Was Vegetto removed due to low ratings?

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Was Vegetto removed due to low ratings?

Post by Gonstead » Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:28 am

As the title says.

Was he not received well by fans that the Manga's rating dropped to the point of having to get rid of him or did Toriyama possibly have second thoughts on getting rid of Goku and Vegeta for possibly forever?

And lets say for the sake of argument that Vegetto never defused. How would you feel knowing that Goku and Vegeta were never coming back, even with GT and future specials starring Vegetto?
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Re: Was Vegetto removed due to low ratings?

Post by SSJ3_Gogeta » Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:39 am

I think that Vegetto was never meant to stick around for good and was only conceived as a means of freeing the boys and Piccolo, then lead up to the events of Goku vs Kid Buu.

If Vegetto did stick around, they would probably have to make the enemies in GT much stronger as I feel SSJ3 Vegetto is stronger than SSJ4 GT Goku.

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Re: Was Vegetto removed due to low ratings?

Post by VegettoEX » Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:36 am

Vegetto's only around for, what, four chapters? OK, so he fuses at the end of 503, is around in full for 504-505, and then defuses inside Buu during 506.

Especially at the time of original publication back in 1995, that was hardly enough time to really get a substantial feel for how the fans were reacting to it/him. As with most other things, and especially during that story arc, it was likely just Toriyama doing whatever he felt like doing with an editor who was more lenient than the previous two for the series.
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Re: Was Vegetto removed due to low ratings?

Post by ABED » Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:41 am

VegettoEX wrote:Vegetto's only around for, what, four chapters? OK, so he fuses at the end of 503, is around in full for 504-505, and then defuses inside Buu during 506.

Especially at the time of original publication back in 1995, that was hardly enough time to really get a substantial feel for how the fans were reacting to it/him. As with most other things, and especially during that story arc, it was likely just Toriyama doing whatever he felt like doing with an editor who was more lenient than the previous two for the series.
How long did it take to get back sales numbers back then?
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Re: Was Vegetto removed due to low ratings?

Post by AgitoZ » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:04 am

ABED wrote:How long did it take to get back sales numbers back then?
That's not exactly how series are "judged" in Jump. Popularity is usually decided by votes from readers. The turn around nowadays is about two weeks, who knows what it is was back then.
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Re: Was Vegetto removed due to low ratings?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:06 am

Vegetto was just a plot device to get Gohan & Gotenks out of the picture, to bring Goku & Vegeta back, and to weaken Boo back to Goku's level.
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Re: Was Vegetto removed due to low ratings?

Post by 90sDBZ » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:12 am

I'm sure once Goku was brought back to life there was no doubt that he'd be the one to finish the job. Getting all the Goku fans excited by bringing him back but then having him "go away" for good would be like a slap in the face to them. I'd imagine that Vegito was very popular though. Probably not as popular as the long-running separate characters but still popular due to his badass personality that was a combination of both Goku and Vegeta.

Also having Vegito kill Buu would have been anti-climactic.

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Re: Was Vegetto removed due to low ratings?

Post by ABED » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:17 am

AgitoZ wrote:
ABED wrote:How long did it take to get back sales numbers back then?
That's not exactly how series are "judged" in Jump. Popularity is usually decided by votes from readers. The turn around nowadays is about two weeks, who knows what it is was back then.
Interesting, how did the votes work? Was there some sort of card the readers filled out and sent in?
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Re: Was Vegetto removed due to low ratings?

Post by AgitoZ » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:37 am

ABED wrote:Interesting, how did the votes work? Was there some sort of card the readers filled out and sent in?
Basically. Readers pick their, I believe, three favorite series and mail it in. There's a ranking on their table of contents page(excluding things like color pages and newer series).

Also I should add an addendum to my previous post. The "two weeks" time is usually how far ahead authors are in chapters. I've seen something like 8 weeks tossed out as how far back the rankings are but info is kinda scarce due to not being Japanese and there not being that much info in the first place (aside from things like comments from people in Jump and stuff like Bakuman).

Point being, there was not enough time for Vegetto to be rejected by Jump's readership.
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