Who Animated Ultimate Battle 22?

DragonBalllKaiHD · Post by **DragonBalllKaiHD** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:24 pm

I'm really curious about who animated the intro of Ultimate Battle 22. Does anyone know? Thanks!

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:22 pm

Hell if I remember for sure, but I think it was Miyahara Naoki.

DragonBalllKaiHD · Post by **DragonBalllKaiHD** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:56 pm

Hm. I'm not familiar with this animator. Is there any work he had done related to Dragon Ball? I'd like to see some of his animation.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:01 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Hm. I'm not familiar with this animator. Is there any work he had done related to Dragon Ball? I'd like to see some of his animation.

Naoki Miyahara was Animation Supervisor for Dragon Ball Z episodes 159, 199, 280, and 289, and for Dragon Ball GT episodes 6 and 64. Naoki Miyahara was more often a key animator than an animation supervisor though. However due to the animator rotations used in Dragon Ball GT, the animators involved with the episodes Miyahara supervised constantly changed. He has worked as a key animator on the movies Dragon Ball Z: The World's Strongest, Dragon Ball Z: The Tree of Might, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan, Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming, Dragon Ball Z: Bio-Broly, Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn, and Dragon Ball Z: Wrath of the Dragon. He was Assistant Animation Director for Dragon Ball: The Path to Power, CG director for Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, and Animation Director for Go! Go! Ackman.

Outside of Dragonball he has done Ayakashi - Samurai Horror Tales, Digimon Adventure, Ojamajo Doremi #, One Piece: Django's Dance Carnival, RoboDz, Suite Precure, and Xenosaga: The Animation.

DragonBalllKaiHD · Post by **DragonBalllKaiHD** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:20 pm

Interesting. I just took a look at his animation in one of Kanzenshuu's guides. His works look a little bit different from Ultimate Battle 22. At first I thought it was Yamamuro's, but it looks like it's not. Maybe kei17 knows the answer?

kei17 · Post by **kei17** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:07 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Hell if I remember for sure, but I think it was Miyahara Naoki.

It's Kan'no and Shida actually.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:25 pm

kei17 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Hell if I remember for sure, but I think it was Miyahara Naoki.
It's Kan'no and Shida actually.

Well, there it is. I must have been confusing this instance with another. This is what you get got not double-checking, folks!

DragonBalllKaiHD · Post by **DragonBalllKaiHD** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:43 pm

kei17 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Hell if I remember for sure, but I think it was Miyahara Naoki.
It's Kan'no and Shida actually.

Didn't Kan'no work under Yukio Ebisawa? Those episodes are horrendous to watch and I'm surprised to hear he animated Ultimate Battle 22, seeing that the animation in it is georgeous.

Didn't Shida work for Toei during DBZ's run in 90's? I don't see his name in the Animation guide.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:56 pm

Shida Naotoshi acted as a key animator for plenty of Dragon Ball Z episodes. To this day Shida seems to have acted as an Animation Supervisor (sakuga kantoku) only for two of the Digimon Tamers films, thus he is not in the Kanzenshuu Animation Styles Guide. Shida does act as the occasional storyboarder for One Piece, though. Shida storyboarded the second half of Toriko x One Piece x Dragon Ball Z, One Piece episode #590 and provided the episode's best key animation.

Kan'no Toshiyuki was a key animator for Studio Live. If you watch a Studio Live episode during the Cell and Majin Boo episodes you will notice his work best because he draws very detailed characters. Ebisawa Yukio did not alter Kan'no's drawings because he respected Kan'no's work. For the three Studio Live episodes of Dragon Ball GT Kan'no acted as the animation supervisor in Ebisawa's place. Quite a few of the Dragon Ball movies outsourced to freelance animators and studios like Studio Live and Last House, so it is no surprise that Kan'no had a relationship with Toei Animation. I assume Kan'no was brought on to help Shida or vice-versa.

