Why didn't SSJ God look more like this?

[TheMightyOzaru]

This is more SSJ God than the original design IMO. What do you guys think?

[dbzfan7]

This is more SSJ God than the original design IMO. What do you guys think?

I personally think SSJG deserved a new hair style, but when Goku's hair is in base, it doesn't really scream different. When I think godly, I think hair rising.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Nah. To me, one of the few things SS God has going for it in it's design that I like wholeheartedly, is seeing Goku's base hair being kept for a new powerup. Making it just a red-tinted hair coloring of his Super Saiyan hair would seem even more cheap.

That and, it would raise even more questions about the original Saiyan who used it in the past. Chances are that first Super Saiyan God didn't have access to the regular Super Saiyan form (if he did, would he have really needed any 'God' form to take down the evil Saiyans?), so it'd seem weird for Goku's appearance in the form to use his SS hair.

[hleV]

'Cuz Toriyama doesn't give a shit about DB since long ago. DB just reaches back to him 'cuz it's popular. Not that I prefer your version, just in general.

[InfernalVegito]

I don't know. I still cannot decide whether I like or do not like the actual design. I think I would like it if he had an entirely different outfit. His orange gi has become boring.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Nah. To me, one of the few things SS God has going for it in it's design that I like wholeheartedly, is seeing Goku's base hair being kept for a new powerup. Making it just a red-tinted hair coloring of his Super Saiyan hair would seem even more cheap.

That and, it would raise even more questions about the original Saiyan who used it in the past. Chances are that first Super Saiyan God didn't have access to the regular Super Saiyan form (if he did, would he have really needed any 'God' form to take down the evil Saiyans?), so it'd seem weird for Goku's appearance in the form to use his SS hair.

The origin of SSJ God was explained in the movie, it had nothing to do with the original SSJ.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Well that clearly looks more SSJ than the base looking SSJG, but I like what we've ended up with. I definitely think SSJG should have just been called Saiyan god though.

[dbzfan7]

Well that clearly looks more SSJ than the base looking SSJG, but I like what we've ended up with. I definitely think SSJG should have just been called Saiyan god though.

Yep. Would not be as cool sounding as SSJG, but would make more sense.

[Gyt Kaliba]

The origin of SSJ God was explained in the movie, it had nothing to do with the original SSJ.

I know that, that's not what I was saying.

Shenlong explains that Super Saiyan God was a savior accidentally created by righteous Saiyans long ago, in order to oppose the evil Saiyans, whose power and numbers were overwhelmingly superior. With his tremendous power, this savior quickly wiped out most of the evil Saiyans, but his power ran out right before he could finish the job. And so Planet Vegeta once again became a planet of evil Saiyans, and the savior was erased in legend.

The original Super Saiyan God (not the original Super Saiyan), let's call him...Brad, for ease here. Brad used the Super Saiyan God form to try and beat the rest of the evil Saiyans on the planet. These evil Saiyans were no doubt just regular, run-of-the-mill Saiyans, not Super Saiyans, right? So if Brad actually needs Super Saiyan God to compete, then he must not be a regular Super Saiyan.

So what I'm saying is that Super Saiyan God is entirely removed from the regular Super Saiyan forms, just like you already said. So why would Goku (or anyone else's) hair go into their Super Saiyan hairstyle for their Super Saiyan God form, when it's seperate, and presumably Brad's hair didn't go into the same shape of form that he never had?

[TheMightyOzaru]

Well that clearly looks more SSJ than the base looking SSJG, but I like what we've ended up with. I definitely think SSJG should have just been called Saiyan god though.

Yeah if nothing else just change the name to Saiyan God. That would make waaaaaaaaay more sense.

The original Super Saiyan God (not the original Super Saiyan), let's call him...Brad, for ease here. Brad used the Super Saiyan God form to try and beat the rest of the evil Saiyans on the planet. These evil Saiyans were no doubt just regular, run-of-the-mill Saiyans, not Super Saiyans, right? So if Brad actually needs Super Saiyan God to compete, then he must not be a regular Super Saiyan.

So what I'm saying is that Super Saiyan God is entirely removed from the regular Super Saiyan forms, just like you already said. So why would Goku (or anyone else's) hair go into their Super Saiyan hairstyle for their Super Saiyan God form, when it's seperate, and presumably Brad's hair didn't go into the same shape of form that he never had?

