Could have Super Saiyan God Goku AND Vegeta beaten Birusu?
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Could have Super Saiyan God Goku AND Vegeta beaten Birusu?
Another thing that has been on my mind was this, we've seen Vegeta burst into power when he witnessed Bulma getting struck by Birusu thus bursting into his hidden power and causing "somewhat" damage to the god, something that Super Saiyan Stage 3 Goku could not do when he first encountered Birusu. Would the outcome of the battle between Super Saiyan God Goku and Birusu be different if Vegeta also became a Super Saiyan God thus parring with Goku? If Birusu had slight trouble with Super Saiyan God Goku, he surely would have a lot of shit on his hands if he had to deal with two SSJG's. But even if they did beat Birusu, would they deal with Whis? ....Super Saiyan God Gogeta? ... 
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If they fused, I don't see why not. Separately though, I highly doubt it. Beers was only using 70% of his power on Goku, I don't think someone of equal power to Goku could help him if Beers shot up to 80 or 90% of his power.
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Birusu did run out of stamina at the end of the film though prior to his battle with Goku, that makes me curious. But definitely if they fused, it would be no problem, but the time limit would crew both of them, both for SSJG and fusion.TheMightyOzaru wrote:If they fused, I don't see why not. Separately though, I highly doubt it. Beers was only using 70% of his power on Goku, I don't think someone of equal power to Goku could help him if Beers shot up to 80 or 90% of his power.
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Beers wasn't tired. He spared Earth because he liked Goku.KaioGojita wrote:Birusu did run out of stamina at the end of the film though prior to his battle with Goku, that makes me curious. But definitely if they fused, it would be no problem, but the time limit would crew both of them, both for SSJG and fusion.TheMightyOzaru wrote:If they fused, I don't see why not. Separately though, I highly doubt it. Beers was only using 70% of his power on Goku, I don't think someone of equal power to Goku could help him if Beers shot up to 80 or 90% of his power.
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Re: Could have Super Saiyan God Goku AND Vegeta beaten Birus
Oorrr it could be both? He even admitted that Goku was the second strongest person he ever met, fist being Whis.TheMightyOzaru wrote:Beers wasn't tired. He spared Earth because he liked Goku.KaioGojita wrote:Birusu did run out of stamina at the end of the film though prior to his battle with Goku, that makes me curious. But definitely if they fused, it would be no problem, but the time limit would crew both of them, both for SSJG and fusion.TheMightyOzaru wrote:If they fused, I don't see why not. Separately though, I highly doubt it. Beers was only using 70% of his power on Goku, I don't think someone of equal power to Goku could help him if Beers shot up to 80 or 90% of his power.
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Re: Could have Super Saiyan God Goku AND Vegeta beaten Birus
Goku barly managed to put up a fight, so i don't think that duo would do any better if Bills fights with 100%...
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Barely put up a fight? What fight have you been seeing? Must've been only the first match...because...Super Vegetto wrote:Goku barly managed to put up a fight, so i don't think that duo would do any better if Bills fights with 100%...
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If Goku and Vegeta fused into this, then I think Bills would be pretty screwed.


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Re: Could have Super Saiyan God Goku AND Vegeta beaten Birus
He wouldn't be tired if he only used 70% of his power, that's illogical.KaioGojita wrote:Oorrr it could be both? He even admitted that Goku was the second strongest person he ever met, fist being Whis.
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Without fusion I would think not. Bils didn't seem to be affected by Goku's Kamehameha at all so personally I think his 70% power was a decent bit above SSG Goku. Fused I would think they would no problem unless SSG is a set amount of power but they didn't mention anything like that.
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Goku didn't put up a fight until he turned SSJKaioGojita wrote:Barely put up a fight? What fight have you been seeing? Must've been only the first match...because...Super Vegetto wrote:Goku barly managed to put up a fight, so i don't think that duo would do any better if Bills fights with 100%...
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Cell was tired when he fought Goku. Cell wasn't at max power.TheMightyOzaru wrote:He wouldn't be tired if he only used 70% of his power, that's illogical.KaioGojita wrote:Oorrr it could be both? He even admitted that Goku was the second strongest person he ever met, fist being Whis.
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Nope they'd be screwed. I'm not even sure if a fusion could work. If SSJ3 drains the time to 5 minutes, imagine what the god form would do.
