Thoughts on Dragonball Evolution

[Dr. Machismo]

Pretty much everyone knew it was going to suck lol

[ABED]

Poor James Marsters.

[TheGmGoken]

Ignoring that Dragonball in the name.

The movie was a bad example of Shy kid liking a popular girl and knows how to fight in Martial Arts ways. Little to no character development for NO ONE not even Gouku Sno(Bootleg Son Goku). Bulama and Yauncha barely got any important moments. King Piccolo Flute was a terrible bad guy. Muten Rashi was bad. The plot seemed rushed and not expanding any screens. That monkey form looked disgusting and the effects look like it was done on a basic program called Windows Movie Maker. The outfits look like a parody of Asian style. The music reminded me of cow shit. Have you heard a Cow shit before? It goes like MOOOUGHHHHHHHHH! Overall this movie makes high-school musical look like it was made by the same people who made the best movie of all time(GodFather).

[chaosyoshimage]

The worst of the Spider-Man movies.

[Chuquita]

DBE is an awful movie, but it's awfulness is part of what inspired Toriyama to involve himself so deeply in BOG which resulted in the adorable and slightly uncomfortable about that ssjg Goku, so while I don't like the LAM, it served a purpose in sparking the eventual creation of a new 2D animated DB movie that I feel I'm going to enjoy once it's released on blu-ray/dvd next month. :3

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Generic, stupid, cringe-worthy, but a lot of fun and somewhat entertaining.

It's enjoyable if you don't expect too much and you're there to laugh at it. Plus, episode 172 of the podcast...one of the greatest ever.

Also brought out the best in fandom. How often can all fans, no matter which country or area of fandom, collectively make fun of something without arguments?

[Son Edo]

The worst of the Spider-Man movies.

What an insult comparing it to them.

[TheGmGoken]

Also brought out the best in fandom. How often can all fans, no matter which country or area of fandom, collectively make fun of something without arguments?

Funny you mention that. I heard some people say DBE > DBGT. But that's once in a lifetime you'll see 4 people say that. It's on youtube so.... Guess you can say they were joking even though Zagon2 thinks DBE is more canon than the manga and is better than everything BUT DBGT.

[Jackal puFF]

DBE is an awful movie, but it's awfulness is part of what inspired Toriyama to involve himself so deeply in BOG which resulted in the adorable and slightly uncomfortable about that ssjg Goku, so while I don't like the LAM, it served a purpose in sparking the eventual creation of a new 2D animated DB movie that I feel I'm going to enjoy once it's released on blu-ray/dvd next month. :3

Truly DBE's only good purpose. It was kind of a martyr in a way..

Even though it was absurd. Made me wonder how absurd the sequel would have been.

[Gonstead]

DBE is an awful movie, but it's awfulness is part of what inspired Toriyama to involve himself so deeply in BOG which resulted in the adorable and slightly uncomfortable about that ssjg Goku, so while I don't like the LAM, it served a purpose in sparking the eventual creation of a new 2D animated DB movie that I feel I'm going to enjoy once it's released on blu-ray/dvd next month. :3

Truly DBE's only good purpose. It was kind of a martyr in a way..

Even though it was absurd. Made me wonder how absurd the sequel would have been.

There's a fanfic for that...

[DBZ Mick]

I was hoping it would be so bad it would be good ala Street Fighter but nope just terrible. Really bad continuity, horrible acting, horribly dull fights (what even happens during that fight with Piccolo's spawn at the volcano? It's so poorly filmed). I kinda liked the look of the film at times and Emmy Rossum but yeah.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

It wasn't actually that bad; just a really typical Hollywood action/adventure movie. It was like most Hollywood that come out these days, whatever genre they are -- while there's nothing impressively new or different, they're still a mildly pleasant way to pass 90 minutes. The only reason I still remember a lot of what happened is because it's Dragon Ball.

[Hellspawn28]

Yeah the movie sucks, but I seen much worst. I think the movie will likely fall into obscurity in the future and earn a cult flowing kinda like how the Super Mario Bros Movie was.

[ABED]

It wasn't actually that bad; just a really typical Hollywood action/adventure movie. It was like most Hollywood that come out these days, whatever genre they are -- while there's nothing impressively new or different, they're still a mildly pleasant way to pass 90 minutes. The only reason I still remember a lot of what happened is because it's Dragon Ball.

It was really bad, at the very least typical Hollywood action/adventure films have far better production values.

[DoomieDoomie911]

The movie failed for a number of reasons. For one thing, they had a pretty low budget. Also, I don't think the people working on the film were true Dragon Ball fans. To make a good live action Dragon Ball movie, it's going to take true fans working on the movie.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

It wasn't actually that bad; just a really typical Hollywood action/adventure movie. It was like most Hollywood that come out these days, whatever genre they are -- while there's nothing impressively new or different, they're still a mildly pleasant way to pass 90 minutes. The only reason I still remember a lot of what happened is because it's Dragon Ball.

It was really bad, at the very least typical Hollywood action/adventure films have far better production values.

Well, that's because they have bigger budgets. Evolution's budget turned out to be much less than the initial announcement. Obviously it's not going to look as good as Transformers, but I think it looks decent.

[ABED]

It wasn't actually that bad; just a really typical Hollywood action/adventure movie. It was like most Hollywood that come out these days, whatever genre they are -- while there's nothing impressively new or different, they're still a mildly pleasant way to pass 90 minutes. The only reason I still remember a lot of what happened is because it's Dragon Ball.

It was really bad, at the very least typical Hollywood action/adventure films have far better production values.

Well, that's because they have bigger budgets. Evolution's budget turned out to be much less than the initial announcement. Obviously it's not going to look as good as Transformers, but I think it looks decent.

It looked like it had a TV level budget.

[Wasted Wisher]

Dragonball Evolution is just horrible.

...

And yet to this day I am still tempted to make a fancomic sequel of it.
Just like I want to make a fancomic sequel of that terrible Street Fighter American cartoon.
Something about these bad shows/movies just brings a twisted creative spirit out of me....
One day, when I have free time, perhaps I shall...

[Gaffer Tape]

The movie failed for a number of reasons. For one thing, they had a pretty low budget. Also, I don't think the people working on the film were true Dragon Ball fans. To make a good live action Dragon Ball movie, it's going to take true fans working on the movie.

Ehhhh... that's a potentially dangerous rabbit hole to fall into. While creating a good product does require talented people who are both intimately familiar with and respectful of the source material, I wouldn't say it requires "fans." Bringing on "fans" is often a very terrible thing to do because they often lack objectivity not to mention the aforementioned talent. They're more interested in satiating their fan fantasies than they are in telling a good story.

That said, I have a hard time believing that any good live action Dragon Ball movie is possible, period.

[Ajay]

While creating a good product does require talented people who are both intimately familiar with and respectful of the source material, I wouldn't say it requires "fans."

You're right, you certainly don't need fandom on the same level we all possess to be able to make a DB film. What you do need, however, is someone with a suppressed ego and a good level of intellect to be able to adapt the material in a way that is both respectful and faithful to the manga/show but also viable in a live action space.