone releases it.

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Post by thedarkuniter » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:17 pm

I can't really say I hate Dragon Ball Kai; hate after all is a very strong word. I can go either way with DBZ: DBZ the original for old school feel and the Japanese audio and Kai is for the casual viewing, if I don't want to see filler. As for the new voices, I do prefer them over the original actors. Granted, I like both Japanese and English dubs of Z, however, I felt some voices, especially like Freeza's and younger Gohan sounded off to me. I also prefer Kai's dub over the original Funimation's dub and serves as a replacement for that dub, especially now since it has Kikuchi's score.
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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:33 pm

I initially had mixed feelings towards Gohan and Friez­a's voices, but I've really grown to love Fri­eza's. Definitely the best voice he's had. Gohan's I can tolerate but I'd still rather have Nadolny's. Dating back to when I was kid and Gohan had easily become my favorite character, his voice always stood out to me, and I have a hard time imagining Gohan without it. I can still deal with Clinkenbeard's voice with no problem though, even if it's not the "real" voice to me. Bulma's new voice, though I just don't like (for her).
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
Bulma: Of course! I'm not gonna pull a Frieza and screw it up!
Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
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Re: My hatred of Dragonball Kai

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:41 pm

Don't get me wrong, Monica Rial is a great actor, but...I just can't get used to her as Bulma.

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