A few things about DBZ Kai in the UK

[Bejiita]

I have to say I'm over the moon, finally people in the UK can be presented with how DB should be seen. Here's why I decided to make this topic, for one, they haven't censored it as badly as its was back in the day. Certain scenes have been kept in, like Piccolo disintegrating one of the saibamen, and also the use of the words dead and killed which is quite surprising since it's being shown on TV, but the one and best reason I think is the use of the original score, I couldn't thank Yamamoto more for ripping his score off of other material in the media, since it's because of that that we can kiss it goodbye and we can get the Kikuchi score, fair enough, some pieces are wrongly placed but only those of us who have watched the original will realise where this occurs and it can pass. We get the silent scenes as well which is another good thing.

Kuririn saying 'Kienzan'!!! This is epic, confusing too, but epic, Kai really went in the right direction, and will revive DB, especially after the release of all the video games kids and the UK all know about DBZ and must be eager to finally see it on TV, youtube have done great in removing most of the full eps so people will be tuning in and the rating will improve, which will result in a good reputation. Even the VA's are doing a great job, they're experienced from the past and have done well, me being a fan of the original Japanese version, I am pleased with what I'm seeing.

The generation of youngsters of this era are being shown DBZ the way it should have always been. I'm recording most of it on my Sky+ box and watching it to see how it has been done, whats been cut out and such, and so far so good I have to say. DB has been revived in the UK and it's being done properly, I just hope the ratings get really high.

So far they showed up to the end of the Freeza arc, and have gone back to the start, I don't know when they will show more of it, but I'm sure if it get popular enough who knows they might get the rights to show the rest of the series.

[90sDBZ]

I completely agree. It's great having it back on the air and even better that it's got a consistently good dub this time. Back in the day the franchise was handled very badly in the UK with randomly poor merchandise released and with the many bad dubs for the various shows and movies with no home release other than the Big Green dubbed movies. AB really screwed the franchise back then so I'm really glad to see things are on track this time around and that the franchise is getting a chance at redemption in the UK.

We have the Orange Bricks coming out which despite their shortcomings are still the most popular release with the majority of dub fans and are already selling really well over here. And of course we have Kai on Kix with the awesome FUNi dub and kids can finally go out and buy real Dragonball home releases after watching it on TV with the same dub instead of that disappointing Big Green trash we got years ago. On top of that we still have all the yearly games coming out and selling really well as always which will boost the popularity of the show. Plus Manga UK seem interested in releasing DB, GT and Kai which will also be great.

I'll never forget the Christmas were I excitedly got DBZ Movie 4 on VHS only to be disappointed that it was the Big Green dub. Now that AB are seemingly out of the picture these problems are a thing of the past and we can hopefully fully enjoy the Franchise to the same standard that America has for years.

[dbboxkaifan]

The censored version that airs on Kix! is NickToons, it's cut but some of it was left intact...Oh yes, wonderful job they did with Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 moment. I loved it. They deserve a golden award for those editing skills, it takes a professional to achieve that level.

[oXdanXo]

What did they do to Gohan going SSJ2?

[dbboxkaifan]

What did they do to Gohan going SSJ2?

If you haven't seen it, you'll love it.

Terrific job, NickToons. Congrats!

[Bejiita]

Yeah I realised it was the Funi dub, they did a reasonably decent job.

I have watched a few more episodes and I do think they kind of over use a lot of the bgm, and could have used some of the proper pieces, like certain pieces were used in each arc in the original, and I automatically know which arc and what bgm pieces go together, and it's weird that they use a lot of the Cell arc bgm so early in the series. A lot of the cool ones I haven't even heard yet, and since the guy got sued for copyright reasons, I don't think they done a very time-consuming job of matching the pieces to the original, they rushed it and a lot of it doesn't go, but at least we got it.

A lot of what it cut is natural and obvious as to why, and it's one of the reasons I don't like watching DBZ uncut at all, but everything else is fine, I do think cutting all direct contact in fights defeats the whole purpose of viewing the fight, and spoils what dbz is all about, fights, some of the best drawn art is that of people getting punched around, like Yajirobe getting bashed up by Vegeta for example, but thats kids tv channels for you...

We're lucky we got Kai late, since then we would've gotten the old score, and it's the bgm that is the best feature of kai to me, this is because it's what made the dub so different to the original, now people are getting it in the new series, which is odd since dbz is quite old now, and Faulconers score is so more up to date and sounds more futuristic than the Japanese score, so people who go back and watch the original Funi dub will be watching what is the old dub wth newish bgm, and then the new Kai with music from the 80's/early 90's.

[TheWhiz]

Yeah I realised it was the Funi dub, they did a reasonably decent job.

I have watched a few more episodes and I do think they kind of over use a lot of the bgm, and could have used some of the proper pieces, like certain pieces were used in each arc in the original, and I automatically know which arc and what bgm pieces go together, and it's weird that they use a lot of the Cell arc bgm so early in the series. A lot of the cool ones I haven't even heard yet, and since the guy got sued for copyright reasons, I don't think they done a very time-consuming job of matching the pieces to the original, they rushed it and a lot of it doesn't go, but at least we got it.

A lot of what it cut is natural and obvious as to why, and it's one of the reasons I don't like watching DBZ uncut at all, but everything else is fine, I do think cutting all direct contact in fights defeats the whole purpose of viewing the fight, and spoils what dbz is all about, fights, some of the best drawn art is that of people getting punched around, like Yajirobe getting bashed up by Vegeta for example, but thats kids tv channels for you...

