What if Kid Buu didn't blow up the Earth?

[MasterVampire]

So lets just say that after Vegeta and Goku escaped from inside Buu and he then turned into Kid Buu, what would of happened if he never proceeded to blowing the Earth up straight away?

Would have Goku started off fighting Kid Buu as SSJ3, start to get weak from the energy drain but then have Ultimate Gohan wake up and help finish the fight?
Also getting Gotenks to jump in aswell?

I find it hard to believe that Kid Buu would be able to take on Goku, Gohan and Gotenks at the same time.

[Rocketman]

Gohan would annihilate Kid Buu effortlessly.

[Piccolo Daimao]

SS3 Gokuu would fight Pure Boo evenly for a while until Gohan woke up and quickly destroyed him.

[FNF]

Boo remembers how strong Gohan and Gotenks were then he'd absorb them after fighting with Goku for a while.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Boo remembers how strong Gohan and Gotenks were then he'd absorb them after fighting with Goku for a while.

If Gohan and Gotenks remember being absorbed, then they'd be on-guard for that, since both of them were off-guard when Boo absorbed them. And even so, Gokuu could just stall Boo.

[FNF]

Well you say that but Vegeta obviously didn't think it was worth it to teleport them to fight Boo. There must have been some reason.

[Monkey D Goku]

Gohan would hopefully finish Buu quickly like he should have done with Cell and Buu in the first place. Just hope Gohan doesn't suffer from Vegeta syndrome (act like a cocky retard and let the Bad Guy get the upperhand and make the situation 10x worse than it should have been).

[Kroni_Hunter]

That would have actually made an awesome ending. It would have been fun to see all the saiyans kick the tar out of Buu at once, and then form a massive ki attack together to finish him off.

[shonenhikada]

That would have actually made an awesome ending. It would have been fun to see all the saiyans kick the tar out of Buu at once, and then form a massive ki attack together to finish him off.

beat down of the century.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Well you say that but Vegeta obviously didn't think it was worth it to teleport them to fight Boo. There must have been some reason.

Perhaps it's because he wanted the Earthlings for save their own planet for once (which he actually mentioned)? Common sense dictates that Gohan and Gotenks together would definitely be able to destroy Pure Boo, if the former was spanking Super Boo's ass and the latter almost destroyed him before his untimely defusion. Also, for an out-of-universe reason, dramatic effect.

[FNF]

Also, for an out-of-universe reason, dramatic effect.

This is the obvious answer in all honesty. I don't understand how anyone can prefer in-universe explanations to obvious out-of-universe one's.

[Hellspawn28]

They would have just hold Buu off until Gohan wakes up. Gohan would own Kid Buu no different then he did with Super Buu.

[shonenhikada]

They would have just hold Buu off until Gohan wakes up. Gohan would own Kid Buu no different then he did with Super Buu.

Gohan would be doing moon walks while dodging kid buu attacks, and then baby shake kid buu.

[OWmyDragonBallz]

They would have just hold Buu off until Gohan wakes up. Gohan would own Kid Buu no different then he did with Super Buu.

Where is it stated that Gohan can beat Pure boo? Nobody even implied that. Goku already said that Gohan was weaker than Pure boo after he lent all his ki to him.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Where is it stated that Gohan can beat Pure boo? Nobody even implied that. Goku already said that Gohan was weaker than Pure boo after he lent all his ki to him.

Nay. Goku used a Genki Dama, genki is only a portion of what makes up a person's ki, therefore it wasn't Gohan's full power that was donated to the attack.

[OWmyDragonBallz]

Where is it stated that Gohan can beat Pure boo? Nobody even implied that. Goku already said that Gohan was weaker than Pure boo after he lent all his ki to him.

Nay. Goku used a Genki Dama, genki is only a portion of what makes up a person's ki, therefore it wasn't Gohan's full power that was donated to the attack.

You are absolutely right, genki is a portion of a person's ki. But this was the Super Genki Dama, and Vegeta states "we won't take a little bit, we will gather ki right up to their limits". Kaioshin verifies this message when he said "I can't teleport to heal Goku, I am drained up of all my energy" after he raised his hands. So actually, the genki taken from an individual in this situation was most likely about 95-99% of it.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

You are absolutely right, genki is a portion of a person's ki. But this was the Super Genki Dama, and Vegeta states "we won't take a little bit, we will gather ki right up to their limits". Kaioshin verifies this message when he said "I can't teleport to heal Goku, I am drained up of all my energy" after he raised his hands. So the way I see it, the genki taken from an individual in this situation was about 95-99% of it.

