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Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by Kakashi » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:11 pm

Napa says his power was 981. Was it his suppressed power or full power? If it was his suppressed power so what is his full power?

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Re: Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by Saiga » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:20 pm

Given that the others were suppressed, I think that he was as well. I am not sure if he got a Zenkai after the Saiyan arc battles, but if not, then I guess the power level around 1,500 he showed would be closer to his true power. Otherwise I'd have no idea.
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Re: Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by Strife1 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:22 pm

Yes, that was his resting level before battle. His masenko was 2,800 according to vegeta. The highest read power level for him during the saiyan saga

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Re: Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by Kakashi » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:52 pm

Strife1 wrote:Yes, that was his resting level before battle. His masenko was 2,800 according to vegeta. The highest read power level for him during the saiyan saga
That was his enraged power

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Post by Reading Rainbow » Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:00 pm

Kakashi wrote:Napa says his power was 981. Was it his suppressed power or full power? If it was his suppressed power so what is his full power?
When Nappa reads off the power levels of Gohan, Piccolo and Krillin they're all suppressing. As for his 2,800 reading - people argue whether it's his Masenko or power level.

I went off what happened in the manga, more specifically off what Vegeta said about how their power levels fluctuate wildly or something like that so I believe his power level is 2,800.

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Re: Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by Strife1 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:15 pm

Kakashi wrote:
Strife1 wrote:Yes, that was his resting level before battle. His masenko was 2,800 according to vegeta. The highest read power level for him during the saiyan saga
That was his enraged power
His enraged power is he full power at the time. Ssj2 Gohan is also his enraged power, but since he's angry that means his full power is less than that?

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:18 pm

Saiga wrote:Given that the others were suppressed, I think that he was as well. I am not sure if he got a Zenkai after the Saiyan arc battles, but if not, then I guess the power level around 1,500 he showed would be closer to his true power. Otherwise I'd have no idea.
Doesn't the Daiz list him at 981 right next to the full powers for Piccolo and the others?
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Re: Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by Kakashi » Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:29 pm

Strife1 wrote:
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Strife1 wrote:Yes, that was his resting level before battle. His masenko was 2,800 according to vegeta. The highest read power level for him during the saiyan saga
That was his enraged power
His enraged power is he full power at the time. Ssj2 Gohan is also his enraged power, but since he's angry that means his full power is less than that?
SSjin 2 is his unlocked rage while he was just enraged vs napa like Vegeta vs birus. His full power is his normal state and the 2,800 is his blast

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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:38 pm

His full-power was around 1,500 or slightly less than that.
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Re: Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by Strife1 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:06 pm

When Gohan was 981, Piccolo was 1220, and Krillin was 1083. The Saibamen were each 1200. And Vegeta literally said they could change their power levels, so throw away your scouter.
Gohan had basic Ki control down at that point, so he didn't use his full power at that moment. None of them did actually.

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Re: Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by Kakashi » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:53 pm

So full power Gohan is between 981 to 1,500? Gohan is weaker than Yamcha so I would say he is 1,300

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:02 pm

Kakashi wrote:So full power Gohan is between 981 to 1,500? Gohan is weaker than Yamcha so I would say he is 1,300
Maybe. I just go with the 1500 he showed on Namek. The "image training" that he did on the way there should't have raised his power, I think. And Gohan wasn't critically injured during the Saiyan fight, so he shouldn't have gotten any kind of zenkai.
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Re: Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by ZombieVito » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:05 pm

I see that as the same as meditating for Piccolo. It does raise Ki.

I have Gohan at 1,200 in the Saiyan arc.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:09 pm

Zombie wrote:I see that as the same as meditating for Piccolo. It does raise Ki.

I have Gohan at 1,200 in the Saiyan arc.
Possibly.
Personally, I like to think only Piccolo can do that though. Not really based off anything; I just like the idea of him having unique training methods. It helps explain the huge jumps in power he tends to make.

Anywhere from the 980ish-1500 range should be fine. I just go with the number given on Namek.
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Re: Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by Kakashi » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:13 pm

Gohan is stronger when he arrived on Namek. He is also weaker than Yamcha who was 1,480

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:16 pm

Kakashi wrote:Gohan is stronger when he arrived on Namek. He is also weaker than Yamcha who was 1,480
There is no evidence that he is stronger on Namek. It's possible, but nothing says so.

We also don't know that Gohan was weaker than Yamcha. He may have thought he was, but he also thought he was weaker than Goku at the Cell Games. Gohan tends to underestimate himself.

Again, I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm just saying that it's not set in stone.
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Re: Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by Kakashi » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:21 pm

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Kakashi wrote:Gohan is stronger when he arrived on Namek. He is also weaker than Yamcha who was 1,480
There is no evidence that he is stronger on Namek. It's possible, but nothing says so.

We also don't know that Gohan was weaker than Yamcha. He may have thought he was, but he also thought he was weaker than Goku at the Cell Games. Gohan tends to underestimate himself.

Again, I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm just saying that it's not set in stone.
Gohan being stronger as more plausible. Vegeta said as long as a Saiyans fight he gets stronger. Gohan is weaker than the humans

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Re: Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:36 pm

Kakashi wrote:
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Kakashi wrote:Gohan is stronger when he arrived on Namek. He is also weaker than Yamcha who was 1,480
There is no evidence that he is stronger on Namek. It's possible, but nothing says so.

We also don't know that Gohan was weaker than Yamcha. He may have thought he was, but he also thought he was weaker than Goku at the Cell Games. Gohan tends to underestimate himself.

Again, I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm just saying that it's not set in stone.
Gohan being stronger as more plausible. Vegeta said as long as a Saiyans fight he gets stronger. Gohan is weaker than the humans
Except no power up for Gohan is noted at any time between his Masenko and his potential being unlocked by Guru. I've already stated my opinions on the image training, and he wasn't beaten up enough to get a zenkai. So I don't see why his power would have increased.

I've also stated my views on him possibly being stronger or weaker than the Earthlings. The manga doesn't really indicate either way, and it's within Gohan's character at this point to underestimate himself, so I have him stronger than Yamcha.
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Re: Saiyan Saga Gohan

Post by Strife1 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:05 pm

You guys also have to take into consideration that gohans powered changes with his emotions. I'm sure, given the correct circumstances, that he could power up to levels much higher than the earthlings. Piccolo even stated that when he puts his mind to it, his gohans power surpasses his.

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