Post-Manga Head Canon?
Post-Manga Head Canon?
What is everyone's post-Z/post-manga/post-Buu head canon?
Mine would be:
- Movie 13, 2008 Special, and Battle of Gods between the battle with Buu and the 28th Budokai.
- Parts of GT:
- Baby arc that starts differently, and leads directly into the Evil Dragons arc (fuck the Super 17 arc)
- Parts of DBO:
- Namely, everything from the backstory up until the point where the remnants of Freeza's army are defeated by Earth's remaining warriors (save for the Majin race spreading and becoming widespread)
- I imagine the Makaioshin would end up causing trouble at some point
Mine would be:
- Movie 13, 2008 Special, and Battle of Gods between the battle with Buu and the 28th Budokai.
- Parts of GT:
- Baby arc that starts differently, and leads directly into the Evil Dragons arc (fuck the Super 17 arc)
- Parts of DBO:
- Namely, everything from the backstory up until the point where the remnants of Freeza's army are defeated by Earth's remaining warriors (save for the Majin race spreading and becoming widespread)
- I imagine the Makaioshin would end up causing trouble at some point
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2008 Jump Special and Battle of Gods. Kabooms GT rewrite too
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2008 Special, Movie 13, BOG-Not sure about the order of these, but they can work.
Parts of Online and GT. The one's that Zephyr picked look good to me.
Incidentally, there's a lot of the anime filler and a few of the movies that I accept as well. Most of the Saiyan arc filler, the Otherworld Tournament (aside from the dead people being "immortal" part), the Trunks Special (which I place higher than the manga version in my own canon), the Bardock Special, Movie 9, Movie 1 (Krillin knowing about Gohan notwithstanding. The manga has worse plotholes), Movie 5, and the Garlic Jr. Arc.
Parts of Online and GT. The one's that Zephyr picked look good to me.
Incidentally, there's a lot of the anime filler and a few of the movies that I accept as well. Most of the Saiyan arc filler, the Otherworld Tournament (aside from the dead people being "immortal" part), the Trunks Special (which I place higher than the manga version in my own canon), the Bardock Special, Movie 9, Movie 1 (Krillin knowing about Gohan notwithstanding. The manga has worse plotholes), Movie 5, and the Garlic Jr. Arc.
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2008 special and BoG, that's about it for me. 
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Manga:
- Kanzenban changes
- Full Color/Colored Edition colors
- Dragon Ball: Adventure Special
- Dragon Ball: Daizenshuu 2, 4, and 7 (excluding anime-only information)
- Dragon Ball: Chozenshuu 1 & 4 (excluding anime-only information)
- Dragon Ball: Kanzenban Official Guides (Landmark & Forever)
- Dragon Ball: Super Exciting Guides
- Dragon Ball: Heya! Son Goku and Friends Return!! (manga adaptation)
- Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock (manga adaptation)
- Dragon Ball Z: A Final, Solitary Battle: The Father of Z-Warrior Son Goku, who Challenged Freeza (though it happened a little differently, with Bardock's armor staying undamaged from Dodoria's attack, and the final scene happened as shown in EoB)
- Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods (along with its guidebook)
- Dragon Ball Online (along with its guidebook)
- Dr. Slump (manga)
- Dr. Mashirito & Abale-chan (manga)
- Neko Majin
- Toriyama's interviews
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I never view GT or anything made purely from Toei as canon to the manga. I also don't think DBO could be canon to the manga seeing that AT never had anything to do with the story. I do view DBO as a alternate sequel to the manga kinda how Dracula the Un-dead (which was written by Bram Stoker's great grand-nephew) is to the original Dracula novel.
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- Movie 13
- Battle of Gods
- Neko Majin
- GT Revised
- A small handful of events that are awfully similar but not necessarily identical to parts of DragonBall Online's history and just happen to fit with GT Revised's story.
