Dragon balls only having power of creator?

[Mystic Gohan]

That has been bothering me for a really really long time...When they are wishing goku back to fight vegeta, oolong wants to use shenron to kill the saiyans, but he says thats not in my power blah blah blah. I didn't know it was in kami or piccolo's power to bring people back to life. Does anybody else see a problem right there?

[Perfect]

No there isn't a problem. God just can't grant wishes you know, so it's taken in a different context all together. God's power put into the Dragon Balls do not have enough power to kill the Saiyans, but enough to bring back the dead.

[Mystic Gohan]

The why the hell does he need the dragon balls if he has the power to bring back people.

[Perfect]

You're misunderstanding something here. He doesn't have the "ability" to bring people back to life, but he has the "energy" or "power" to bring them back when incorporated via the magic of the Dragon Balls.

[Fox666]

Supposedly bringing Vegeta from the deads it not beyond Kami's power, but killing him is.

[Perfect]

I'd assume wishing someone back is treated the same regardless of one's power, at least that's the way it seems.

[Eire]

But was it a matter of power or of morality?

[Perfect]

Care to elaborate?

[Fox666]

But was it a matter of power or of morality?

Power, it seems. Shenlong can't because the saiyans are more powerfull than Kami.

[Eire]

I've always thought that Dragon Balls were intended for good deeds so they can't kill anyone, not only those with greater power (whatever it means).

[Bussani]

Kami explicitly says in the manga that even he can't bring people back from the dead. When they talk about something being out of the creator of the dragon balls' power, I assume they're talking about their magical power--the power that's used to create the dragon balls in the first place--rather than their fighting power.

[dario03]

I want to know why nobody ever thought "hmmmm can't kill them because they are stronger... ok then, teleport them into a star, or blow up their spaceship, etc, etc"

Maybe theres all kinds of crazy rules that stop the dragon from even indirectly killing people but afaik they don't even try any thing like that.

[Hitiro]

The power it takes to destroy something is a lot more compared to the power to create something. To kill a human it would take a great deal of strength but to create one is another matter. I've always been under the assumption that wishes, with the magic of the dragonballs and the creators power, are able to accomplish certain tasks because they are much easier to do than others. This is why we don't see mass resurrections and teleportations in one wish.

[dantman]

I want to know why nobody ever thought "hmmmm can't kill them because they are stronger... ok then, teleport them into a star, or blow up their spaceship, etc, etc"

Maybe theres all kinds of crazy rules that stop the dragon from even indirectly killing people but afaik they don't even try any thing like that.

Well... it did take a comment from Vegeta for the team to even figure out they could transfer Krillin's spirit from Namek to revive him on earth. The group doesn't seem to be full of the most crafty bunch of people.

[Fox666]

Agree. Like dario03 said, they could just wish for Vegeta and Nappa spaceships explode.

[dario03]

The power it takes to destroy something is a lot more compared to the power to create something. To kill a human it would take a great deal of strength but to create one is another matter. I've always been under the assumption that wishes, with the magic of the dragonballs and the creators power, are able to accomplish certain tasks because they are much easier to do than others. This is why we don't see mass resurrections and teleportations in one wish.

Wait, What? Yeah we do see mass resurrections and teleportations with one wish. And where do you get that it takes more power to destroy than to create?

[Hitiro]

The power it takes to destroy something is a lot more compared to the power to create something. To kill a human it would take a great deal of strength but to create one is another matter. I've always been under the assumption that wishes, with the magic of the dragonballs and the creators power, are able to accomplish certain tasks because they are much easier to do than others. This is why we don't see mass resurrections and teleportations in one wish.

Wait, What? Yeah we do see mass resurrections and teleportations with one wish. And where do you get that it takes more power to destroy than to create?

When do we see a wish that has mass resurrections and teleportations? It has always been one wish to mass resurrect and one wish to mass teleport. Of course it takes less energy to create than destroy, when do you ever need the power of a nuclear bomb to create a person?

[Piccolo Daimao]

I've always thought that Dragon Balls were intended for good deeds so they can't kill anyone, not only those with greater power (whatever it means).

You're forgetting when Shenlong granted Piccolo Daimao's wish for immortality, and that definitely wasn't a good deed, especially considering the fact that Daimao just killed him afterwards. Dragon Gods, and actually, gods in general, are impartial, or at least, they're meant to be. But Dragon Gods should be especially impartial, since they just come out every once in a while, do their job and then go back into the DBs.

[dario03]

Oh ok, i miss read the part about the wish as being mass resurrections or teleportations as one wish. But I still don't see where you get that it takes more power to destroy than to make. You don't need a nuclear bomb to destroy somebody.

[Hitiro]

Oh ok, i miss read the part about the wish as being mass resurrections or teleportations as one wish. But I still don't see where you get that it takes more power to destroy than to make. You don't need a nuclear bomb to destroy somebody.

Yes, you don't need a nuclear bomb to destroy a normal person, but Goku and the others?