General Consensus About Cell

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General Consensus About Cell

Post by Kakashi » Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:24 pm

What is the general consensul about Cell's power, charaacter and shape? Is he a good character and liked by people here? He is my favorite 8)
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Re: General Consensul About Cell

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:01 pm

Cell used to be my favorite, but he was recently trumped by Freeza IMO. Beers is best overall though IMO. In terms of his design, he's, again, on of by not my all time favorite design. I think he's stronger than Movie 8 Broly in his Perfect Form, and I think he's barely stronger than Movie 10 Broly in his Super Perfect Form.
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Re: General Consensul About Cell

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:18 pm

Imperfect Cell = awesome

Perfect Cell = shit
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Re: General Consensul About Cell

Post by B » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:55 pm

Cell is cool. The juxtaposition of his regal looks and his monster mentality is interesting. On paper, Freeza's a superior character, if only because his goals and desires stem from him as a person, while Cell is basically following orders(orders he gets a personal pleasure out of and enjoys carrying out, nonetheless). Cell is essentially a more menacing, mean-spirited version of Goku; completely dedicated to his craft, albeit to the harm of others. He never faced anyone powerful enough(that wasn't out to kill him) to see if that attitude could be changed and that ambition realigned, sadly. He was created to strive for perfection, but could he be reasoned with? Completely served his role as a villain.

Did I mention Cell was cool? He's got this green camouflage motif going on, and it's pleasing with all the black.
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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:42 pm

Yeah Cell being an evil Goku is an interesting parallel. That's one thing I like about him.
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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:50 pm

Imperfect Cell and Semi Perfect Cell = AWESOME!


Perfect Cell = Boring.


Power. Should be stronger than everyone upto that point but weaker than Boo Arc Major villains


His design. Boring IMO. Until he got Perfect.

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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:06 pm

What you talkin' about. Imperfect Cell's design was great!
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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:07 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:What you talkin' about. Imperfect Cell's design was great!
Look like a stick figure colored Green(Not saying I can do better) with an orange mouth.

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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:13 pm

Nuh uh. He looks badass:
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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:16 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Nuh uh. He looks badass:
Who drew that?

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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:22 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Nuh uh. He looks badass:
Who drew that?
Not sure.
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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:24 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Nuh uh. He looks badass:
Who drew that?
Not sure.
Still looked like a stick figure with pointy head with a color of green

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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by Marco Polo » Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:22 pm

Imperfect Cell is gross.

Perfect Cell is one of Toriyama's most unique designs.

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Re: General Consensul About Cell

Post by JulieYBM » Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:38 pm

B wrote:Cell is cool. The juxtaposition of his regal looks and his monster mentality is interesting. On paper, Freeza's a superior character, if only because his goals and desires stem from him as a person, while Cell is basically following orders(orders he gets a personal pleasure out of and enjoys carrying out, nonetheless). Cell is essentially a more menacing, mean-spirited version of Goku; completely dedicated to his craft, albeit to the harm of others. He never faced anyone powerful enough(that wasn't out to kill him) to see if that attitude could be changed and that ambition realigned, sadly. He was created to strive for perfection, but could he be reasoned with? Completely served his role as a villain.

Did I mention Cell was cool? He's got this green camouflage motif going on, and it's pleasing with all the black.
I concur with this sentiment and offer due respect. Cell is to some degree a evil version of Gokuu and I wish that had been accentuated a little. Otherwise, there isn't much else to Cell's personality, save for Wakamoto Norio's performance of the character in Dragon Ball Z. Wakamoto took a simple character and elevated him to remarkability.
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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:13 am

He's not my favorite but the idea that he is made from the cells of all of the Z-senshi and their enemies is a pretty cool concept.
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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by Nazi Cola » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:58 am

Semi-Perfect Cell is my least favorite villain, at least from the manga, and that's including lesser henchmen like Piccolo's guys and Spopovich. What an ugly design and terrible personality; FUNimation didn't do him any favors with his constant crying and Vegeta-esque tantrums.

I enjoyed Perfect Cell, but Imperfect Cell was the coolest to me.
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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by Godo » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:24 am

A character being cunning and sneaky is a trait that draws me to him.
I really liked Imperfect Cell, as well as the same traits making be like Freeza arc Vegeta.
Semi-Perfect Cell would be awesome if he wasn't quickly reduced to a punching bag of Vegeta's, and I didn't get to like him a lot.
Perfect Cell was IMO not that interesting as he had already reached his goal and didn't have any more motives other than being...Nega-Goku.

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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by Leviathus » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:54 am

I also like Imperfect Cell more. Although he's a bit freaky (or gross, call it whatever you like) with those skinny arms and weird mouth, his design is just a little more interesting and something that Toriyama never did a lot (if I remember correctly). And in this form he's trying to achieve something - where in his perfect form he's like: "'kay achieved my goal- time to kick everyone else's butt!" (Like Godo said before me)

As for his semi-perfect form.... Weird, but still more interesting than his perfect form though (IMO) :D

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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by Vice » Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:59 pm

I'm usually on the fence as to whether I like Freeza or Cell more but I am a huge fan of the character.

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Re: General Consensus About Cell

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:03 pm

Imperfect Cell all day! Dude was cunning, sneaky, and always seemed to be ready for whatever. He knew when it was smart to stay out of the way, and he knew when it was time to fight. Don't care much for the other forms of Cell. I liked Super Perfect Cell, but he wasn't around long enough.
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