You're still missing the point. Genki is a very important part of a person's ki, as donating a large chunk of it will really exhaust you, but it's still just a portion of the overall ki package. Normally Goku only takes insufficient amounts that no one really even notices being taken, but this time around they pushed the limit by asking people to donate the maximum possible. That said, they're still only collecting genki and not all the ki everyone has. As far as we know, 95% of Ultimate Gohan's genki could be only 10% of his full power. We don't have enough information about ki and how it works to make any sort of judgement based on Goku's statement about Gohan's donation, other than the whole above shtick about genki only being a portion of it, blah blah blah, etc.

[OWmyDragonBallz]

You are absolutely right, genki is a portion of a person's ki. But this was the Super Genki Dama, and Vegeta states "we won't take a little bit, we will gather ki right up to their limits". Kaioshin verifies this message when he said "I can't teleport to heal Goku, I am drained up of all my energy" after he raised his hands. So the way I see it, the genki taken from an individual in this situation was about 95-99% of it.

You're still missing the point. Genki is a very important part of a person's ki, as donating a large chunk of it will really exhaust you, but it's still just a portion of the overall ki package. Normally Goku only takes insufficient amounts that no one really even notices being taken, but this time around they pushed the limit by asking people to donate the maximum possible. That said, they're still only collecting genki and not all the ki everyone has. As far as we know, 95% of Ultimate Gohan's genki could be only 10% of his full power. We don't have enough information about ki and how it works to make any sort of judgement based on Goku's statement about Gohan's donation, other than the whole above shtick about genki only being a portion of it, blah blah blah, etc.

That goes completely against Vegeta's word. Genki in general only took a small portion of ki in the past. Again, Vegeta said "we won't take a little bit" "we will gather "KI" right up to their limits". So this was a majority portion. That being said, Gohan gave most of his ki. Your theory doesn't explain why Kaioshin was out of energy after he raised his hands. He gives us a clear verification that it sucks all the ki out of you right up to your limits just as Vegeta stated. If Gohan was truly stronger than Pure boo, then Goku would have stated it and Gohan wouldn't be sitting on his ass with Gotenks on Earth just as they are all moments from death not even suggesting to go up to destroy Boo. They don't even suggest Gohan for the third wish. After Boo is defeated, they don't suggest Gohan and are hesitating over the possibility of Boo returning. Why wonder what to do when they have Gohan to save the day?

I found a quote in the Daizenshuu that very much speaks for itself : Goku continues to seek out the strongest and he waited for Boo's reincarnation "above all else". Why "above all else" if Pure boo was supposedly "weaker" than Goku and Gohan after ten years of him training? It says that Pure boo was the strongest and that explains why Goku said Gohan's ki wasn't enough after gathering it all up to his limits. This is why we go by what's stated instead of coming up with conspiracy theory. It's clear as day that Pure boo was stronger than Gohan.

Think, there are 2 other parts to Ki ; yuuki and shouki (bravery and character) Well Goku's yuuki and shouki has not changed ever since he was a little kid. But he got a lot stronger. So we have weak goku who's yuuki and shouki is the same as the Goku who is fighting kid buu (who is a lot stronger than kid Goku). Which means the thing that increased was genki. So that means genki is where a majority of strength comes from. It can be said genki makes up 95%+ of ki. This is a kids comic book / show so it's not going to be so complicated.

[Saiga]

@OWmyDragonBallz

I know that nothing will ever sway you from thinking that Pure Boo is stronger, but you're really over-analysing throw-away lines to try and prove it. There is no proof that Pure Boo was stronger. Devil's Corpse already provided a rationalization of how the Genki-Dama is different to taking everybody's ki, which is certainly no conspiracy theory. In fact, I think it's rather hypocritical of you to say that and then completely fabricate your own explanations of how things work.

[Bussani]

Genki is ki, but not all ki is genki.

Think, there are 2 other parts to K

I don't think this is quite right. Toriyama said that ki is made up of forces such as those three, implying that there are more. Those are just the three he gave as examples.

Anyway, what TheDevilsCorpse is saying is that it may not be as simple as "genki makes up the majority of your battle power". It could be something like, "genki x (yuuki + shouki / (this x that - the other))", in which case genki might not be proportionally more than any of the other things, but losing all your genki would still result in losing all of your strength (because everything else times zero genki would equal zero).

To use an analogy, what's the most important thing a car needs to drive? Someone might say fuel, since if you have no fuel, you can't go anywhere. But someone else might say wheels, and another person might say the engine. Take away any one of them and the car won't move. Not only that, but you can't solve an empty gas tank by adding more wheels. I like to think that ki is sort of like that, and that you can't make up for a lack of genki with, for example, a bunch of shouki.