Next-gen DBZ games & potential improvements

[budokaifanatic007]

In your honest opinion do you think the games will make a step forward(improvements) next gen or stay the same as they are now??

[KentalSSJ6]

Depends on how they are made and who makes them. At the rate they have been (Ultimate Tenkaichi, Kinect, BoZ), I certainly hope the license gets picked up by someone who knows what the fans want and do it right.

[budokaifanatic007]

Depends on how they are made and who makes them. At the rate they have been (Ultimate Tenkaichi, Kinect, BoZ), I certainly hope the license gets picked up by someone who knows what the fans want and do it right.

Yea i have a feeling NB doesn't really wanna make these games anymore.

[KentalSSJ6]

They are focused on Naruto right now as thats the next big anime/manga apparently. That or they realize they make more money off Naruto games and put more effort into them and less into DBZ games.

[budokaifanatic007]

They are focused on Naruto right now as thats the next big anime/manga apparently. That or they realize they make more money off Naruto games and put more effort into them and less into DBZ games.

Exactly. i REALLY hope the licence gets passed to another publisher ASAP. I just don't get that good feeling when i play these games anymore smh.

[KentalSSJ6]

They are focused on Naruto right now as thats the next big anime/manga apparently. That or they realize they make more money off Naruto games and put more effort into them and less into DBZ games.

Exactly. i REALLY hope the licence gets passed to another publisher ASAP. I just don't get that good feeling when i play these games anymore smh.

I just stick with Budokai 3, Raging Blast 1, and Ultimate Tenkaichi here and there. I didnt bother with the Budokai HD Collection due to the soundtrack and some censoring (Broly's Ultimate being one example). I may get it provided I get the Budokai 3 soundtrack so I can play it over the game with the custom soundtrack feature.

[budokaifanatic007]

They are focused on Naruto right now as thats the next big anime/manga apparently. That or they realize they make more money off Naruto games and put more effort into them and less into DBZ games.

Exactly. i REALLY hope the licence gets passed to another publisher ASAP. I just don't get that good feeling when i play these games anymore smh.

I just stick with Budokai 3, Raging Blast 1, and Ultimate Tenkaichi here and there. I didnt bother with the Budokai HD Collection due to the soundtrack and some censoring (Broly's Ultimate being one example). I may get it provided I get the Budokai 3 soundtrack so I can play it over the game with the custom soundtrack feature.

Yea the only games I play sometimes are Budokai 2 , Budokai 3 and infinite world.

[KentalSSJ6]

I used to play RB2 but the shiny models and galaxy mode caused its appeal to vanish pretty quick so I sold it. Not to mention 90% of my online matches consisted of fighting Super Gogeta or LSSJ3 Broly. Got real old real quick.

[budokaifanatic007]

I used to play RB2 but the shiny models and galaxy mode caused its appeal to vanish pretty quick so I sold it. Not to mention 90% of my online matches consisted of fighting Super Gogeta or LSSJ3 Broly. Got real old real quick.

Yea that game and burst limit got boring really fast for me.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

If they could just remaster Super DBZ and have online multiplayer I'd be happy.
We need more competitive fighters, everything released is just piss poor for a fighting game..

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

^Same. I'd be extremely happy with an online version of Super DBZ.

Other than that, I really hope there'll be a new developer for future DBZ games

[Silkman3003]

If they could just remaster Super DBZ and have online multiplayer I'd be happy.
We need more competitive fighters, everything released is just piss poor for a fighting game..

Anyway, with the way that Namco Bandai has been handling games? No. Unless they bring back dimps, and the system is similar to Infinite world or Shin budokai 2 but improved, or they bring back Spike for a Tenkaichi 4(with a fighting system similar to that of T series, but improved gameplay), or some other competent developer then I really don't see much hope. BoZ isn't looking too impressive now, unfortunately. Infact, none of the Z games of the PS3/360 era have interested me at all.

[sintzu]

I think we will keep getting the same unless a new publisher gets the rights to make them, which I hope happens but till then I'll keep playing Tenkaichi 3 which is 100% better than anything we got this gen or will get next.

[Super Sayian Prime]

If sales continue to falter, or stagnate and Namco Bandai is contractually forced to continue making games expect a lot of titles that look like they could've run on the PS2.

[KentalSSJ6]

I think NB sees Dragonball as a dying breed, at least in terms of sales. The fact that various specials and a movie of was made after 14 years and the SLEW of marketing and merchandising for it (Colonel Sanders in Goku's outfit) proves Dragonball is still very much alive and popular in Japan, but they make more profit off of other more current series. People still love DBZ games, go to nearly any DBZ game video on youtube and top comments are almost always about Tenkaichi HD Collection (though only 3 is the only one needed).

It may be a gamble, but if they actually did make a HD Tenkaichi 3 with online (and it could have online as the Wii version did), maybe the sales would be enough to warrant another new DBZ game with more effort put into it.

[Quebaz]

If they could just remaster Super DBZ and have online multiplayer I'd be happy.
We need more competitive fighters, everything released is just piss poor for a fighting game..

