Gohan SSJ2 Kikuchi Kai song question

[superrayman3]

Now that Dragon Ball Z Kai has been entirely released with the Kikuchi score, I was wondering which episodes does the music used in Gohan's SSJ2 scene appear in? I know it appears in episode 96 but I'm not too sure how many other episodes use the track if anyone can help me out I'd really appreciate it.

[dbboxkaifan]

I've heard the BGM being played in the Frieza arc, Cell arc and not entirely sure if it was too in the Saiyan arc, but probably too.

They really fudged up big time with Gohan SSJ2 Kai by not keeping the original theme song intended to play in Kai.

[superrayman3]

I've heard the BGM being played in the Frieza arc, Cell arc and not entirely sure if it was too in the Saiyan arc, but probably too.

Thanks for the info but I need the actual episode numbers for a project I'm working on.

They really fudged up big time with Gohan SSJ2 Kai by not keeping the original theme song intended to play in Kai.

I agree completely but then again Toei screwed up the whole Kikuchi Kai score to begin with, the Yamamoto score fit the show perfectly and then Toei just had to go and screw everything up.

[dbboxkaifan]

This was a quick job so I might have missed (some) scenes where the BGM was also used in.

[TV Cut Edition]

• 01. Scene which Vejita is on the brink of death and then Frieza thinks about Bardock
• 02. Episode 58 - 02:30
• 03. Episode 61 - 09:37
• 04. Episode 65 - 14:17
• 05. Episode 66 - 13:40
• 06. Episode 67 - 09:46
• 07. Episode 73 - 16:45
• 08. Episode 77 - 19:49
• 09. Episode 79 - 16:12
• 10. Episode 80 - 19:07
• 11. Episode 81 - 19:21
• 12. Episode 88 - 02:36
• 13. Episode 91 - 12:26
• 14. Episode 92 - 19:21
  (skipping to episode 95 for now since I don't have episode 94 to check)
• 15. Episode 95 - After Cell's laugh and dialogue the song starts to play

There's plenty more, though.

Well, this is what I've found of the track you wanted and I'm definitely never going to watch Kai again with Kikuchi's score after I'm done with Kai's Part 8 and the BR Dub (I'm not Brazilian but I do enjoy the dub).

Just because Shunsuke Kikuchi composed music for Dragon Ball it doesn't automatically make all of his soundtrack fitting for Kai if it's used inappropriately. -.-

I agree completely but then again Toei screwed up the whole Kikuchi Kai score to begin with, the Yamamoto score fit the show perfectly and then Toei just had to go and screw everything up.

Kikuchi's music shouldn't even have been used to begin with, it just made Kai sound and look old so the point of making it new was lost the moment Kikuchi's score was used.

[superrayman3]

This was a quick job so I might have missed (some) scenes where the BGM was also used in.

[TV Cut Edition]

• 01. Scene which Vejita is on the brink of death and then Frieza thinks about Bardock
• 02. Episode 58 - 02:30
• 03. Episode 61 - 09:37
• 04. Episode 65 - 14:17
• 05. Episode 66 - 13:40
• 06. Episode 67 - 09:46
• 07. Episode 73 - 16:45
• 08. Episode 77 - 19:49
• 09. Episode 79 - 16:12
• 10. Episode 80 - 19:07
• 11. Episode 81 - 19:21
• 12. Episode 88 - 02:36
• 13. Episode 91 - 12:26
• 14. Episode 92 - 19:21
  (skipping to episode 95 for now since I don't have episode 94 to check)
• 15. Episode 95 - After Cell's laugh and dialogue the song starts to play

There's plenty more, though.

Well, this is what I've found of the track you wanted and I'm definitely never going to watch Kai again with Kikuchi's score after I'm done with Kai's Part 8 and the BR Dub (I'm not Brazilian but I do enjoy the dub).

Thanks for your help dbboxkaifan and I don't blame you for not wanting to watch Kai with the Kikuchi score considering it's so limited.

Just because Shunsuke Kikuchi composed music for Dragon Ball it doesn't automatically make all of his soundtrack fitting for Kai if it's used inappropriately. -.-

You refering to how Kikuchi's music was used in this case?

I agree completely but then again Toei screwed up the whole Kikuchi Kai score to begin with, the Yamamoto score fit the show perfectly and then Toei just had to go and screw everything up.

Kikuchi's music shouldn't even have been used to begin with, it just made Kai sound and look old so the point of making it new was lost the moment Kikuchi's score was used.

There's no doubt about that Kai really started to suffer after Yamamoto's music was stripped from the series.

[dbboxkaifan]

Yeah, how Kikuchi was used in Kai.

Even though Kai was dropped at Cell's arc Toei Animation could still have the decency of letting the audience watch the series with its original music.

I probably shouldn't say this but I'm gonna look up on the internet for ways to watch (Japanese) Kai with Yamamoto.

[superrayman3]

Even though Kai was dropped at Cell's arc Toei Animation could still have the decency of letting the audience watch the series with its original music.

You would think Toei would have enough courtesy to do that but no international DB fans got screwed over once again.

[Hades]

Even though Kai was dropped at Cell's arc Toei Animation could still have the decency of letting the audience watch the series with its original music.

You would think Toei would have enough courtesy to do that but no international DB fans got screwed over once again.

That wouldn't be an option, as it hasn't been confirmed by toei or the copyright holders which pieces were infringing, and they may not even know the full extent of the plagiarism. So to avoid the potential of years of expensive legal cases (not just in terms of damages to infringed parties, but also in terms of legal costs), they had to bin the entire thing.

[dbboxkaifan]

Just checked episode 94 and this BGM was used.

[TV Cut Edition]

• Episode 94 - 05:28

I'll try to keep you informed about the eps where I find it.

[superrayman3]

Just checked episode 94 and this BGM was used.

[TV Cut Edition]

• Episode 94 - 05:28

I'll try to keep you informed about the eps where I find it.

Thanks dbboxkaifan.

[dbboxkaifan]

• Episode 22 - http://youtu.be/LN7OhCBYOts (0:24)
• Episode 95 - 01:53

From out of 98 episodes there's 80 with this BGM, I'd say. Maybe 90/98.

I kind of feel sorry for those who're picking up DBZ Kai now and are going to listen to the series with Kikuchi's extremely limited score.