DragonBoxZTheMovies · Post by **DragonBoxZTheMovies** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:58 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Hm. I'm not familiar with this animator. Is there any work he had done related to Dragon Ball? I'd like to see some of his animation.
Naoki Miyahara was Animation Supervisor for Dragon Ball Z episodes 159, 199, 280, and 289, and for Dragon Ball GT episodes 6 and 64. Naoki Miyahara was more often a key animator than an animation supervisor though. However due to the animator rotations used in Dragon Ball GT, the animators involved with the episodes Miyahara supervised constantly changed. He has worked as a key animator on the movies Dragon Ball Z: The World's Strongest, Dragon Ball Z: The Tree of Might, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan, Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming, Dragon Ball Z: Bio-Broly, Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn, and Dragon Ball Z: Wrath of the Dragon. He was Assistant Animation Director for Dragon Ball: The Path to Power, CG director for Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, and Animation Director for Go! Go! Ackman.

Outside of Dragonball he has done Ayakashi - Samurai Horror Tales, Digimon Adventure, Ojamajo Doremi #, One Piece: Django's Dance Carnival, RoboDz, Suite Precure, and Xenosaga: The Animation.

Dude....DB Wikia?
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Naoki_Miyahara

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/animation-styles/miyahara/

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:04 am

kei17 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Hell if I remember for sure, but I think it was Miyahara Naoki.
It's Kan'no.

I thought I recognized Kan'no's work in there.

kei17 · Post by **kei17** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:42 pm

You can easily recognize Kan'no's drawings by square jaws.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:56 pm

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Hm. I'm not familiar with this animator. Is there any work he had done related to Dragon Ball? I'd like to see some of his animation.
Naoki Miyahara was Animation Supervisor for Dragon Ball Z episodes 159, 199, 280, and 289, and for Dragon Ball GT episodes 6 and 64. Naoki Miyahara was more often a key animator than an animation supervisor though. However due to the animator rotations used in Dragon Ball GT, the animators involved with the episodes Miyahara supervised constantly changed. He has worked as a key animator on the movies Dragon Ball Z: The World's Strongest, Dragon Ball Z: The Tree of Might, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan, Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming, Dragon Ball Z: Bio-Broly, Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn, and Dragon Ball Z: Wrath of the Dragon. He was Assistant Animation Director for Dragon Ball: The Path to Power, CG director for Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, and Animation Director for Go! Go! Ackman.

Outside of Dragonball he has done Ayakashi - Samurai Horror Tales, Digimon Adventure, Ojamajo Doremi #, One Piece: Django's Dance Carnival, RoboDz, Suite Precure, and Xenosaga: The Animation.
Dude....DB Wikia?
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Naoki_Miyahara
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/animation-styles/miyahara/

Wasn't the wiki....

DragonBoxZTheMovies · Post by **DragonBoxZTheMovies** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:25 am

TheGmGoken wrote:Wasn't the wiki....

Are you sure? Where did you get it from? Because it didn't sound like something off Kanzenshuu, so DB Wikia was my first guess- what other site covers information like this and still uses FUNimation's titles for the film?

TheGmGoken wrote:Naoki Miyahara was Animation Supervisor for Dragon Ball Z episodes 159, 199, 280, and 289, and for Dragon Ball GT episodes 6 and 64. Naoki Miyahara was more often a key animator than an animation supervisor though. However due to the animator rotations used in Dragon Ball GT, the animators involved with the episodes Miyahara supervised constantly changed. He has worked as a key animator on the movies Dragon Ball Z: The World's Strongest, Dragon Ball Z: The Tree of Might, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan, Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming, Dragon Ball Z: Bio-Broly, Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn, and Dragon Ball Z: Wrath of the Dragon. He was Assistant Animation Director for Dragon Ball: The Path to Power, CG director for Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, and Animation Director for Go! Go! Ackman.

Outside of Dragonball he has done Ayakashi - Samurai Horror Tales, Digimon Adventure, Ojamajo Doremi #, One Piece: Django's Dance Carnival, RoboDz, Suite Precure, and Xenosaga: The Animation.

