Inconsistency? (Cell Regeneration)

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Inconsistency? (Cell Regeneration)

Post by Gamingdevil » Mon May 23, 2005 3:47 pm

We all know that Cell can regenerate himself if only a single cell remains. But whe Goku blew him to bits, I find it hard to believe that not a single cell from his upper body survived, thus creating 2 Cells. I mean the separated cells can't possibly know if a larger, easier to regenerate piece of the body still remains.
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Post by El_Diablo » Mon May 23, 2005 5:02 pm

Cell can actually regenerate if the nucleus in his head survives.

That was blown up.

Thus, a plothole.
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Post by *PINHEAD* » Mon May 23, 2005 10:01 pm

Ignoring the plothole, I've found a way to view Cell without any inconsistency. When Son Goku first blasted that Kamehameha at Cell and blew off a good chunk of his body, the majority of Cell's body remained intact. I think that if there are enough cells remaining, he can regenerate. But if he is almost completely gone, he could only regenerate if that one special cell survives.
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Post by Gamingdevil » Tue May 24, 2005 1:45 am

Interesting, but if the nucleus survived 'coincidently' when he blew himself up, it probably also survived the Kamehameha (that must be some pretty strong cell :P) and there remained a good amount of cells, they couldn't possibly know that from each other and would both regenerate, but it didn't.
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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Tue May 24, 2005 5:55 am

The nucleus is in his head, and his head got blown off. Simple plothole.

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Post by Aurek » Tue May 24, 2005 6:31 am

Unless as someone has said, he can regenerate from a large enough amount of mass or the neucleus, which ever exists. Put thats just fan fixing, really its like you say, a simple plothole.

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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Tue May 24, 2005 6:58 am

Well, he said his nucueus needed to survive for his regeneration to work, so I don't think anything else would work. And if somehow part of his nucleus survived when Goku blew off his upper body, and he was able to regenerate from that, he'd grow a new body from the nucleus, not regenerate from the legs.

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Post by Aurek » Tue May 24, 2005 7:03 am

Oh, did he? I forgot that.

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Post by tarsonis » Tue May 24, 2005 11:20 am

It's not necessarily a plothole. There was nothing to indicate that the nucleus always stays in the head, so it's possible that it was somewhere else in the body at the time his head was blown up.

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Post by El_Diablo » Tue May 24, 2005 12:08 pm

He points directly at his head when he says about the nucleus
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Post by Fuujin » Tue May 24, 2005 12:54 pm

I think the point tarsonis tries to make is "The nucleus doesn't have t ALWAYS be in his head. It could be at the time when Cell was explaining how he regenerated, but maybe it's not stationary, and when Goku used Shunkaidou Kamehameha it was somewhere near Cell's legs (now when I think about it...)"

However, there was nothing to indicate that the nucleus was movable, and even if it were, I don't think Cell would point at his head at specifically SAY that it's in his head (which he does according to Polish translation). And if he was fast enough to protect the nucleus from harms way before the Kamehameha, wouldn't, like, DODGING the attack be more effective?

Still, it seems the most plausible way of explaining it.
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Post by Vaeran » Tue May 24, 2005 2:26 pm

Maybe Cell only assumes it's in his head.

My central tenet for explaining away plotholes is "just because a character says something, doesn't mean it's necessarily true". People can be wrong! Freeza, for instance. He's a terrible judge of time. :D

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Post by Rocketman » Tue May 24, 2005 8:55 pm

I blame it on the Gohan fanboys. <.< >.>

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Post by *PINHEAD* » Wed May 25, 2005 12:55 am

Or, perhaps, the nucleus really isn't in his head, but when he regenerated, that's where it was... I don't know, I'm just throwing out ideas. I still view it as what I suggested earlier about regeneration through either the nucleus or enough remaining body mass. Oh well.
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Post by Gamingdevil » Wed May 25, 2005 1:40 am

I don't actually recal him talking about the Nucleus (I think we get the Funi-dub), he just says who only needs a cell (none in particular) to be able to regenerate. He can regenerate as long as his core is intact and every cell in his body is his core.
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Post by Pilgrim Sun » Wed May 25, 2005 7:01 am

This is my idea, because this gene lets Cell regenerate his entire body not just certain parts, then its most likely its a regular cell which is all over the body. Because DNA was taken from all of them (okay not all, but the strongest) including Piccolo, the genes within the DNA which were extracted and combined with other genes to form a unique strand of DNA. This DNA which contains Piccolo's regeneration technique is obviously an important one so Gero being a clever man would probably put the DNA strand in a regular cell that can be found anywhere in the body. This would explain how just one of his cells regenerated his entire body.

Just because he pointed to his head doesnt mean that this cell is IN his head. If you go with the theory I pointed out, it would not matter where he pointed because this regular cell is what makes up his body.

As for the 1st post about the possibility of 2 cells, that is a definate plot hole in my opinion.

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Post by El_Diablo » Wed May 25, 2005 8:25 am

FUNi cut the scene to try and get rid of the plothole
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Post by Xyex » Wed May 25, 2005 9:08 am

They didn't actually 'cut' it, just rephrased it. Had him say, as has been said before, "So long as a single Cell survives I can continue to regenerate" or something like that.
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Post by Gamingdevil » Wed May 25, 2005 1:38 pm

Xyex wrote:They didn't actually 'cut' it, just rephrased it. Had him say, as has been said before, "So long as a single Cell survives I can continue to regenerate" or something like that.
Yes indeed, he said something like "every cell has a life on its own" which would actually mean that any cell could completely regenerate his body, also in his story he never refered to a specific cell, but to a cell.
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Post by tarsonis » Wed May 25, 2005 1:54 pm

Ok..but what does he say in the Japanese version, that it is any cell or a specific one? If I remember correctly, it was the nucleus that has to survive.

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