If Goku fused with Android 17 or Pikkon against Buu?

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If Goku fused with Android 17 or Pikkon against Buu?

Post by Angelus » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:39 pm

LONG POST ALERT. :twisted:

This would be a hypothetical potara fusion situation of course.

If during the time when Goku was deciding whether to fuse with Mr. Satan or Dende, there were other choices?

For example, Android 17 may have survived the human extinction attack of Super Buu... considering he can't be sensed anyways. Of course, this would also mean that Android 18 and Arale Norimaki won't be hurt as well but... let's not get into a Arale or Android 8 potara fusion with Goku. I mean, wtf? lol

So anyways, If Android 17 somehow got pissed off that someone fired a beam at him, and then tried to find Super Buu just in time when Tien, Gohan, and Goku were fighting Buu, and then just watched... until the time came when Goku had to make a choice of whom to fuse with. Goku can't detect Android 17 but he somehow sees him at a far distance. Goku turns SSJ2 and bolts at Android 17's direction. Puts on the potara earring on Android 17... and they fuse.. into... I dunno... G1k7. LOL!

Jokes aside though, Android 17 is more powerful than 18. Arguably, that might mean thant Android 17 might be equal or near or maybe slightly more powerful than either SSJ Goten and Trunks since Android 18 was able to hold her own against the two kids.. though arguably, it was a tournament fight.. not a fight to the death.

I think that a Goku and Android 17 fusion might have a chance against Gohan Buu. That is, assuming that Android 17 might be slightly more powerful than SSJ Goten or Trunks.

What if this fusion fought Gohan Buu? How would it have ended up? Without absorptions or candy beams, I think this fusion might have a chance.

Now, of course, there was also an option to either fuse with Tien or Chiaotzu. Sure, Chiaotzu was far away, but Goku could have easily sensed him and IT to him. Or do the same with the knocked out Tien. Heck, Yajirobe and Korin were probably still alive by then since they were directly under the look out. Goku could have IT to otherworld and fused with Pikkon or Dabura, but... Pikkon is filler and... Goku won't know that Dabura is "good" now... and gay. lol

Both fusions (Tien-Goku and Chiaotzu-Goku), I think won't last against Gohan Buu unless the Tien-Goku fusion would get a full power Tri Beam hit on Gohan Buu. But how powerful would this fusion with Tien or Chiaotzu would have been? Have a character for comparison.
Interestingly enough, if we take the filler characters Dabura or Pikkon fusing with Goku, how powerful would this have been, and how would they fare against Gohan Buu?
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Re: If Goku fused with other people against Buu?

Post by Saiga » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:51 pm

I think Tenshinhan was actually killed by Boo's kick, so fusing with his corpse wouldn't achieve much. Even if Goku and him fused, I doubt Tenshinhan would make much of a difference to Goku's power so he'd only be able to beat the same forms of Boo that he already could. Same goes for Chaotzu.

Fusing with 17 would probably result in a fusion with incredible base power and infinite energy for SS3, so they'd have a very good chance at being Gohan-Boo.

Now I really want to see what a Goku-17 potara would look like. :lol:
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Re: If Goku fused with Android 17 or Pikkon against Buu?

Post by Fox666 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:36 am

Chaozu probably would not be strong enough, but he would still be better than his other options. Not sure if Goku forget about him or what.

It would be virtually impossible for Goku to find No.17 and vice-versa. In fact Goku doesn't know No.17 was brought back to life (while he had seen Cell expelling No.18).

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Re: If Goku fused with other people against Buu?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:45 pm

Saiga wrote:I think Tenshinhan was actually killed by Boo's kick, so fusing with his corpse wouldn't achieve much.
No, he wasn't. Why would you think that? Gokuu only said, "Tenshinhan's out cold...".

Anyway, Gokuu didn't have enough time, nor was he in the right frame of mind, to sense Chaozu's (possibly comparatively small) ki and teleport to him, or teleport to the afterlife and merge with Paikuhan.

But a Gokuu-#17 fusion wouldn't work, in my opinion. They'd gain #17's infinite energy, but his mechanical parts might cancel out his Super Saiyan forms. Even if they didn't, he's not as compatible as Gohan or Vegeta, who are much closer to his power, so Gohan-Boo would thrash them.
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Re: If Goku fused with other people against Buu?