- Battle of Gods
- Neko Majin
- GT Revised
- A small handful of events that are awfully similar but not necessarily identical to parts of DragonBall Online's history and just happen to fit with GT Revised's story.
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That's false.Hellspawn28 wrote:I also don't think DBO could be canon to the manga seeing that AT never had anything to do with the story.
Series creator Akira Toriyama has a great deal of creative control over the project, both contributing to and supervising the story and art design, including character and location arrangements. It has been stated that Toriyama has worked on character designs for this project for over five years.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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You don't count the Jump Special?Kaboom wrote:- Movie 13
- Battle of Gods
- Neko Majin
- GT Revised
- A small handful of events that are awfully similar but not necessarily identical to parts of DragonBall Online's history and just happen to fit with GT Revised's story.
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Whoops. No, I just temporarily forgot it existed. Go figure.Kamiccolo9 wrote:You don't count the Jump Special?
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Ah, ok. Nice new avatar, by the way.Kaboom wrote:Whoops. No, I just temporarily forgot it existed. Go figure.Kamiccolo9 wrote:You don't count the Jump Special?
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BOG and GT.
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But it didn't said that he wrote it. With BOG, I remember it said that he help write the script.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:That's false.Hellspawn28 wrote:I also don't think DBO could be canon to the manga seeing that AT never had anything to do with the story.
Series creator Akira Toriyama has a great deal of creative control over the project, both contributing to and supervising the story and art design, including character and location arrangements. It has been stated that Toriyama has worked on character designs for this project for over five years.
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And he also contributed to the DBO story.Hellspawn28 wrote:But it didn't said that he wrote it. With BOG, I remember it said that he help write the script.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:That's false.Hellspawn28 wrote:I also don't think DBO could be canon to the manga seeing that AT never had anything to do with the story.
Series creator Akira Toriyama has a great deal of creative control over the project, both contributing to and supervising the story and art design, including character and location arrangements. It has been stated that Toriyama has worked on character designs for this project for over five years.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Pre-Storyline Events per the manga and supplemental guidebooks -> The manga proper through Chapter 517, plus all supplemental guidebooks -> JSAT -> Battle of Gods -> Chapters 518 and 519 -> Online.
Let's just say that there is a guy named Bardock and he did some things that we can't say for sure happened exactly as they purportedly played out, but he is certainly a guy who exists and is remembered by Freeza, yep yep yep.
Let's just say that there is a guy named Bardock and he did some things that we can't say for sure happened exactly as they purportedly played out, but he is certainly a guy who exists and is remembered by Freeza, yep yep yep.
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This is pretty much the same as mine. I just throw in all Toriyama interviews and some stuff he contributed to the anime. I guess his epilogue for the Earthlings takes place between the end of the Boo arc and BoG.B wrote:Pre-Storyline Events per the manga and supplemental guidebooks -> The manga proper through Chapter 517, plus all supplemental guidebooks -> JSAT -> Battle of Gods -> Chapters 518 and 519 -> Online
Don't forget his crazy time traveling adventures in Online.Let's just say that there is a guy named Bardock and he did some things that we can't say for sure happened exactly as they purportedly played out, but he is certainly a guy who exists and is remembered by Freeza, yep yep yep.
If you are doing this because of the cameos then you could also throw in Pola & Roid because of King Nikochan.DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Other Toriyama manga:
- Dr. Slump (manga)
- Dr. Mashirito & Abale-chan (manga)
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A random Freeza thug with a power level of >18,000 shows up and nukes the Earth from orbit while the heroes are lounging around, killing every single main character as they suffocate in space.
The end.
The end.
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This is now canon. It happens right after Goku flies off with Uub. Uub saw the ship in orbit, but Goku was too busy thinking about food and training to listen to Uub's warning.RandomGuy96 wrote:A random Freeza thug with a power level of >18,000 shows up and nukes the Earth from orbit while the heroes are lounging around, killing every single main character as they suffocate in space.
The end.
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