Death Battle! Vegeta vs Shadow Discussion Thread

[Kamiccolo9]

Everyone brings up the Goku vs Superman fight that ScrewAttack did, but it seems like this one has been more or less forgotten? What are your thoughts? Did it go the way it should have gone, or were they terribly, egregiously wrong? What do you think?
http://www.screwattack.com/shows/origin ... -vs-shadow

[TheMightyOzaru]

They were wrong on so many levels. People often argue this is the video game Shadow so of course he loses. People fail to realize, however, that A, They use Archie as a source and B, video game Shadow is no push over. First and foremost, Super Shadow tangles with Universal threats on an everyday basis in both the video games and comics. The Time Eater and Solaris are even Muliversal threats. The comic books have people that can crush millions of multiverses with a fraction of a God's power:

The God who's power is being used is this guy:

This guy is Enerjak, he is practically Omnipotent and is only limited by his imagination as proven here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SajnI2M_ikg
skip to 7:47 and read all about him.
You all may be wondering, what does this have to do with Shadow? Simple all these character get their power from the Chaos Force, a pool of limitless power and potential. The Chaos Emeralds grant him access to this reservoir of power. Super Sonic for example has tangled with Enerjak and Super Shadow isn't any weaker:

I would also like to point out that the Chaos Force, other than granting them Multiversal destructive capabilities, also allows them to bend time and space to their will. Super Shadow could speed up time around Vegeta, and kill him that way, or he could simply transport him into the sun and be done with it. This is but a taste of their power. If anyone needs more, I'll be happy to provide.

[FoolsGil]

Suprising defense on Shadow. I was so sure everyone would 100% agree on the outcome.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Suprising defense on Shadow. I was so sure everyone would 100% agree on the outcome.

I don't see how it's surprising. Anyone who's read Archie knows Vegeta is worthless in the Archie Sonic-verse.

[Michelle91]

I guess Ben didn't know about the comics or didn't think they were important. Comic Sonic and Shadow would solo all of Dragon Ball while their video game counter parts would lose.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I guess Ben didn't know about the comics or didn't think they were important. Comic Sonic and Shadow would solo all of Dragon Ball while their video game counter parts would lose.

Nope. Sonic and Shadow in the video games have their fair share of feats that make DBZ look like shit. The Sun God Solaris is something DBZ characters could never hope to beat. Not only did Solaris distort every universe across time and space, it also casually destroys universes. It's Omnipresent with time and space and is practically Nigh Omnipotent. I realize that Sonic video games are a bit inconsistent with the feats but I just assume that the Super forms are as strong as they need to be to win based on Tikal's Prayer. It states that the Chaos Emeralds turn thoughts into power which would imply it grants the user as much power as necessary. It would explain why Sonic can destroy casual Universe busters yet have his super form knocked out of him by Knuckles. Ben actually did use Archie as a source so I'm not sure how he came to the conclusion that Vegeta could survive a minute of Shadow hitting him with Chaos Spears that have enough condensed energy to blow away a Universe. As if that wasn't bad enough though, Ben was under the impression that Shadow's super form was a 1,000% increase for whatever reason . Nowhere is that stated, he just made shit up. Same goes for Vegeta's SSJ forms. 500%? Why did they feel the need to make shit up?

[miguelnuva1]

I agree. Sonic in both Video game form and Archie form is extremely powerful. Comic Sonic would solo DBZ and game Sonic should at least get to the Buu saga.

[hulkty]

TROLLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! They really turned the classic, lovable, kid friendly, talking blue hedgehog into a comic where he replaces Goku as the Super Saiyan?! TROLLOLOLOL!!! WTF!?!?!

[TheMightyOzaru]

TROLLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! They really turned the classic, lovable, kid friendly, talking blue hedgehog into a comic where he replaces Goku as the Super Saiyan?! TROLLOLOLOL!!! WTF!?!?!

Super Sonic has been around since 1992 bro, and you're noticing it now? Sonic is still a a classic, lovable, kid friendly, talking blue hedgehog. He's just super incredibly uber powerful now .

[SSJ4_Zankuto]

I found the Vegeta vs Shadow fight was very entertaining to be honest. I wonder how the fight would turn out if Vegeta was allowed to transform into Super Saiyan 3 or 4.

[TheMightyOzaru]

It was funny, sure, but the result is still bull shit. This is like comparing Krillin to Galactus. Super Shadow is vastly superior in pretty much every way imaginable.

[Fionordequester]

Well, to be fair, the Death Battle duo said that Vegeta would've won because of his ability to outlast Super Shadow, not because he was actually stronger...Granted, if Shadow had those kinds of powers, I don't really know how ANYONE from Dragon Ball Z could survive for a full minute, but if anyone could do it, it would be Vegeta or Goku.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Well, to be fair, the Death Battle duo said that Vegeta would've won because of his ability to outlast Super Shadow, not because he was actually stronger...Granted, if Shadow had those kinds of powers, I don't really know how ANYONE from Dragon Ball Z could survive for a full minute, but if anyone could do it, it would be Vegeta or Goku.

They couldn't survive for a full minute, that's the problem. Rings are also a game mechanic. Sonic and Shadow's super forms don't actually have a time limit in the comic books. That is evident by the fact that Super Sonic fought Enerjak for hours. Super Sonic also maintained his super form for a week in Sonic Advanced with no ring collecting. That leads me to believe there isn't an actual time limit in the games either. Rings are there to make the God mode of the game less broken. Seriously, imagine how boring it would be if the final boss couldn't even do anything to you .

[dario03]

Well, to be fair, the Death Battle duo said that Vegeta would've won because of his ability to outlast Super Shadow, not because he was actually stronger...Granted, if Shadow had those kinds of powers, I don't really know how ANYONE from Dragon Ball Z could survive for a full minute, but if anyone could do it, it would be Vegeta or Goku.

They couldn't survive for a full minute, that's the problem. Rings are also a game mechanic. Sonic and Shadow's super forms don't actually have a time limit in the comic books. That is evident by the fact that Super Sonic fought Enerjak for hours. Super Sonic also maintained his super form for a week in Sonic Advanced with no ring collecting. That leads me to believe there isn't an actual time limit in the games either. Rings are there to make the God mode of the game less broken. Seriously, imagine how boring it would be if the final boss couldn't even do anything to you .

Well...... he could still crush you, drown you, or make you run out of time

[TheMightyOzaru]

, silly game mechanics.