DBZ Budokai HD collection OST discussion

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DBZ Budokai HD collection OST discussion

Post by spaceballs » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:53 am

What are your thoughts on the changes to the music of Budokai 1 and 3?

Personally I do not like the changes to the music but thats just me :evil:

what do you fellow Budokai maniacs think?

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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:13 pm

Didn't really care. Some were well placed while some was badly placed. Hit and misses. Through since I can play music on the Ps3 even if it had the original music, I'll just play my own music. I did the same thing on Ps2 but with a speaker.

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Re: DBZ Budokai HD collection OST discussion

Post by Black_Liger » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:19 pm

Worst. REPLACEMENT. EVER!

No memorable tracks, generic melodies. badly placed. I'd never buy the HD collection >.<
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Re: DBZ Budokai HD collection OST discussion

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:26 pm

Black_Liger wrote:Worst. REPLACEMENT. EVER!

No memorable tracks, generic melodies. badly placed. I'd never buy the HD collection >.<
I would't say the worst. As they're is some replacements that fit. Just not as good as the old one.

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Re: DBZ Budokai HD collection OST discussion

Post by Black_Liger » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:44 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Black_Liger wrote:Worst. REPLACEMENT. EVER!

No memorable tracks, generic melodies. badly placed. I'd never buy the HD collection >.<
I would't say the worst. As they're is some replacements that fit. Just not as good as the old one.
It's still a downgrade :( I'm such a music nerd, It really makes me angry lol. That's why I won't ever buy, I couldn't sit through without raging in every scene XD
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Re: DBZ Budokai HD collection OST discussion

Post by Ajay » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:50 pm

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. Far too focused on the gameplay to care. Sure, it sucks if you want to invest yourself in the story mode and the particular moments but when you're just playing whatever in your free time, it's hardly a big deal. Most the time I turn down the music and just run some OSTs from the series instead.
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Re: DBZ Budokai HD collection OST discussion

Post by kei17 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:18 pm

From what I've seen on YouTube, it's not as bad as some people claim, but there are certain moments when music feels off in the story mode of Budokai 1.

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Post by spaceballs » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:08 pm

Thanks for the replies I was a bit ticked at this change because of my fondness for the game and the music (at least from budokai 3 never owned original budokai 1) was a great part of the game because it was similar to bruce faulconers tracks from the anime

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Post by Insertclevername » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:33 pm

For someone who grew up with both games and hates the Sparking Meteor!! score, it's not too hard to guess how I feel. But considering the circumstances surrounding Yamamoto, it's forgivable. I guess.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:06 am

I haven't played the actual Budokai HD Collection, just listened to it every now and then because there's so much variety on the soundtrack due to featuring from various games it'd be a shame not to, although for the HD Collection itself I'll just avoid it as I'm not interested on an inferior version than what I can get from playing on PS2/PCSX2.

The soundtracks were these ones:
  • Budokai Tenkaichi 2
  • Budokai Tenkaichi 3
  • Raging Blast 1
  • Tenkaichi Tag Team
  • Ultimate Tenkaichi
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Post by NitroEX » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:44 am

Besides no online It's the reason I never bought the HD collection. It's supposed to be a nostalgic collection yet having the replacement music kills that for me. I know I would be playing and constantly thinking "this doesn't sound right!" and that would just frustrate me.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:10 pm

NitroEX wrote:Besides no online It's the reason I never bought the HD collection. It's supposed to be a nostalgic collection yet having the replacement music kills that for me. I know I would be playing and constantly thinking "this doesn't sound right!" and that would just frustrate me.
You could load the music via a USB stick, HDD or media server but even then that wouldn't feel authentic because the tracks wouldn't be placed correctly, unless you'd choose each one every time.
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Re: DBZ Budokai HD collection OST discussion

Post by Weejus » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:34 pm

The HD collection is still fun to play, but the music is very unfitting, and for some bizarre reason, the PAL version still only has the Japanese voice track for Budokai 1. Why? Given that most DBZ games over the past several years have offered both Japanese and Funimation voice tracks, why make this very awkward and confusing step back? I'd still recommend the game to someone who's never played Budokai before, but it is still the laziest HD collection ever made (anything outside of battle is presented in 4:3 with a border either side), and a sign of what Dragon Ball games have become: a waste of time, a waste of effort and a waste of money. My suggestion to Namco Bandai would be to put the Dragon Ball game series on hiatus for a few years, like they did after Final Bout on the PS1 came out, but I suppose they would want to make some kind of Battle of Gods tie-in.

