One more person, and Bebi Vegeta would attain SSJG?

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One more person, and Bebi Vegeta would attain SSJG?

Post by Dark Red Z » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:27 am

Five saiyans enable a sixth one to become SSJ God.

Four saiyans enabled Bebi Vegeta to turn to his final humanoid form.

One more would give him Godhood?
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Post by Super Vegetto » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:01 am

Dark Red Z wrote:Five saiyans enable a sixth one to become SSJ God.

Four saiyans enabled Bebi Vegeta to turn to his final humanoid form.

One more would give him Godhood?
They nead to have pure heart, and Baby 100% isn't.
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Post by Rocketman » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:58 pm

Super Vegetto wrote:They nead to have pure heart, and Baby 100% isn't.
Vegeta is, and it's Vegeta's body that transforms.
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Post by Super Vegetto » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:01 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Super Vegetto wrote:They nead to have pure heart, and Baby 100% isn't.
Vegeta is, and it's Vegeta's body that transforms.
But Baby controls him. He probably wouldn't even be able to use that power, because he is using it and not Vegeta.

It's pretty obvious that body doesn't matter like with Pan...
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Post by Rocketman » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:07 pm

He was able to control the Great Ape transformation because he wasn't the one transforming.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:16 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Super Vegetto wrote:They nead to have pure heart, and Baby 100% isn't.
Vegeta is, and it's Vegeta's body that transforms.
Baby's mind is under control, and the Saiyans that gave him their energy were evil as well.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by Super Vegetto » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:17 pm

Rocketman wrote:He was able to control the Great Ape transformation because he wasn't the one transforming.
You don't nead to be at true state of mind/heart for Great Ape. It's already stated that he neads to be pure hearted, and because Baby is dominating it automaticly cancels Vegeta's purness...
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Post by Kid Buu » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:22 pm

Basically BoG just took a GT concept and made a few minor tweeks. :lol:
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Post by Rocketman » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:34 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Basically BoG just took a GT concept and made a few minor tweeks. :lol:
I believe you mean a few minor twerks.


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Post by Marco Polo » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:37 pm

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:22 pm

Bebi is pure evil, so it would never work on him. Also I don't think BOG happens in GT given that Gohan can turn mystic in the movie while he never did in GT.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:28 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Also I don't think BOG happens in GT given that Gohan can turn mystic in the movie while he never did in GT.
BoG happened in the GT continuity, according to Chozenshuu 4 timeline.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:23 pm

Wasn't everyone evil at that point?
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Post by Kid Buu » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:41 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Also I don't think BOG happens in GT given that Gohan can turn mystic in the movie while he never did in GT.
BoG happened in the GT continuity, according to Chozenshuu 4 timeline.
So Pilaf went from Chibi to old man just like that?
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:48 pm

Well they never mention BOG again in GT. If they never mention it again then it never happen. Same goes with the past DBZ movies. Dead Zone happen in the anime since the Garlic Jr saga makes references to it. The Garlic Jr. saga happen in the anime since Kulilin's GF has appear in several episodes and the same Sacred Water was used again in GT.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:02 pm

No, Bebi's impure presence as well as the evil state of the Saiyans transferring their energy to Bebi wouldn't do jack.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:35 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Well they never mention BOG again in GT. If they never mention it again then it never happen. Same goes with the past DBZ movies. Dead Zone happen in the anime since the Garlic Jr saga makes references to it. The Garlic Jr. saga happen in the anime since Kulilin's GF has appear in several episodes and the same Sacred Water was used again in GT.
GT was made long before BoG was even thought of
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:14 am

Not possible when everyone is evil while doing it.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:37 am

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Also I don't think BOG happens in GT given that Gohan can turn mystic in the movie while he never did in GT.
BoG happened in the GT continuity, according to Chozenshuu 4 timeline.
So Pilaf went from Chibi to old man just like that?
It's 10 years later, who says they didn't collect the Dragon Balls to get older, only to get too old?
Hellspawn28 wrote:Well they never mention BOG again in GT. If they never mention it again then it never happen. Same goes with the past DBZ movies. Dead Zone happen in the anime since the Garlic Jr saga makes references to it. The Garlic Jr. saga happen in the anime since Kulilin's GF has appear in several episodes and the same Sacred Water was used again in GT.
That's your opinion. According to the official timeline, Dragon Ball (including filler), Dragon Ball Z (including filler, Movie 1, Movie 5, JSAT, EoB, BoG, and the 2 TV Specials), and Dragon Ball GT (including the TV Special), all take place in the same continuity.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by Blade » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:03 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Well they never mention BOG again in GT. If they never mention it again then it never happen.
If we're going on 'it can't work with the timeline if it's not mentioned it in GT' then that means a heck of a lot of narrative events will be discounted.

Battle of Gods is, I believe, deliberately evasive of GT, in that it does nothing to necessarily contradict whilst at the same time does nothing to embrace it. The fact that the Pilaf Gang appear as children is clearly a direct reference to GT, but it's an in-joke as opposed to a direct rebuttal.
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