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Post by takarajima » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:28 pm

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Re: The History of Dragonball Fansubs

Post by Saiyajin no Tatsujin » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:17 pm

The fansubs that I remember the most were the yellow ones made for the GT series with the "Super5" up in the corner of the screen.

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Re: The History of Dragonball Fansubs

Post by Akumaito Beam » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:24 am

I had literally just put all my DBZ stuff away in my crawl space a week ago thinking I'm officially done with this cartoon for a few years and then you come along with this amazing site and refresh my proverbial nerd boner. I can NOT wait for this thing to get fleshed out with time and I truely hope you keep up with it. You couldn't design a website with a niche topic that piques my interest more than this one if you tried. I am bookmarking this thing so hard. I really hope you aren't going to be put off from working on the site if there's not a huge reaction here, it's totally niche but that's why its so rad. I can't go to Daizex or Kanzentai for this sort of thing and that already puts you 100% above all DB sites that aren't Daizex or Kanzentai.

So...yeah! I'm pretty stoked! I hope you get around to tinkering with it again. :D

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Re: The History of Dragonball Fansubs

Post by DBZ Mick » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:44 am

Thank you! That made for some fascinating reading and watching!
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Re: The History of Dragonball Fansubs

Post by medama_oyaji » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:28 am

Wow, this is really great! Both informative and INCREDIBLY nostalgic. I love looking at all those bonkers Anime Labs messages.

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Re: The History of Dragonball Fansubs

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:35 am

What a blast from the past, some of the cover art I've seen at thrift stores and pawn shops during the mid to end of the 90s.
I mostly remember the SSJ2 Gohan image on VHS cover slips.

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Re: The History of Dragonball Fansubs

Post by sangofe » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:02 pm

Cool site! It's been a decade since I watched VHS fansubs. Thank you for remembering me of how bad they were!

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Re: The History of Dragonball Fansubs

Post by Xell » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:21 pm

It's weird how fascinating of a subject the fansubs of Dragonball are.

Looking back at the terrible quality of the subs and video, it was almost entertainment in itself. I miss those days. :( Gets me all nostalgic..

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Post by takarajima » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:13 pm

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Re: Here is the Real Story of Dragonball Fansubs...

Post by DBZ Mick » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:41 pm

You're welcome, glad you liked it. ^_^

I take it that you came after the fansub era? How does it feel to take a look into the past? What was interesting for you?
Yes, I've never seen a fan-sub VHS before. It was just fascinating reading the whole history and the various groups, clips, bad translations, all those Japanese advertisements...
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Re: Here is the Real Story of Dragonball Fansubs...

Post by bkev » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:14 pm

I wasn't going to comment, but I figure you deserve all the accolades you can get so I just wanted to stop by and say thanks! The '90s fansubs have always fascinated me and I only wish I'd picked one of them up in Chinatown while the places there still sold whatever VHS they had left from olden days T_T. I'm thoroughly impressed. Also, the fact that you provide clips is pretty fun too.
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Post by Ashura » Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:47 pm

Here's some fun stuff "Anime Crisis" did:

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I think overall the translation for movie 4 was good, and a digital script of AC's version is floating around still somewhere.

On the topic of 'quality,' this is how I watched SSJ2 Gohan fighting Cell:

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Not naming names (*cough*Pandora's Cube*cough*), but seriously, a store sold this.

Feel free to reuse any of these shots!
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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:50 pm

Why does it say Anime Crisis if they're Anime Labs? Did they go by different names?

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Re: Here is the Real Story of Dragonball Fansubs...

Post by Ashura » Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:51 pm

Actually, I was just editing that mistake. I'm pretty sure they were different groups. I only think this because Movie 4 seemed to be much better quality all around than any Anime Labs thing I ever saw. I never had anything else 'Anime Crisis' other than this, so I'm not really sure. As an aside, Goku was referred to as Gokuh in their script.
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Re: Here is the Real Story of Dragonball Fansubs...

Post by Saiyajin no Tatsujin » Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:17 am

takarajima wrote:
Saiyajin no Tatsujin wrote:The fansubs that I remember the most were the yellow ones made for the GT series with the "Super5" up in the corner of the screen.
Super5 did things digitally, and they came late compared to the VHS fansubbers, so I didn't give them a section on the site. I do have a tiny section that hints at the beginning of the digital era, with part of a capture of an NGN episode on there, though.

Here's a small snippet of the GT special, which has the Super5 logo, for you: DBGT Super5
Nice. Yep, that's 'em alright. God, I couldn't stand that shit. I got ripped off back in 2001/2 by an anime shop who was selling the entire GT series on VHS. I repeatedly asked them if they were the Super5 digital copies (that I did NOT want), and they assured me they weren't. So when they arrived and ended up being what I did NOT want, you can imagine how pissed I was. I tried getting my money ($50) back from them, but I never did. They ended up getting in trouble for selling pirated material and had to shut down soon after. Oh well.

Your site is awesome, though, man. It brings back a lot of memories. Keep it up! 8)

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Post by medama_oyaji » Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:57 am

takarajima wrote:
Any in particular that you liked?

They do make me laugh...!

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ha ha, you picked a pretty good pair right there. It was always cool when the message for one eye catch related to the next. I also loved seeing the commercials on fansubs. The Poporo spaghetti ads were something that my friends and I would sing in class together in high school, ha ha. I also remember the Tony the Tiger ads where he would say "Guuuuuuuu-reato!"

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Post by kei17 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:14 am

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Interesting. They seem to had used the laser disc release instead of VHS.

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Re: Here is the Real Story of Dragonball Fansubs...

Post by NeoKING » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:39 am

Don't recall ever seeing bad DB/DBZ fansubs, but I do remember watching almost all of GT some summers ago (probably 09 or 010) via the Super5 subs. Funny but interesting stuff. It came to a point where I prefered to watch with those subs instead of the Steve Simmons ones.

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Re: Here is the Real Story of Dragonball Fansubs...

Post by sangofe » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:51 am

I remember some guys called "Ctenosaur video" or something like that were really nice. They sent me their fansubs for only covering up the video, and it was quite easy to say that they had used the laser disc for source, and only copied once. I was so happy to see some of the movies in great video quality, including the Dragonball movie 4. I don't remember anything bad about the subs either, but then again, my english level was really low, and I hadn't been exposed to much Japanese yet.

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Re: Here is the Real Story of Dragonball Fansubs...

Post by Krycek7o2 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:39 am

kei17 wrote:Interesting. They seem to had used the laser disc release instead of VHS.
Most movie fansubs mainly used the Laserdisc releases as their sources. I used to have several of these fansubs and they all had the typical signs of video noise. I'm guessing it was because of the large quantity of anime available on the format back in the day.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't LaserDisc the format of choice to transfer to VHS for fansubbers back in the 90's? This was before my time, I was a wee lil' lad watching DBZ on Telemundo! Ha!

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