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Post by Jord » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:58 pm

Weejus wrote:The HD collection is still fun to play, but the music is very unfitting, and for some bizarre reason, the PAL version still only has the Japanese voice track for Budokai 1. Why? Given that most DBZ games over the past several years have offered both Japanese and Funimation voice tracks, why make this very awkward and confusing step back? I'd still recommend the game to someone who's never played Budokai before, but it is still the laziest HD collection ever made (anything outside of battle is presented in 4:3 with a border either side), and a sign of what Dragon Ball games have become: a waste of time, a waste of effort and a waste of money. My suggestion to Namco Bandai would be to put the Dragon Ball game series on hiatus for a few years, like they did after Final Bout on the PS1 came out, but I suppose they would want to make some kind of Battle of Gods tie-in.
Because the original also only had the Japanese track and implementing the English track would cost effort.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:59 pm

Jord wrote:
Weejus wrote:The HD collection is still fun to play, but the music is very unfitting, and for some bizarre reason, the PAL version still only has the Japanese voice track for Budokai 1. Why? Given that most DBZ games over the past several years have offered both Japanese and Funimation voice tracks, why make this very awkward and confusing step back? I'd still recommend the game to someone who's never played Budokai before, but it is still the laziest HD collection ever made (anything outside of battle is presented in 4:3 with a border either side), and a sign of what Dragon Ball games have become: a waste of time, a waste of effort and a waste of money. My suggestion to Namco Bandai would be to put the Dragon Ball game series on hiatus for a few years, like they did after Final Bout on the PS1 came out, but I suppose they would want to make some kind of Battle of Gods tie-in.
Because the original also only had the Japanese track and implementing the English track would cost effort.
Could't they just use the American version.

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Post by Thanos » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:09 pm

NitroEX wrote:Besides no online It's the reason I never bought the HD collection. It's supposed to be a nostalgic collection yet having the replacement music kills that for me. I know I would be playing and constantly thinking "this doesn't sound right!" and that would just frustrate me.
I'm going to have to agree. I'm a very musically inclined person, so that would trample over my childhood. I have some very fond memories surrounding those soundtracks (which occupy an irreplaceable space on my iPod to this day). To me, it is part of the fabric of the Budokai games. The fact that the HD Collection does not feature the original soundtrack is honestly the only thing keeping me from buying it. It was so much a part of the experience for me, and I have no desire to hear the generic guitar-heavy tracks that have dominated the DBZ game landscape since Raging Blast in my Budokai games, thank you very much. :P

I'm sure I'll pick it up once the price goes down (I'm talking below $20). If I'm going to pay $35 for two decade-old games that have obsolete graphics with no new content, I'm going to want everything that made the game for me.
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Re: DBZ Budokai HD collection OST discussion

Post by Weejus » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:58 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Jord wrote:
Weejus wrote:The HD collection is still fun to play, but the music is very unfitting, and for some bizarre reason, the PAL version still only has the Japanese voice track for Budokai 1. Why? Given that most DBZ games over the past several years have offered both Japanese and Funimation voice tracks, why make this very awkward and confusing step back? I'd still recommend the game to someone who's never played Budokai before, but it is still the laziest HD collection ever made (anything outside of battle is presented in 4:3 with a border either side), and a sign of what Dragon Ball games have become: a waste of time, a waste of effort and a waste of money. My suggestion to Namco Bandai would be to put the Dragon Ball game series on hiatus for a few years, like they did after Final Bout on the PS1 came out, but I suppose they would want to make some kind of Battle of Gods tie-in.
Because the original also only had the Japanese track and implementing the English track would cost effort.
Couldn't they just use the American version?
That's exactly what I was thinking, considering the Funimation voice track used in the NTSC version exists, but as Jord said, that would require effort. What makes the PAL version worse is the fact that the subs used are still on par with crappy fansubs, and this came from an official product! Spelling and grammar errors galore, weird phrases (Vegeta says 'Oh, you Aunt Sallies!' after Future Trunks is killed), and in some cases, they didn't even change the font to an HD font. THE GODDAMN FONT FROM 2002 WAS LEFT UNCHANGED AT TIMES! Even worse, this means it's constantly changing between the new font and the old one, making the old one even more of an eyesore. Are you actually trying to SELL the game, Namco Bandai, or are you trying to put people off buying it?

And another thing, recently I've been playing through Budokai 2 again, and I've realised THERE WAS NO EXCUSE FOR IT TO BE LEFT OUT! It's not a bad game, and it is not such a blemish on the Dragon Ball game franchise for it to be swept under the rug like this! Granted, Budokai 2 is by no means a great game, but it's still good, and I'd STILL recommend it. Games like Dragon Ball Z for Kinect are the ones that deserve to be forgotten! It's like the AVGN once said, 'why bury the gem and dig up the turd?'.

Whatever, rant over. I'm glad this game only cost me £20.

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Re: DBZ Budokai HD collection OST discussion

Post by MalikArcanum » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:52 pm

Don't like it, miss the Yamamoto tracks.

I mean, yes, some of his stuff was plagiarized, but did they have to nerf everything he ever did?

Also, I have no idea why they didn't just replace it with the Kikuchi score. Would've made a lot of the fans beyond happy.

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