Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

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Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:20 pm

Question is in the title.
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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by Insertclevername » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:38 pm

Maybe Ginyu was fine with his position and didn't really want to be ruler of the universe. I also can't seem to remember any instances where Ginyu was afraid Freeza was going to kill him or anything. Besides, it'd be incredibly risky. If he fucks up, he's done for.
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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by FoolsGil » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:40 pm

Because Toryama didn't plan things out? There's no way a Body Snatcher would be submissive to anyone, and sounds like a more interesting baddie, but whatever

I guess in story, Ginyu never had aspirations to rule, or figured being Freeza can be more trouble than its worth, especially if Freeza's family finds out. Finally, Freeza is just too fast to be caught by that attack since he already knows about it.

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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:43 pm

FoolsGil wrote:Because Toryama didn't plan things out? There's no way a Body Snatcher would be submissive to anyone, and sounds like a more interesting baddie, but whatever

I guess in story, Ginyu never had aspirations to rule, or figured being Freeza can be more trouble than its worth, especially if Freeza's family finds out. Finally, Freeza is just too fast to be caught by that attack since he already knows about it.
Where is it said that Freeza knows about the attack?
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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by mAcChaos » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:50 pm

1) Freeza would probably dodge it easy.

2) He was too loyal. Look at him.

He also seemed to think of himself as a professional. Attacking your client is not exactly professional.
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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by hleV » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:57 pm

Perhaps Ginyu only switches bodies when he needs to.

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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by FoolsGil » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:57 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:Because Toryama didn't plan things out? There's no way a Body Snatcher would be submissive to anyone, and sounds like a more interesting baddie, but whatever

I guess in story, Ginyu never had aspirations to rule, or figured being Freeza can be more trouble than its worth, especially if Freeza's family finds out. Finally, Freeza is just too fast to be caught by that attack since he already knows about it.
Where is it said that Freeza knows about the attack?
Where is it said he doesn't?

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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:32 pm

He's too loyal to do such a thing, obviously.
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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:41 pm

I always assumed Freeza was too powerful for it to be effective.

Aside from that, Ginyu really seemed to admire Freeza, so it's possible that he just preferred to work with him rather than defy him.
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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:55 pm

Three reasons:

1. Freeza is insanely fast, and wouldn't just stand still while Ginyu screams like an idiot.

2. Ginyu is actually genuinely loyal to Freeza.

3. Even if Ginyu possesses Freeza, that doesn't mean he'll be able to transform or anything. Given that Freeza is always surrounded by soldiers, there's practically no time he can do this where everyone won't see him. King Cold will proceed to murder the crap out of him.
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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:16 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Three reasons:

1. Freeza is insanely fast, and wouldn't just stand still while Ginyu screams like an idiot.
It's not like it takes Ginyu a long time to do the move. It looked like it took mere seconds in the manga. And there have been times where Frieza was alone with Ginyu.
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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by Tyro » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:32 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Three reasons:

1. Freeza is insanely fast, and wouldn't just stand still while Ginyu screams like an idiot.
It's not like it takes Ginyu a long time to do the move. It looked like it took mere seconds in the manga. And there have been times where Freeza was alone with Ginyu.
That and he might not actually have to say "change" to initiate the technique. That was just something added on the anime's part.

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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:45 pm

Freeza COULD(not saying he do) know about the attack.
He's to loyal to Freeza to do so. He respects him
He doesn't want to rule the universe and is fine in his place.

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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by Zephyr » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:15 pm

Maybe he already has and the roles we've seen in the series were reversed the entire time? :wink:

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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by Son Edo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:04 pm

I like the theory that Ginyu is extremely loyal to Freeza. He was pretty happy being 2nd strongest next to Freeza and went completely nuts when Goku surpassed him. So yeah, loyalty and happy with his current position.

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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by IDreamtIWasABee » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:12 pm

Ginyu didn't find Freeza pleasing to the eye. As the leader of a bunch of cheerleaders, it's plausible that he was image-obsessed; his vanity simply wouldn't let him take Freeza's body unless his life was in danger.

Had he seen Freeza's final form, he might have changed his mind, but between his purple body and Goku's, Ginyu seems to prefer a bulkier look.

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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by heatherp » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:16 pm

If Ginyu couldn't handle, and get the full power out of Goku's body, what makes you think he could handle Freezas? Maybe he simply knew he couldn't so he never tried. Goku didn't have insane power yet so maybe he thought eh I could use him, but he knew Freeza is the strongest in the universe so he couldn't.

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Re: Why did Ginyu never steal Freeza's body?

Post by DBZ Mick » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:17 am

I figured he was too loyal to Freeza to try.

Better question- What would happen if Ginyu stole Gotenks body?
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