Freeza vs Kamiccolo(Freeza Arc)

[TheMightyOzaru]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDe2_QaP8gk
I'm not entirely sure who would win but I did find this very enjoyable. The editing is quite superb.

[Mjb1985]

Well that was enjoyable. And you were right , the editing was superb. Unfortunately I don't think any of that would happen but it was really cool.

Considering that Nail said that a potential Kamiccolo could only PROBABLY beat Freeza , ie 530,000 Freeza, I don't see Kami having that big of a boost for Piccolo's power.

Perhaps Piccolo can now be even with 3rd Form Freeza , possibly Freeza's initial true form power , but that's as far as I go.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I'd say he would have a power level of about 3,760,000 if he fused with Kami. That's going by scaling logic with the android saga though.
EDIT: I'd say Kamiccolo(Freeza Arc) would have a power level of 2,520,000. He wouldn't make it past Freeza's initial fourth form.

[Mjb1985]

Seems to be in the same general range I would have him as well. How strong do you have Kami boosting Piccolo in the Freeza Saga and the Androids Saga? How strong is Piccolo initially on Namek?

[TheMightyOzaru]

I have Piccolo's power being boosted by almost 3x in both cases. I have Piccolo at 1,260,000 after fusing with Nail.

[Mjb1985]

Yea I'm basically in the same boat as you. Do you stick with Nail's assessment of a hypothetical Kamiccolo's power ?

[CaBrPi]

I always just assumed that the fusion with Kami doubled Piccolo's power, and would double it no matter what level Piccolo was at. They're two halves of the same whole, after all. So, basically, the way it happened in the series (Nail first, then Kami) maximized Piccolo's power gains.

But this was really cool. I didn't expect much from it, but it was surprisingly really well-edited, like you guys said.

[Mjb1985]

I'm in the same boat as you regarding Kami doubling Piccolo's power. Yea , really recommended.

[RandomGuy96]

I think the first fusion was (A + B) x 10. The second was (A + B) x 5.

I have the first having weighted Piccolo go up to 1,000,000, with taking off the weights bringing him up to 1,200,000. So I had full power pre-fusion Piccolo at 78,000 and weighted at 58,000.

With Kami I had him going from 135,000,000 to 675,000,000. The increase is smaller than the first time because he's already fused once.

So my hypothetical Freeza Saga Kamiccolo would be 580,000-780,000. Weaker than the fusion with Nail, but still enough to beat first form Freeza, even with weights.

[Mjb1985]

Nail said Kamiccolo could probably beat 530k. So that seems to be a good range.

Regarding Initial Piccolo though , do you think Piccolo would think he would be able to help Kuririn and Gohan if he was only 78,000?

[Kamiccolo9]

Nail said Kamiccolo could probably beat 530k. So that seems to be a good range.

Regarding Initial Piccolo though , do you think Piccolo would think he would be able to help Kuririn and Gohan if he was only 78,000?

No. He would be just as helpless against Freeza as they were. In fact, he would only be slightly stronger than Krillin, who was at 75,000, and weaker than Gohan.

[Mjb1985]

I don't know. Vegeta said Kuririn and Gohan would be of help against a transformed Freeza. Piccolo seems to suggest he can help those who can help against Freeza.

I generally like to place it like this

Freeza 530
Vegeta 500
Piccolo 300
Gohan 250
Kuririn 200

Something like that more or less makes me feel more comfortable with those kind of statements.

[RandomGuy96]

He has no idea how strong Freeza really is. All he knows is that everyone there is far stronger than the saiyans on Earth. So, having gotten over twenty times stronger it's plausible for him to think that he can help, even though in reality he was probably be weaker than Krillin at that time. Yeah the guides place him at 75,000 but that was the beginning of the fight. If he got multi-fold stronger from Ginyu to the fight with Freeza, he was probably still getting stronger during the battle.

[Mjb1985]

Freeza told Nail his power level is 530,000 and Nail can sense ki.

[RandomGuy96]

I was talking about Piccolo. He shouldn't know Freeza's strength.

Also, another video of his I like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmMrlt6QLYs

[TheMightyOzaru]

I don't particularly like that one because the KK x20 should have killed Freeza in his second form. Also yeah I suppose doubling would make more sense in regards to Kamiccolo.

[Mjb1985]

Piccolo is not the one who makes the estimation though. Regarding Kamiccolo of course.

Piccolo did sense Freeza stating that he had a monstrous power from the get go.

Piccolo senses Freeza's monstrous power and says he has to go help the kids (?) , as he's flying he sees Nail. So he was on his way.

[RandomGuy96]

I don't particularly like that one because the KK x20 should have killed Freeza in his second form.

Depending on your numbers, second form Freeza isn't that far from 1,800,000 and when Goku activated that he was already injured and fatigued. He shouldn't have been at full power.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I don't particularly like that one because the KK x20 should have killed Freeza in his second form.

Depending on your numbers, second form Freeza isn't that far from 1,800,000 and when Goku activated that he was already injured and fatigued. He shouldn't have been at full power.

Goku was injured and fatigued when he fired of his KK x20 Kamehameha at Freeza yet it's still stated to be at 60,000,000. I also think 1,800,000 outclasses 1,060,000 enough for a kill.

[Mjb1985]

Who's 1,800 ? 3rd Form ?