We're lucky we got Kai late, since then we would've gotten the old score, and it's the bgm that is the best feature of kai to me, this is because it's what made the dub so different to the original, now people are getting it in the new series, which is odd since dbz is quite old now, and Faulconers score is so more up to date and sounds more futuristic than the Japanese score, so people who go back and watch the original Funi dub will be watching what is the old dub wth newish bgm, and then the new Kai with music from the 80's/early 90's.

I think they should have gone for more variety when they replaced the Yamamoto score with Kikuchi. Some of the music in some scenes sounds a bit out of place, but it's good for the most part.

[90sDBZ]

I really like FUNi's dub of Kai. The voice acting is near flawless and although the music is occasionally repetitive it still suits the show really well and is really enjoyable to listen to. I particularly liked the placements during the Spirit Bomb episode on Namek. And the insert songs are really good.

As long as the music is good and suitable for the show I can live with it being a bit repetitive. Now the music for Westwood dubbed DBZ on the other hand was both bad and repetitive to the point that it ruined almost every moment of epicness.

And regarding the edits I think we should all be glad we got the Nicktoons version rather than the Toonzai version.

In a way I see why people would want Faulconer's music in Kai or even the original Kikuchi placement. But that would defeat the purpose of having a new version.

Ideally I'd have liked Kix to air old DBZ the way the US originally got it with the Saban Ocean dub to start with then the FUNi dub with Faulconer's epic music for the rest of the series. Being that as it may I still can't complain about Kai though. It's a brilliant new version in my opinion.

[dbboxkaifan]

In a way I see why people would want Faulconer's music in Kai or even the original Kikuchi placement. But that would defeat the purpose of having a new version.

Toei Animation using outdated old music from the original DBZ anime series on a 2009 show was a terrible choice, because not only is it damn repetitive due to the limitation of tracks used and the Original Kai Music suited Kai much better, well, it's the authentic score that Kai had originally until Toei removed it. They could have delayed the inevitable removal of the original music from Kai until it finished on TV and Blu-ray / DVD.

Kikuchi in Kai completely defeated the purpose of Kai's moderness, though, the picture quality looks quite mediocre at times. Meh, it's a rushed job, but at least they did a great work with Kai's Saiyan to Freeza arc.

[Scott]

I watched the first 2 episodes then stopped, i don't know if it was the dubbing or something else but it seemed to lack soul. They also cut Raditz killing the farmer and i am just not having that.

I am all for some of the filler being cut but Kai over did it for me.

[IAmTheMilkMan]

I watched the first 2 episodes then stopped, i don't know if it was the dubbing or something else but it seemed to lack soul. They also cut Raditz killing the farmer and i am just not having that.

I am all for some of the filler being cut but Kai over did it for me.

The reason you didn't see Raditz killing the farmer is because you were watching the edited-for-TV version; killing the farmer remains intact in the uncut version. I would recommend seeking out the uncut version of Kai before judging it so harshly. Though I don't know what to tell you about the dub, that's just a matter of opinion. I happen to think it's excellent and the only bearable English dub thus far, but that's just me (and almost everyone else here, it seems.)

[Gonstead]

I watched the first 2 episodes then stopped, i don't know if it was the dubbing or something else but it seemed to lack soul. They also cut Raditz killing the farmer and i am just not having that.

I am all for some of the filler being cut but Kai over did it for me.

I'd suggest watching the uncut version rather than the edited version that airs on TV.

[Scott]

I watched the first 2 episodes then stopped, i don't know if it was the dubbing or something else but it seemed to lack soul. They also cut Raditz killing the farmer and i am just not having that.

I am all for some of the filler being cut but Kai over did it for me.

The reason you didn't see Raditz killing the farmer is because you were watching the edited-for-TV version; killing the farmer remains intact in the uncut version. I would recommend seeking out the uncut version of Kai before judging it so harshly. Though I don't know what to tell you about the dub, that's just a matter of opinion. I happen to think it's excellent and the only bearable English dub thus far, but that's just me (and almost everyone else here, it seems.)

Even Ocean kept the killing the farmer bit, it was just a bit surprising not to see it.

I will definitely get Kai on DVD one day, but right now it's not something i am really interested in. There are so many more anime's i want to get before i get this.

[90sDBZ]

I watched the first 2 episodes then stopped, i don't know if it was the dubbing or something else but it seemed to lack soul. They also cut Raditz killing the farmer and i am just not having that.

I am all for some of the filler being cut but Kai over did it for me.

The reason you didn't see Raditz killing the farmer is because you were watching the edited-for-TV version; killing the farmer remains intact in the uncut version. I would recommend seeking out the uncut version of Kai before judging it so harshly. Though I don't know what to tell you about the dub, that's just a matter of opinion. I happen to think it's excellent and the only bearable English dub thus far, but that's just me (and almost everyone else here, it seems.)

Even Ocean kept the killing the farmer bit, it was just a bit surprising not to see it.

I will definitely get Kai on DVD one day, but right now it's not something i am really interested in. There are so many more anime's i want to get before i get this.

Ocean may have kept the farmer bit in but Kai keeps in plenty of other stuff that Ocean cut out like the scene were they go to collect Yamcha, Tien and Piccolo's corpses as well as the scene were Piccolo tells Gohan his dad is dead and the part were Kami says he will die in a year. In Ocean they made it seem like Gohan was unaware of his fathers death. And Ocean technically didn't keep the farmers death because they had him talking after getting hit with the bullet to make you think he was alive.