What if vegeta saw bulma get killed

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What if vegeta saw bulma get killed

Post by Vegeta12 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:08 pm

What if vegeta saw bulma get killed in the future of dbz. Because vegeta surpasses goku just from bulma getting slapped. What if she got killed what would his power be like.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:16 pm

Vegeta12 wrote:Because vegeta surpasses goku just from bulma getting slapped.
Uh... What? Is that from Battle of Gods or something?

If so, I'm getting tired of people posting spoilers, or at least "semi-spoilers" in other threads. I've seen at least a few other plot developments spoiled in other threads unrelated to BoG, without so much as a spoiler alert.

Sure, lots of Dragon Ball fans, me included, had things spoiled for them back in the day, but I don't want that to happen with this new movie.
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Post by Li'l Lemmy » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:18 pm

Somehow I don't imagine too much of a difference in power boost versus Bulma getting slapped. Super Saiyan 3 doesn't strike me as one of the spontaneous, rage-driven transformations.


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Re: What if vegeta saw bulma get killed

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:13 pm

I don't think there's a direct correlation between "how much Bulma gets damaged" to "how much Vegeta powers off." He just got enraged, and powered up.
Incidentally, and I hate to be "that guy," but shouldn't this topic, and the other two you've started be in the in-universe discussion?
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:03 pm

He'd charge at the villain and get beaten in one slap.
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Re: What if vegeta saw bulma get killed

Post by VyeRo » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:54 am

He would probably get a power boost but this time it would remain longer, not for 1 minute like against Beers. He would probably keep this power until his enemy is defeated. I don't think he will transform to SSJ3 though.
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Post by Godo » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:27 pm

I remember Vegeta getting pissed as hell against Hildegarn when his house got destroyed and kept up pretty well at that time.
Whilst he may not be able to reach Ssj3 by Bulma getting killed (or maybe he could, who knows) he would momentarily show a burst of a tremendous power, possibly near Ssj3.
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Post by Marco Polo » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:10 pm

BoG spoilers


Why is SSJ3 even being mentioned? SSJ Vegeta was already stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:13 pm

Marco Polo wrote:BoG spoilers


Why is SSJ3 even being mentioned? SSJ Vegeta was already stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
It's Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta.
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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:54 pm

It's not actually confirmed though is it? Logically it should be SSJ2 Vegeta though.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:12 pm

Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:It's not actually confirmed though is it? Logically it should be SSJ2 Vegeta though.
The Dragon Ball Heroes: Victory Mission manga had a special tie-in page which showed Beet, the main character, meeting Goku while he was watching Vegeta getting his ass kicked by Beers, and his aura had sparks. So, Vegeta was a Super Saiyan 2.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:35 pm

Thanks for that. I always thought he was anyway to be honest, that's enough to completely convince me. :D
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Post by Jackal puFF » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:48 pm

It still doesn't make very much sense too me. I mean look at Vegeta trying to attack Cell when Trunks got killed, nothing. But Bulma getting hit makes a Vegeta super strong? What?!
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Post by Bussani » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:15 pm

Jackal puFF wrote:It still doesn't make very much sense too me. I mean look at Vegeta trying to attack Cell when Trunks got killed, nothing. But Bulma getting hit makes a Vegeta super strong? What?!
Maybe whatever hidden strength he taps into in Battle of Gods wasn't there yet in the Cell arc. Or wasn't accessible, at least. Maybe it's something that had to be unearthed by training, or maybe it reflects the change in Vegeta's personality by this point.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:19 pm

Jackal puFF wrote:It still doesn't make very much sense too me. I mean look at Vegeta trying to attack Cell when Trunks got killed, nothing. But Bulma getting hit makes a Vegeta super strong? What?!
Maybe this didn't happen against Cell because he was still evil at that point.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by Magical Hobo » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:38 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Jackal puFF wrote:It still doesn't make very much sense too me. I mean look at Vegeta trying to attack Cell when Trunks got killed, nothing. But Bulma getting hit makes a Vegeta super strong? What?!
Maybe this didn't happen against Cell because he was still evil at that point.
this the whole time he was giving trunks shit
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Post by VyeRo » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:26 pm

He didn't really have a bond with Trunks at that time. He did his best trying not to acknowledge him (as his son and as a person basically). And even then he got angry at Cell and wanted to avenge his son.
So you can imagine what would happen when someone threatens the person he actually deeply cares about now.
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Post by Marco Polo » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:22 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:It's not actually confirmed though is it? Logically it should be SSJ2 Vegeta though.
The Dragon Ball Heroes: Victory Mission manga had a special tie-in page which showed Beet, the main character, meeting Goku while he was watching Vegeta getting his ass kicked by Beers, and his aura had sparks. So, Vegeta was a Super Saiyan 2.
Toriyama draws SSJ with sparks nowadays. There's no conclusive proof to say whether sparkless Vegeta in the movie or spark Vegeta in Toyotaro's DBHeroes manga is SSJ2 or not.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:15 am

Toyotaru doesn't give sparks to the Super Saiyans.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by Saiga » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:12 am

Or maybe it didn't happen against Cell because Vegeta isn't a half-Saiyan hybrid.
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