Well put but that doesn't really answer where the term SSJ God came from. If this was just called Saiyan God there would be no confusion.

[Kamiccolo9]

Isn't the "Super" used for SSJ God written out differently in Japanese than it is for "Super" Saiyan? I seem to remember one using "suupa," or something like that, while the other uses "Chou." Of course, I could just be making all this up in my head, and have no idea what I'm talking about

[Chuquita]

I also feel like that was there, at least in some of the earlier ads.

The "super" part of the form's title; I feel like it's only there for superficial reasons. If the original design from the earlier version of the script was indeed supposed to be golden-haired with a hairstyle in-between ssj3 and 4, "super" would make more sense for that sort of look. They also could've kept it left over from that because it's a marketing tactic. "Super/ultra/giga/mega/ultimate" etc are supposed to be eye-catching or curiosity-grabbing for the audience.

I've said in other threads (and it's still true) that I like the form because it's cute (imo); but a new outfit would've been nice. I've seen some art on pixiv where he's drawn wearing clothes similar to Beerus.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Well put but that doesn't really answer where the term SSJ God came from. If this was just called Saiyan God there would be no confusion.

True. I do kinda wish they'd just called it 'Saiyan God' instead, just to make it's separate status from the other transformations all the more clear.

And as I've said in other threads, my issue is still more with how Super Saiyan God is achieved rather than what it looks like. Hell, I liked the one idea someone tossed out before the movie was out, that maybe Goku got it by eating the Oracle Fish, better than the ritual.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Isn't the "Super" used for SSJ God written out differently in Japanese than it is for "Super" Saiyan? I seem to remember one using "suupa," or something like that, while the other uses "Chou." Of course, I could just be making all this up in my head, and have no idea what I'm talking about

No, スーパー(Su-pa-) is used in all SSJ forms.

I also feel like that was there, at least in some of the earlier ads.

The "super" part of the form's title; I feel like it's only there for superficial reasons. If the original design from the earlier version of the script was indeed supposed to be golden-haired with a hairstyle in-between ssj3 and 4, "super" would make more sense for that sort of look. They also could've kept it left over from that because it's a marketing tactic. "Super/ultra/giga/mega/ultimate" etc are supposed to be eye-catching or curiosity-grabbing for the audience.

I've said in other threads (and it's still true) that I like the form because it's cute (imo); but a new outfit would've been nice. I've seen some art on pixiv where he's drawn wearing clothes similar to Beerus.

Hmm, interesting reasoning there. So like SSJ4, it's called that out of convenience when in reality it's not really a SSJ form.

[Kamiccolo9]

Isn't the "Super" used for SSJ God written out differently in Japanese than it is for "Super" Saiyan? I seem to remember one using "suupa," or something like that, while the other uses "Chou." Of course, I could just be making all this up in my head, and have no idea what I'm talking about

No, スーパー(Su-pa-) is used in all SSJ forms.

My bad. This is what I was thinking of

For "Super Saiyan God" they use the English word "God" (ゴッド) rather than "Kami" (神). Somewhat in keeping with how "Super Saiyan" itself uses the English word "Super" rather than the Japanese "Chou".

[Duo]

I like the idea of Goku fighting in a state more similar to his normal for a change. All the golden hair in the world gets a bit old after a while. Do the characters have to look different for the fights to be interesting? It can add spice, but we sure do get a lot of it throughout Dragon Ball.

[TheMightyOzaru]

It just makes little sense for a SSJ form to lack the SSJ hair.

[Duo]

It just makes little sense for a SSJ form to lack the SSJ hair.

I'll go ahead and agree that it shouldn't have been called "Super Saiyan God". I think they kept the super just to make the whole thing seem more awesome.

[TheMightyOzaru]

It just makes little sense for a SSJ form to lack the SSJ hair.

I'll go ahead and agree that it shouldn't have been called "Super Saiyan God". I think they kept the super just to make the whole thing seem more awesome.

Yeah, I treat this form the same way SSJ4 was treated in the GT perfect files. It's just called a SSJ form out of convenience when in reality it's something completely different.

[Duo]

Seems like they can only get away with calling these things something different when they don't have an immense pressure on them to be popular, aka Ultimate Gohan. Even then, the fans went with "Mystic Saiyan" for years on the internet, which is a pretty similar title.