Ssj3 Vegeta

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Ssj3 Vegeta

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:39 pm

Do you guys think Vegeta could have obtained this form before the end of the series in the 10 year gap between Buu,'s death and the Budokai? I have it my own fanon but what do you guys think?
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Post by Legendary Saiya-Jin » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:51 pm

In my head canon: no. But it's probably possible after a few years of training; probably more so since he'd probably settled down a bit after the battle with Pure Buu.

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Post by The Monkey King » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:56 pm

With enough dedication, training in the gravity room, sparring, asking for advice (though I doubt he's ask Goku or Gotenks for help) I don't see why not.

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Post by Marco Polo » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:15 pm

Would he even want to? Maybe he prefered to avoid SSJ3 the same way he avoided SSJ Grade III in the Cell Saga, and spent his time trying to find a different way to gain power instead. Imagine Vegeta inventing "SSJ2 Full-Power" or something.

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Post by Legendary Saiya-Jin » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:18 pm

Then Gokuu's like "Oh, how cute!" *Goes SSJ God.*

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:20 pm

Marco Polo wrote:Would he even want to? Maybe he prefered to avoid SSJ3 the same way he avoided SSJ Grade III in the Cell Saga, and spent his time trying to find a different way to gain power instead. Imagine Vegeta inventing "SSJ2 Full-Power" or something.
Wouldn't full power Ssj3 be the logical step? Yeah mastering the Ssj3 form, if that's even possible, would still probably require than you master the Ssj2 form but attaining Ssj3 early would be beneficial.
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Post by Legendary Saiya-Jin » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:22 pm

I think his point was that SSJ3=SSJ Grade II/III; Bejiita stopped using both, it seems, after he first lost to Seru, so I could imagine he might want to avoid another form that drains too much energy for something more balanced like a mastered SSJ1/2.

I don't think there's any way you could ever hope to master such a form.

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Post by Saiga » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:29 pm

Yes, I think he could have. He trains hard, and now that he knows about it's existence he has something to aim for.
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Post by Kaboom » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:50 pm

My head-fanon likes to think that Super Saiyan 3 requires some sort of special circumstances to obtain (just from the insane amount of sheer stress and drain on a normal living body), but I'm not opposed to the idea otherwise.
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Post by Makaioshin » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:08 pm

I think he could obtain the form but it seems like a waste of time to train for it when he knows of its drawbacks and knows that it is possible to bring out power greater than Super Saiyan 3 without transforming.

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Post by Rostir » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:16 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Do you guys think Vegeta could have obtained this form before the end of the series in the 10 year gap between Buu,'s death and the Budokai? I have it my own fanon but what do you guys think?
Could have? Yes
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:21 pm

Makaioshin wrote:I think he could obtain the form but it seems like a waste of time to train for it when he knows of its drawbacks and knows that it is possible to bring out power greater than Super Saiyan 3 without transforming.
That's kind of a Gohan only thing that though... Ssj3 can probably be trained to minimize the drawbacks.
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Post by Rostir » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:23 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Makaioshin wrote:I think he could obtain the form but it seems like a waste of time to train for it when he knows of its drawbacks and knows that it is possible to bring out power greater than Super Saiyan 3 without transforming.
That's kind of a Gohan only thing that though... Ssj3 can probably be trained to minimize the drawbacks.
Yeah, probably, Goku learned the transformation but I doubt he ever trained in it.
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Post by Zephyr » Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:52 pm

I'm in the same camp as Kaboom for this. It just seems too abnormal in every way for it to be a transformation that can be achieved by normal means.

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Post by MDSTSSJ » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:18 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Do you guys think Vegeta could have obtained this form before the end of the series in the 10 year gap between Buu,'s death and the Budokai? I have it my own fanon but what do you guys think?
Mmmm :problem:

The fact is: Kakarotto train during that time after defeating Boo and we know it; and we know nothing if Vegeta train during that time.

To achieve SSJ3, it takes a very very hard training and time. Maybe in the movie, we see something about their possible training at that time to support a possible transformation. It´s not easy to say!

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Post by Saiga » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:20 am

Training is pretty much the only thing Vegeta does. I'm sure he would have trained during the 10 year period as well.
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Post by MDSTSSJ » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:49 am

Saiga wrote:Training is pretty much the only thing Vegeta does. I'm sure he would have trained during the 10 year period as well.
Maybe yes!! However, I would like to see Vegeta achieve that transformation!

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:52 am

MDSTSSJ wrote:
Saiga wrote:Training is pretty much the only thing Vegeta does. I'm sure he would have trained during the 10 year period as well.
Maybe yes!! However, I would like to see Vegeta achieve that transformation!
Well I think all of us would like to see him transform but he if he doesn't in Battle of Gods, we likely won't.
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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:58 am

I can see him achieving it. :) Also this form isn't like him deciding against using Grade 3, this actually increases speed, strength and the like a hell of a lot. Grade 3 increases your strength a bit, but murders your speed. The Grade forms don't compare to SSJ3 at all, we know the Grade forms have a multiplier below 2x SSJ.

Goku would be the first one decide against SSJ3, just like he did with the Grades. The positives out weigh the negatives as a SSJ3 IMO.

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Re: Ssj3 Vegeta

Post by SSJ4_Zankuto » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:14 am

If Vegeta ever pulls Super Saiyan 3 transformation out of his magical hat. What do you think he'll do with it? I believe Vegeta has 80% chance transforming into Super Saiyan 3 under normal conditions and other 20% is waiting until he officially becomes one in canon-universe.

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