Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the others?

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Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the others?

Post by Bullza » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:39 pm

I asked this question once before years ago on another website's forum and they all sorta agreed on once person in particular who it would be so I'm wondering if the same will be thought of here aswell.

Scenario: It's the Buu saga, Buu just became Super Buu but in his scenario cannot sense people's energy on Kami's lookout. All the Z Fighters and their family/friends are on the lookout. A Z Fighter has to go down to Earth for reasons that don't really matter and Super Buu finds him and threatens to kill him if he doesn't tell him where everyone is hiding and promises not to kill him if he confesses.

Which of the Z Fighters would be most likely to tell Buu, which he would know would probably cost all his friends lives to save his own neck.

There's no "Well they'd all die before they did that" answer either.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:42 pm

None of them would do such a thing.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by Bullza » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:44 pm

That's exactly why I said

"There's no "Well they'd all die before they did that" answer either."

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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:47 pm

That is the answer because there's no other answer. None of them would do such a thing.
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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by rereboy » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:50 pm

Yeah, they wouldn't. Also, being killed wouldn't be that much of a threat... They all know there's an afterlife and they know that they could even be brought back by the DBs.

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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by Bullza » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:54 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:That is the answer because there's no other answer. None of them would do such a thing.
Which is why it's an Hypothetical question.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:08 pm

Boo would't promise not to kill them. Soon as they say where the others are. Boo will kill that person. But if I have to choose...then no one. I'm sorry I understand this a hypothetical question. But the bond and trust between the Z fighters is WAAY to big for that. Not to mention they can be brought back or enjoy afterlife(Especially if Goku is there). Only reason they would "snitch" on the others would it be by accident. So if it's by accident then it'll either be

Goten
Trunks
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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by cesarcoronel07 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:23 pm

None of them would betray Goku

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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by dario03 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:41 pm

Yajirobe. You can't trust somebody that has a moustache like that.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:43 pm

dario03 wrote:Yajirobe. you can't trust somebody that has a moustache like that.
Damn it. What are people talking about Yajirobe facial hair? I never seen it. Does anyone have a snapshot of it. I can't even find it on google.

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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:46 pm

Kuririn.

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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by Strife1 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:47 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
dario03 wrote:Yajirobe. you can't trust somebody that has a moustache like that.
Damn it. What are people talking about Yajirobe facial hair? I never seen it. Does anyone have a snapshot of it. I can't even find it on google.
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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by Black_Liger » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:53 pm

not even Yamcha or Krillin would betray anyone from the z fighters. They might be weak to saiyan standards, but they have both died fighting for their friends. I think that's enough to say they would never betray their friends.

mr. satan on the other hand! XD
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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:03 am

Mr. Satan
Yajirobe
Oolong

I think that's it.
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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by FoolsGil » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:22 am

Under the power of mind control, we already know Vegeta is the likeliest since it happened in canon . Piccolo could also be susceptible though he wouldn't give in as Vegeta did to Babidi. Once you take out the darkest heroes, next comes the weak willed, Krillin and Yamcha are the least confident, and can likely be mind tortured into giving in and betraying the others. Tenshinhan and Future Trunks are too strong willed, the Son Family are too good and pure, and Chaozu is psychic, making them the least likely to betray.

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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:53 am

It's also not a matter of Buu making any such promises, it's just for the sake of the question. Mr Satan, Oolong and I'd even say Yajirobe aren't Z Fighters. For arguements sake I'm not even going to include yajirobe into this and he'd be the obvious choice.

The other forum had the idea that it would be Yamcha who'd most be likely to betray them.

Goku obviously wouldn't. Gohan obviously wouldn't. Piccolo has too much pride and cares for Gohan so wouldn't. Tien also has a lot of pride and cares for Chiaotzu so wouldn't. Vegeta has too much pride and also has a family he wouldn't just let die like that. Trunks and Goten maybe because they're kids but also have family. Android 18 has her family. Roshi would think he's had a good long life as it is and probably see's the others as family so wouldn't.

Which sorta leaves Yamcha who doesn't have any family or real close bonds in the same way except for Puar. So even though no he probably would choose to die instead of betray the others he'd be the one most likely to betray them out of anyone.

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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:02 am

Counting previous (and subjective) betrayals, they belong to Krillin and Vegeta regarding Cell.

Krillin smashing the shutdown device that allowed Cell to gain power from absorbing 18.

Vegeta purposely giving Cell the chance to absorb 18, essentially causing the death of hundreds if not thousands, Goku, and Future Trunks.
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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:18 am

Errr that's not really the same kind of thing. Vegeta didn't really betray anyone he just wanted to fight the best opponent he could, he just got cocky.

Krillin was love struck and had no idea it would turn out as badly as it was.

It's not really the kind of thing that I'm talking about where they'd be in a position where they'd straight up betray and knowingly cause the death of their friends just to save oneself.

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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by dario03 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:26 am

Bullza wrote:It's also not a matter of Buu making any such promises, it's just for the sake of the question. Mr Satan, Oolong and I'd even say Yajirobe aren't Z Fighters. For arguements sake I'm not even going to include yajirobe into this and he'd be the obvious choice.

The other forum had the idea that it would be Yamcha who'd most be likely to betray them.

Goku obviously wouldn't. Gohan obviously wouldn't. Piccolo has too much pride and cares for Gohan so wouldn't. Tenshinhan also has a lot of pride and cares for Chiaotzu so wouldn't. Vegeta has too much pride and also has a family he wouldn't just let die like that. Trunks and Goten maybe because they're kids but also have family. Android 18 has her family. Roshi would think he's had a good long life as it is and probably see's the others as family so wouldn't.

Which sorta leaves Yamcha who doesn't have any family or real close bonds in the same way except for Puar. So even though no he probably would choose to die instead of betray the others he'd be the one most likely to betray them out of anyone.
What!?!? Yajirobe not a Z fighter? Did you not see him single handedly take down Oozaru Vegeta? Without him Vegeta would of killed everybody and laughed about it long before Buu ever showed up. I figured Yamcha would of been the answer from the other forum but really what did he ever do in Z besides get roflstomped in anything that wasn't anime filler? So how is Yamcha a Z fighter but Yajirobe is not?

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Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:03 am

I'm just going to mentally substitute in "torture the shit out of them" for "kill them". Getting killed isn't that big of a deal at this point. That said, who's going to trust Super Buu anyway?

Your arbitrary restrictions make it quite hard to select an answer. But from what you gave, I'd say Yamcha.
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