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Not really clear, considering its godly Ki. Fusion may last longer, may be shorter, or be the same, cant say for sure till it happens.dbzfan7 wrote:Nope they'd be screwed. I'm not even sure if a fusion could work. If SSJ3 drains the time to 5 minutes, imagine what the god form would do.
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I'm not even sure if it's possible when SSJG already has a time limit.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Not really clear, considering its godly Ki. Fusion may last longer, may be shorter, or be the same, cant say for sure till it happens.dbzfan7 wrote:Nope they'd be screwed. I'm not even sure if a fusion could work. If SSJ3 drains the time to 5 minutes, imagine what the god form would do.
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This is why I would have preferred they made Bills just a little stronger than Mystic Gohan instead of Vegito. That way we could have gotten SSJ3 Vegeta and possible SSJ3 Gogeta instead of this SSJG stuff.dbzfan7 wrote:I'm not even sure if it's possible when SSJG already has a time limit.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Not really clear, considering its godly Ki. Fusion may last longer, may be shorter, or be the same, cant say for sure till it happens.dbzfan7 wrote:Nope they'd be screwed. I'm not even sure if a fusion could work. If SSJ3 drains the time to 5 minutes, imagine what the god form would do.
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If he powered up, he wouldn't be too tired to take care of Gohan.TheGmGoken wrote:Goku didn't put up a fight until he turned SSJKaioGojita wrote:Barely put up a fight? What fight have you been seeing? Must've been only the first match...because...Super Vegetto wrote:Goku barly managed to put up a fight, so i don't think that duo would do any better if Bills fights with 100%...
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Cell was tired when he fought Goku. Cell wasn't at max power.TheMightyOzaru wrote:He wouldn't be tired if he only used 70% of his power, that's illogical.KaioGojita wrote:Oorrr it could be both? He even admitted that Goku was the second strongest person he ever met, fist being Whis.
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The senzu bean Goku gave him didnt exactly help either...
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Re: Could have Super Saiyan God Goku AND Vegeta beaten Birus
KaioGojita wrote:Barely put up a fight? What fight have you been seeing? Must've been only the first match...because...Super Vegetto wrote:Goku barly managed to put up a fight, so i don't think that duo would do any better if Bills fights with 100%...
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I know what fight i watched. Goku was loosing the whole fight. He simply wasn't match for Bills. Bills even stated that he didn't used 100% in fight.
He would demolish Goku if he used full power from start. Btw i wouldn't be suprised that new movie shows Bills fighthing with 100% and still holding his own, until he gets beaten by Goku or Vegeta.
That is if new movie ever comes...
Re: Could have Super Saiyan God Goku AND Vegeta beaten Birus
Birus even says Goku wasn't much of an opponent and that maybe he and Vegeta would one day be formidable.
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They would cause him some trouble together, but they would eventually lose. God Gogeta would crush Beers though, since we know that there is a less than x2 difference between God Goku & Beers, and there is a greater than x2 difference between Goku & Gogeta.
Super Saiyan God doesn't have such an issue though. It lasts for around 7 minutes, but it doesn't seem to drain the power once you revert (at least if you manage to absorb its realm), though maybe it does drain the power once it runs out for good (did Goku became exhausted because of that after he absorbed/nullified/whatever Beers' ki blast?). So, if God Gogeta could manage to absorb the realm, he will would stay for at most 30 minutes, maybe except if he was to transform for a second time into Super Saiyan God, which would cut all of his remaining time.
Super Saiyan 3 drains the time of the Fusion because that's how SS3 works. It lasts only 5 minutes if you are alive, and after 5 minutes, it drains everything (even time from Fusion or time in the Living World for the dead guys) to the point that even those who have mastered Super Saiyan (meaning that the ki drain is extremely minimal) can't transform.dbzfan7 wrote:If SSJ3 drains the time to 5 minutes, imagine what the god form would do.
Super Saiyan God doesn't have such an issue though. It lasts for around 7 minutes, but it doesn't seem to drain the power once you revert (at least if you manage to absorb its realm), though maybe it does drain the power once it runs out for good (did Goku became exhausted because of that after he absorbed/nullified/whatever Beers' ki blast?). So, if God Gogeta could manage to absorb the realm, he will would stay for at most 30 minutes, maybe except if he was to transform for a second time into Super Saiyan God, which would cut all of his remaining time.
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