Naoki Miyahara joined the Dragon Ball Z staff in early 1990 as a key animator. He would go on to stay involved in the series up through the bitter end of Dragon Ball GT, even filling the role of animation supervisor for the final episode. Naoki Miyahara was Animation Supervisor for Dragon Ball Z episodes 159, 199, 280, and 289, and for Dragon Ball GT episodes 6 and 64. Naoki Miyahara was more often a key animator than an animation supervisor, and would often fill-in with other animation studios to provide assistance when needed though. When he did actually supervise an episode, all of the key animators involved were typically fellow animators from Toei Animation. However due to the animator rotations used in Dragon Ball GT, the animators involved with the episodes Miyahara supervised constantly changed.
He has worked as a key animator on the movies Dragon Ball Z: The World's Strongest, Dragon Ball Z: The Tree of Might, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan, Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming, Dragon Ball Z: Bio-Broly, Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn, and Dragon Ball Z: Wrath of the Dragon. He was Assistant Animation Director for Dragon Ball: The Path to Power, CG director for Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, and Animation Director for Go! Go! Ackman.

Outside of anime and movie adaptations of Akira Toriyama's series, Naoki Miyahara has worked on Dragon Ball he has done Ayakashi - Samurai Horror Tales, Digimon Adventure, Ojamajo Doremi #, One Piece: Django's Dance Carnival, RoboDz, Suite Precure, and Xenosaga: The Animation.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:01 pm

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Wasn't the wiki....
Are you sure? Where did you get it from? Because it didn't sound like something off Kanzenshuu, so DB Wikia was my first guess- what other site covers information like this and still uses FUNimation's titles for the film?
TheGmGoken wrote:Naoki Miyahara was Animation Supervisor for Dragon Ball Z episodes 159, 199, 280, and 289, and for Dragon Ball GT episodes 6 and 64. Naoki Miyahara was more often a key animator than an animation supervisor though. However due to the animator rotations used in Dragon Ball GT, the animators involved with the episodes Miyahara supervised constantly changed. He has worked as a key animator on the movies Dragon Ball Z: The World's Strongest, Dragon Ball Z: The Tree of Might, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan, Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming, Dragon Ball Z: Bio-Broly, Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn, and Dragon Ball Z: Wrath of the Dragon. He was Assistant Animation Director for Dragon Ball: The Path to Power, CG director for Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, and Animation Director for Go! Go! Ackman.

Outside of Dragonball he has done Ayakashi - Samurai Horror Tales, Digimon Adventure, Ojamajo Doremi #, One Piece: Django's Dance Carnival, RoboDz, Suite Precure, and Xenosaga: The Animation.

Lots of the wording are different. Besides Kanzenshuu isn't the only DB site. In fact I got it off of a forum with the source of something not db wiki. Why does it matter? Was something inaccurate?

Weejus · Post by **Weejus** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:50 pm

More importantly, who animated Ultimate Battle 22's in-game cutscenes? They really do suck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bBOkFXKOls

DragonBoxZTheMovies · Post by **DragonBoxZTheMovies** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:36 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Lots of the wording are different.

A lot of it seems very much the same to me. I showed that by putting a strike through the things that were omitted and putting in bold what few words were added.

TheGmGoken wrote:Besides Kanzenshuu isn't the only DB site.

It's the only (English) one you should be using.

In fact I got it off of a forum with the source of something not db wiki. Why does it matter? Was something inaccurate?

Nah, it doesn't matter. Was just making a joke about how fans should only use Kanzenshuu for (correct) information. Although, it'd probably be good if you cited your source if you're taking it from somewhere else- y'know, give them credit since they went through the "trouble" of writing it up.

I feel like I'm dragging things on a bit now, so I'll leave it there.

EDIT: Holy crap, I just saw another thread from a few months ago where you were accused of using DB Wikia, but you'd actually used another source. Yeah, might help to cite your sources in future.

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