Did Gohan go False SSJ on Namek

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Did Gohan go False SSJ on Namek

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:28 am

This fan incorrect statement got me thinking.
most people will say that it was in the cell saga when they are training, but i disagree, i say he first glimpsed it before frieza died:

When Second form Frieza impales Krillin through the stomach, seemingly killing him, Gohan goes into a berserk rage, exhibiting extraordinary power, even for him. His hair stands up, and turns yellow, because of the light blasts, however you cannot see his eye color, and can attribute the hair to wind, and energy glow. I, however think that this is a super saiyan transformation.
I think it was just rage and Ki aura. But to me it's a slight chance he went FSSJ

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1% - FSSJ
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Re: Did Gohan go False SSJ on Namek

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:30 am

No. It was just a typical Gohan anger moment.
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Re: Did Gohan go False SSJ on Namek

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:37 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:No. It was just a typical Gohan anger moment.
Thanks. I've been telling this guy that he didn't go SSJ till Cell Arc. But he won't accept it. Then again he also thinks Goku father made the Great Ape and the Fake Moon :lol: . Why am I wasting my time?

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Re: Did Gohan go False SSJ on Namek

Post by Blade » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:26 am

Yeah, I think he was just massively pissed off. As a plot device 'Super Saiyan' was pretty much entirely about Goku at that point in the story.
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Re: Did Gohan go False SSJ on Namek

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:39 am

TheGmGoken wrote:This fan incorrect statement got me thinking.
most people will say that it was in the cell saga when they are training, but i disagree, i say he first glimpsed it before Freeza died:

When Second form Freeza impales Krillin through the stomach, seemingly killing him, Gohan goes into a berserk rage, exhibiting extraordinary power, even for him. His hair stands up, and turns yellow, because of the light blasts, however you cannot see his eye color, and can attribute the hair to wind, and energy glow. I, however think that this is a super saiyan transformation.
Wait, what? His hair didn't ever go blonde, in the manga (I don't really watch the anime so I can't say much about that) it is always black with a light fade to white when he shoots those ki blasts. There's not really any reason for him to think he became a SSJ there.

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Re: Did Gohan go False SSJ on Namek

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:58 am

Gohan's attack was yellow... that's it though.
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Re: Did Gohan go False SSJ on Namek

Post by Pantalones » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:44 am

I guess Gohan's rage boosts could've eventually lead to him unlocking Super Saiyan. Super Saiyan itself is basically a "rage boost," after all, at least on the first transformation when you have to be extremely angry to trigger it (...unless you're a half-Saiyan kid like Goten or Trunks who gets it without any trouble, anyway.) I don't think his outbursts on Namek were really supposed to be any more "Super Saiyan-y" than his previous ones, though. I guess if Gohan had fought at all during the Android saga he could've had a Super Saiyan-triggering rage boost at some point, but instead he pretty much goes directly from "the one Saiyan who can't transform and never fights" to "almost ready for SSj2, now let's send him to fight Cell!" so the situation doesn't really come up in the story.

By the way... "False Super Saiyan" is not a thing. At least, it's not a separate thing from regular Super Saiyan.

What people call "False Super Saiyan" is just the Lord Slug movie's version of Super Saiyan. In the movie, it is the Super Saiyan form; not a lesser form of it, not some sort of "pre-Super Saiyan," but just plain Super Saiyan. Outside of that movie it just doesn't exist, since the golden-haired transformation is what "Super Saiyan" is in everything other than that one movie.
The only reason it's different in appearance from the regular golden-haired form we now know as Super Saiyan is because they didn't know what to make Super Saiyan look like at the time (since the official version hadn't appeared yet.) Heck, it wasn't even completely clear that Super Saiyan was a transformation at all for a while, with Vegeta thinking that he's become a Super Saiyan or that Goku must be a Super Saiyan and so on... despite neither of them being any different aside from huge boosts in power over what they had before.

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Re: Did Gohan go False SSJ on Namek

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:53 am

Pantalones wrote:I guess Gohan's rage boosts could've eventually lead to him unlocking Super Saiyan. Super Saiyan itself is basically a "rage boost," after all, at least on the first transformation when you have to be extremely angry to trigger it (...unless you're a half-Saiyan kid like Goten or Trunks who gets it without any trouble, anyway.) I don't think his outbursts on Namek were really supposed to be any more "Super Saiyan-y" than his previous ones, though. I guess if Gohan had fought at all during the Android saga he could've had a Super Saiyan-triggering rage boost at some point, but instead he pretty much goes directly from "the one Saiyan who can't transform and never fights" to "almost ready for SSj2, now let's send him to fight Cell!" so the situation doesn't really come up in the story.

By the way... "False Super Saiyan" is not a thing. At least, it's not a separate thing from regular Super Saiyan.

What people call "False Super Saiyan" is just the Lord Slug movie's version of Super Saiyan. In the movie, it is the Super Saiyan form; not a lesser form of it, not some sort of "pre-Super Saiyan," but just plain Super Saiyan. Outside of that movie it just doesn't exist, since the golden-haired transformation is what "Super Saiyan" is in everything other than that one movie.
The only reason it's different in appearance from the regular golden-haired form we now know as Super Saiyan is because they didn't know what to make Super Saiyan look like at the time (since the official version hadn't appeared yet.) Heck, it wasn't even completely clear that Super Saiyan was a transformation at all for a while, with Vegeta thinking that he's become a Super Saiyan or that Goku must be a Super Saiyan and so on... despite neither of them being any different aside from huge boosts in power over what they had before.
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