Post by Saiga » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:50 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Saiga wrote:I think Tenshinhan was actually killed by Boo's kick, so fusing with his corpse wouldn't achieve much.
No, he wasn't. Why would you think that? Gokuu only said, "Tenshinhan's out cold...".
Because I didn't remember that line. :?
Piccolo Daimao wrote:But a Gokuu-#17 fusion wouldn't work, in my opinion. They'd gain #17's infinite energy, but his mechanical parts might cancel out his Super Saiyan forms. Even if they didn't, he's not as compatible as Gohan or Vegeta, who are much closer to his power, so Gohan-Boo would thrash them.
I thought that at first, but then I remembered the Potara is MAGIC and would probably find a way to make both work.
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Re: If Goku fused with other people against Buu?

Post by Fox666 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:49 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:But a Gokuu-#17 fusion wouldn't work, in my opinion. They'd gain #17's infinite energy, but his mechanical parts might cancel out his Super Saiyan forms. Even if they didn't, he's not as compatible as Gohan or Vegeta, who are much closer to his power, so Gohan-Boo would thrash them.
Bulma explained that No.17 and 18 are made completely of organic components except for their shutdown control. And they have, in fact, been made like that way so that they could fuse with another being.

If a Saiyan-human hybrid like Gohan or Trunks can transform in Super Saiyan, I expect a fusion of a Saiyan and a human to be able too. I don't think the power would prevent them from performing the fusion successfully, and No.17 may still be stronger than Goku's regular form.

But the Super Saiyan form may not work in conjunction with the energy reactor, in the sense that the transformation would not increase the part of the power that belongs to No.17.

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Re: If Goku fused with Android 17 or Pikkon against Buu?

Post by Angelus » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:50 pm

Of course, Pikkon wouldn't be an option in the manga since Pikkon doesn't exist in the manga. But in the anime, he could have been a choice, but of course, he won't be because it has to follow the manga-continuity.

However, Chiaotzu was still around. Tien must have left him somewhere. The same way Tien left Chiaotzu somewhere during the Androids fight. Heck, maybe even Yajirobe or Korin must've still been around. Both of which are better choices for fusion that Hercule or Dende. XD

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Re: If Goku fused with other people against Buu?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:12 pm

Saiga wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Saiga wrote:I think Tenshinhan was actually killed by Boo's kick, so fusing with his corpse wouldn't achieve much.
No, he wasn't. Why would you think that? Gokuu only said, "Tenshinhan's out cold...".
Because I didn't remember that line. :?
OK, fair enough. :)
Saiga wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:But a Gokuu-#17 fusion wouldn't work, in my opinion. They'd gain #17's infinite energy, but his mechanical parts might cancel out his Super Saiyan forms. Even if they didn't, he's not as compatible as Gohan or Vegeta, who are much closer to his power, so Gohan-Boo would thrash them.
I thought that at first, but then I remembered the Potara is MAGIC and would probably find a way to make both work.
I think even magic has its limits at times. The Potara isn't perfect, and as Gokuu conjectured, a Gokuu-Satan fusion would barely raise his power and may even make him weaker, which he took over a Gokuu-Dende fusion because Dende wasn't even a warrior. Even if it was less so, I think you'd still get disastrous results trying to merge a full-blooded Saiyan and a cyborg that are nowhere near each other's strengths.

You'd think that a Kaioushin-Kibito fusion would've actually done some good against Boo, going by both their powers alone, but the old Kaioushin immediately shot him down.

As for Yajirobe and Karin...again, Gokuu may've not have had the time or right frame of mind to search for their ki and teleport there before Boo would destroy him.
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Re: If Goku fused with other people against Buu?

Post by In Brightest Day » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:37 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:As for Yajirobe and Karin...again, Gokuu may've not have had the time or right frame of mind to search for their ki and teleport there before Boo would destroy him.
Wouldn't have Yajirobe and Karin been killed when Super Buu destroyed the entire population at the lookout? I guess maybe theirs a slim chance they were able to dodge Buu's blasts, but that seems pretty unlikely seeing as how Tenshinhan and Chaozu were barely able to escape them.

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Re: If Goku fused with other people against Buu?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:57 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:As for Yajirobe and Karin...again, Gokuu may've not have had the time or right frame of mind to search for their ki and teleport there before Boo would destroy him.
Wouldn't have Yajirobe and Karin been killed when Super Buu destroyed the entire population at the lookout? I guess maybe theirs a slim chance they were able to dodge Buu's blasts, but that seems pretty unlikely seeing as how Tenshinhan and Chaozu were barely able to escape them.
I don't know, actually. Tenshinhan and Chaozu were the only ones shown to have dodged them.
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Re: If Goku fused with Android 17 or Pikkon against Buu?

Post by Angelus » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:21 pm

I wonder how powerful a potara fusion of Goku and Chiaotzu would have been. It surely won't be enough to beat Super Buu but... would such a fusion even be able to beat SSJ3 Gotenks?

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