What? It's true. While the Budokai series have that deep zone, I still don't find it enough. Heck, the fact that the games can't get to make a perfect balance and mix of melee and specials still bothers me, until Shin Budokai, specials were like a diferent game in a game, and even then It was still awkard. (Worst offender is the Tenkaichi Series).
You either get very limited specials (in the PS2 era, you got 3-max) and when you get more, they are delayed as hell (Raging Blast 2 and dem slow startups.)

Also, until they get CB2 to make the graphic portion of the games, just stick to sprites, DBZ games are full of clones anyway.

[Silkman3003]

What? It's true. While the Budokai series have that deep zone, I still don't find it enough. Heck, the fact that the games can't get to make a perfect balance and mix of melee and specials still bothers me, until Shin Budokai, specials were like a diferent game in a game, and even then It was still awkard. (Worst offender is the Tenkaichi Series).
You either get very limited specials (in the PS2 era, you got 3-max) and when you get more, they are delayed as hell (Raging Blast 2 and dem slow startups.)

Oh, okay got it. So they have a "deep zone", but the limited amount of specials is the reason why it's a piss poor fighting game . That makes perfect undeniable sense.

I always thought a piss poor fighting game was a game that had terrible balance in gameplay(like broken elements), little to virtually no depth, and little to no type of strategy at all.

Of course, as a guy whose more familiar with Guilty Gear(I don't play it in tournaments, but played it enough to acknowledge it has far more depth compared to any budokai game)....you're still not convincing me why it's a piss poor fighting game? Budokai is a series that focuses more on cancels and punishing people who spam moves or teleport counters, along with having fast placed gameplay and appealing to Z fans. It certainly doesn't have the amount of depth compared to other traditional fighters, but so the fuck what? That doesn't make it a bad fighting game, it just means it doesn't have as much depth as other games, which is perfectly fine, because it doesn't need to. It's a different system all together from traditional fighters, and quite frankly it doesn't need that much except for some balance changes to the gameplay and character roster. And some other gameplay additions that dont make it stray too
far away from what it originally was.

This isn't even going into the fact that a good amount of anime fighting games don't really have as much specials as traditional fighters, anyway.

And specials were like a different game in a game? What does this even mean????

DBZ games are full of clones anyway.

So not only are the amount of specials it has the reason why it's a piss poor fighting game, but Shin Budokai AR and Infinite World are full of clones with characters that play the exact way with the same combos, cancel sets up, and ranges. You did say DBZ games after all, and those two are Z games..

Alternatively you could just be talking out of your ass( ) considering that Piccolo doesn't play anywhere near the same as Goku. Piccolo is a long ranged character who works best at...long range and can track oppenents from halfway across the screen. Not to mention he has one of the(if not THE) biggest priority attacks as his moves eat through regular combos, making him a broken character all together in SBAR. Trunks's cancel set ups are completely different from Piccolo's, and Trunks close ranged combos are some of the best. Likewise, Cell doesn't play anywhere close to them, and etc for the other characters. So when you make a statement like this, I do hope you've brought up examples up to the plate. I'm more than willing to go into more specifics on why they don't play the same.

Another alternate is that you'd be talking more about the tenkaichi series or RB series. In which case, I'd suggest you specifically mention those games instead of making a statement like "dbz games are full of clones" which would include iw and SBAR

[Rukura]

They just need two things:

To have Dimps make an all-new fighting game with lots of time to do it. While Dimps does their thing, Namco Bandai releases something that will land them a bigger budget for the Dimps' game:

Dragon Ball Z HD Collection: Super Dragon Ball Z + Infinite World + Sparking! Meteor/BT3. It gives all the Tenkaichi fans what they've been asking for since the Budokai HD Collection, it gives DBZ fans that would now be interested in a Street Fighter-style Dragon Ball game something new (to them) to get into, even more so if it had online play, and it gives the fans that have been asking for Budokai 4 what they want. Makes a profit for Namco AND holds everyone out until the new game comes out.

[budokaifanatic007]

They just need two things:

To have Dimps make an all-new fighting game with lots of time to do it. While Dimps does their thing, Namco Bandai releases something that will land them a bigger budget for the Dimps' game:

Dragon Ball Z HD Collection: Super Dragon Ball Z + Infinite World + Sparking! Meteor/BT3. It gives all the Tenkaichi fans what they've been asking for since the Budokai HD Collection, it gives DBZ fans that would now be interested in a Street Fighter-style Dragon Ball game something new (to them) to get into, even more so if it had online play, and it gives the fans that have been asking for Budokai 4 what they want. Makes a profit for Namco AND holds everyone out until the new game comes out.

You sir are a genius.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I'm started to get really disappointed these days, and I'm loosing hope. The best game for PS3 now would probably be...

Dragon Ball Z HD Collection: Super Dragon Ball Z + Infinite World + Sparking! Meteor/BT3. It gives all the Tenkaichi fans what they've been asking for since the Budokai HD Collection, it gives DBZ fans that would now be interested in a Street Fighter-style Dragon Ball game something new (to them) to get into, even more so if it had online play, and it gives the fans that have been asking for Budokai 4 what they want. Makes a profit for Namco AND holds everyone out until the new game comes out.

... THIS! Seriously, Super DBZ, Infinite World, and Sparking! METEOR are the 3 best games in PS2 & the 3 best DB games in general (IMO). Releasing them in one pack would be delicious.