Are there any flaws rank wise in this power level list?

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Are there any flaws rank wise in this power level list?

Post by Nex Carnifex » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:48 pm

Like I don't care about if the exact numbers are correct, but like the characters numbers compared to each other. So it says Roshi got stronger after training with Yamcha and Kuririn, is this true? I just want to know if this is accurate.

Here is the list, I can't believe I forgot to post it that was dumb: http://tenshinhanpowerlevels.blogspot.c ... -time.html
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Post by Nex Carnifex » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:55 pm

Also how strong is Yajirobe? Where does he rank among the original Dragon Ball fighters? Is he stronger than Tao?

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Post by B » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:59 pm

Nex Carnifex wrote:Also how strong is Yajirobe? Where does he rank among the original Dragon Ball fighters? Is he stronger than Tao?
Yes. Yajirobe is stronger than most of the cast when he's introduced. I think it's safe to say Krillin and Tenshinhan surpass him before they all become irrelevant.

And I see no list.
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Re: Are there any flaws rank wise in this power level list?

Post by Patient-mental » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:44 am

Firstly, don't double post; it's against the forum rules. Read them.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure the notated "power levels" (described within the Japanese Manga and Anime up to the disuse of scouters) are written in the daizenshuu, which were never released in English.

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Post by Great Saiyaman I » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:00 pm

Patient-mental wrote:Firstly, don't double post; it's against the forum rules. Read them.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure the notated "power levels" (described within the Japanese Manga and Anime up to the disuse of scouters) are written in the daizenshuu, which were never released in English.
While you shouldn't double post, its not actually in the rules. Read them. :P (just kidding)


Anyway, Nex, it would probably help if you posted this list.
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Re: Are there any flaws rank wise in this power level list?

Post by Patient-mental » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:04 pm

It may not be, but it is frowned upon because it technically is attention seeking by bumping exactly the same thread.

Also, I bet there is plenty of lists reguarding this on http://www.daizex.com or even http://www.kanzentai.com

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Post by VegettoEX » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:10 pm

No, we have absolutely no content on Daizenshuu EX what-so-ever comparing the power of anything or anyone.

(Well, maybe you could lump transformations in there, but that's not really what it's about...)
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Post by Patient-mental » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:13 pm

I also bet the Daizenshuu's have plenty of information about them and power levels in them.

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Post by VegettoEX » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:24 pm

Patient-mental wrote:I also bet the Daizenshuu's have plenty of information about them and power levels in them.
Not really. As Herms recently mentioned on the podcast, of the ~1600 pages that the daizenshuu have, a whopping two of them are dedicated to battle powers.

It's just not that important a topic for them to cover.

There are a wealth of other guide books that came out after them, but most of the information is just recycled from the daizenshuu, so you're not going to get anything new in terms of battle powers there.

(Lesson of the day, kids: In general, adding 's to the end of something makes it possessive. When you say "the daizenshuu's", we expect something to come after it. What does the daizenshuu own? They have pages, right, so "the daizenshuu's pages"...? If you want to talk about a singular book, you can just say "the daizenshuu". If you want to talk about multiple books, I would still recommend simply saying "the daizenshuu" -- it's a Japanese word, and it is already plural if you want to leave it that way!)
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Re: Are there any flaws rank wise in this power level list?

Post by Nex Carnifex » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:16 pm

Great Saiyaman I wrote:
Patient-mental wrote:Firstly, don't double post; it's against the forum rules. Read them.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure the notated "power levels" (described within the Japanese Manga and Anime up to the disuse of scouters) are written in the daizenshuu, which were never released in English.
While you shouldn't double post, its not actually in the rules. Read them. :P (just kidding)


Anyway, Nex, it would probably help if you posted this list.
posted it
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Re: Are there any flaws rank wise in this power level list?

Post by dbgtFO » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:42 am

Nex Carnifex wrote:So it says Roshi got stronger after training with Yamcha and Kuririn, is this true?
Yes it's true, Roshi says it himself and I think the other guys comment on Roshi(posing as Chun) having improved.
Ah, tenshinhanpowerlevels.
I remember laughing a lot about his posts, because some of them were really crazy rants that just got more and more ridiculous as he went on(especially considering he isn't communicating with them). Like his Tenshinhan rant. Ah, Good times 8)
As for the ranks, the power level list he's applauding(a guy named Jed) seems fairly accurate concerning the ranks only, though there are some factually wrong stuff:
Fortuneteller Baba Saga

Invisible Man: 5
Dracula: 12
Mummy Man: 18
Satan: 22
Grandpa Gohan: 46
Uranai Baba says her fighters become progressively stronger, so Dracula can't be stronger than the Invisible Man(since the Invisible Man comes after Dracula). Yamcha is also supposed to be stronger than the Invisible Man, so his level can't be 12 either, if Yamcha's only a 7.
Piccolo Daimaio Saga
Yaijirobe: 72

Goku: 70
I'll admit the evidence against this is based on a reaction much more so than a clear statement, but Yajirobe is dumbfounded, when he sees Goku beating up on Tambourine and says something like that he shouldn't mess with him, which given the context implies significant inferiority to Goku IMO.
Raditz Saga

Raditz: 1200
Krillin: 451
Tien: 581
Yamcha: 384
Raditz is stronger than the Saibaimen, stated by Toriyama himself. While the ranks of the others are fine, the levels aren't, because we were already given their levels and have no good reason to doubt those were their full powers.
I didn't find any obvious mistakes concerning rank in the Freeza Arc,(since some of them are debatable) but when I got to the androids arc/Cell arc all those numbers made me confused :lol: so I stopped there.

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Post by Nex Carnifex » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:04 am

Thank you :3

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Re: Are there any flaws rank wise in this power level list?

Post by lash » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:43 pm

Tien: 1,681,327,489
-Kikoho(x582,122): 978,737,720,551,658
-Super Tien: 1,681,327,488,000,000 (Split form into four, which potara twice back into one being)
--Super Kikoho(x2,328,488): 3,914,950,879,878,144,000,000
I just spit up my drink.
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Post by FNF » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:03 pm

lash wrote:
Tenshinhan: 1,681,327,489
-Kikoho(x582,122): 978,737,720,551,658
-Super Tenshinhan: 1,681,327,488,000,000 (Split form into four, which potara twice back into one being)
--Super Kikoho(x2,328,488): 3,914,950,879,878,144,000,000
I just spit up my drink.
That is GT tbh.

Overall I think his scaling quite good. I go along with humans being far stronger than what their given credit for (I have Tien, Kuririn and Yamcha a little higher in the android arc than he does). I just think there are a couple of things;

-Kuririn should be closer to Tien in the Trunks/Android sagas.
-I have Tien >100mill in the Buu Arc
-His interpretation of Piccolo>Kaioshin is wrong.
-Some of his Tien fanboy crap (these stupid fusions and shi) -_-'
-The gap between Kuririn and Yamcha should be much larger in the Android arc.

Other than that its ok. I think he received a little more stick that he should.
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Re: Are there any flaws rank wise in this power level list?

Post by Great Saiyaman I » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:41 pm

lash wrote:
Tenshinhan: 1,681,327,489
-Kikoho(x582,122): 978,737,720,551,658
-Super Tenshinhan: 1,681,327,488,000,000 (Split form into four, which potara twice back into one being)
--Super Kikoho(x2,328,488): 3,914,950,879,878,144,000,000
I just spit up my drink.
I don't think these people realize how big of a number 3 septillion is, let alone several hundred billion. And Tenshinhan of all people would never get that high, to be honest, let alone any character in the series.
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