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by dbboxkaifan » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:47 pm
Akira Toriyama did design them, and perhaps it's why they look familiar, but is there anything more to it than just the design?
- Zola kind of looks like a pirate daughter of Android 18
- Jiro uses a Great Saiyaman-like clothing
- Kluke a modern kid Bulma?
- Marumaru looks like a mix of Yajirobe and Ghurd together
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The title's a bit alike too, Blue Dragon and Dragon Ball.
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by xXInfinite026Xx » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:57 pm
Nope. Moving on...
In all honesty though, I'd say it's rather a case of Toriyama recycling a lot of his trademark design style and clothing whether he realized it or not.
Since they are two totally different worlds I doubt there's anything more than just their similar appearances.
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by Makaioshin » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:57 pm
Toriyama had nothing to do with the title of the game series. Toriyama's art is just limited like that. You can find a lot of similar designs if you look at his work.
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by Super Sayian Prime » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:58 pm
Is this a sly "All of Toriyama's art looks the same" thread? 'Cause there's no way a Microsoft, and Mistwalker owned property is officially related to Dragon Ball.
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by dbboxkaifan » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:01 pm
Makaioshin wrote:Toriyama had nothing to do with the title of the game series. Toriyama's art is just limited like that. You can find a lot of similar designs if you look at his work.
Blue Dragon is also an anime series, and manga, I think.
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by Hellspawn28 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:02 pm
He just like reusing the same character designs. Some of the Dragon Quest characters looked similar to other DBZ characters.
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by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:11 pm
dbboxkaifan wrote:Makaioshin wrote:Toriyama had nothing to do with the title of the game series. Toriyama's art is just limited like that. You can find a lot of similar designs if you look at his work.
Blue Dragon is also an anime series, and manga, I think.
The manga however, looks nothing like the game or anime, which both use Toriyama designs (or Toriyama-ish designs, not sure if he was involved directly with the anime at all).
The manga, 'Blue Dragon RalΩGrad', however, had art by Takeshi Obata, of Death Note fame. And even just going off of the small picture on the ANN
page, it's nothing like Toriyama's style at all.
Although there is a second manga apparently listed there, that's more based on the anime or something, but it doesn't show what the art there looks like.
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by Insertclevername » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:26 pm
The same can be said about most Dragon Quest characters and how most of them look like Gohan. The one in my avatar looks like Goten.
I actually think the examples you listed above look pretty unique if you compare them to how most Dragon Quest characters look in relation to DB.
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by Storm101 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:44 pm
Insertclevername wrote:I actually think the examples you listed above look pretty unique if you compare them to how most Dragon Quest characters look in relation to DB.
This. Chrono Trigger's designs look closer to Dragon Ball as well. I think it's amusing how Lucca looks similar to Bulma and even ended up with the same mechanical genius sidekick archetype. They both invented a time machine too...
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by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:56 pm
Storm101 wrote:This. Chrono Trigger's designs look closer to Dragon Ball as well. I think it's amusing how Lucca looks similar to Bulma and even ended up with the same mechanical genius sidekick archetype. They both invented a time machine too...
I always equated Lucca as looking more like Arale than Bulma myself, though her personality type is much closer to Bulma's.
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by Marco Polo » Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:47 pm
People always compare Toriyama's older artworks, but his designs have actually gotten more diverse by now:
Apart from maaaaaaaaaybe a Gohan lookalike, a Pan lookalike and a Tenshinhan lookalike, all these characters look different from Dragon Ball characters.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:56 pm
God, Toriyama's recent art-style is amazing, especially with this 3D type of coloring.
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by Ringworm128 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:23 pm
When I was first watching the Piccolo Daimao arc it struck me that Piccolo Daimao looks a tiny bit similar to Nena from Blue Dragon.
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by Rostir » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:31 pm
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by dbboxkaifan » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:10 pm
ringworm128 wrote:When I was first watching the Piccolo Daimao arc it struck me that Piccolo Daimao looks a tiny bit similar to Nena from Blue Dragon.
Also, when I watched
this video of Blue Dragon it was obvious that Norio Wakamoto (Lord Cell) was Nene's voice.
I love Wakamoto's Cell, and hear his vocal on other works is sweet juice.
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by Insertclevername » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:34 pm
Man, I wish I still had my 360 so I could play this.
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by Super Sayian Prime » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:05 am
Insertclevername wrote:Man, I wish I still had my 360 so I could play this.
It's a rather dull game as it adheres to the ideal traditional turn based RPG formula too much for my taste. There are two spinoffs for DS, but I've never played them.
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by samuraix123 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:21 am
Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Insertclevername wrote:Man, I wish I still had my 360 so I could play this.
It's a rather dull game as it adheres to the ideal traditional turn based RPG formula too much for my taste. There are two spinoffs for DS, but I've never played them.
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by MCDaveG » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:03 am
I hope it's better than Dragon Quest, as I'm a great fan of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest is like Final Fantasy without the great story, too much easy difficulty and battle in style of Pokémon.
So, is Blue Dragon better? Because I will buy it then!
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by Storm101 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:12 pm
There's a pretty good demo for it on Xbox Live Arcade. Let's you play 2 different areas of the game for an hour each.
